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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby freakns on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:33 pm

natty dread wrote:
freakns wrote:this is internet. ppl come here because they are bored, have no social life or they are too perverse to talk publicly about their sex life(or lack of it).


Which category are you in then?

Personally, I can talk about my sex life all day long. Yesterday I was having a wank and accidentally jizzed all over my face. Man I was glad no one was watching, it was so ridiculous.

all 3. and thats why im here.
and you just proved my point. youd be embarrassed by tasting your own sperm in rl, but you are quite comfortable saying it on internet
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Leehar on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:40 pm

natty dread wrote:
pmchugh wrote:It


I stopped reading at this point.

And then you have an issue with Lack supposedly doing the same thing?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:58 pm

freakns wrote:
natty dread wrote:
freakns wrote:this is internet. ppl come here because they are bored, have no social life or they are too perverse to talk publicly about their sex life(or lack of it).


Which category are you in then?

Personally, I can talk about my sex life all day long. Yesterday I was having a wank and accidentally jizzed all over my face. Man I was glad no one was watching, it was so ridiculous.

all 3. and thats why im here.
and you just proved my point. youd be embarrassed by tasting your own sperm in rl, but you are quite comfortable saying it on internet


Quite the contrary, I talk about tasting my own sperm in rl all the time.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:01 pm

Leehar wrote:And then


I nearly stopped reading at this point. Then I soldiered on and read one more word but that was enough, your post was just too much for me.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby IR1SH ACE on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:43 pm

natty dread wrote:Wasn't there once a facebook game or something that had something like 100 000 players?


it was that facebook risk game that brought my good friend Conchobar to this site and it was also from watching him play that facebook version that I first learned how to play risk..(I had seen the board game growing up but never knew how it was played)

then another uni friend downloaded "Risk Factions" from Xbox Arcade and after a night of beer & smoke and a few games I was hooked and promptly joined up to this site so I could play some more...now at this point I have to agree with ljex..

ljex wrote:The biggest problem cc faces is that people try to go online to try and play a real time game of risk and just happen to find conquer club. They then sign up and join their 4 games before realizing that these games are not real time at which point they leave and never come back. If cc could find a way to make users stay on the site and play a few more games we would see the community grow as a result.

There are plenty of ways that lack could provide this feature, but i think the easiest way would be to allow first time players to play a few speed games so that they get hooked. You could even make the speed games only be 1 vs 1 classic/6 man classic or stuff like that so people dont just keep making new accounts to get the free initial speed games. and if he is really worried about how this costs him money without immediate profit, he could even throw in short adds between rounds or something like that. I know there is a no advertising policy but i dont really think there would be a huge concern among users if advertising was used in conjunction with an effort to attract new users. Then once their allotted speed games are up if they have enjoyed playing $25 a year doesn't really seem like much even if you are only going to come back once in a while.


it sucked balls that I could not play a game from the moment I joined, if I remember correctly I joined four 4/5 player classic map games and got to take ONE move and that was it for the night, by the next day I could not take it anymore and paid for the premium but I already knew that I was going to stay around for a while...

So I agree there should be some kind of access to speed games for freemiums, maybe like ljex suggest a limited amount or maybe 1 out of the 4 games could be a speed game but CC needs to do something to get those members who join up on a whim to stick around and get hooked

if you look at the scoreboard from p48 - 54 you can see tons of NR's that have all joined up in the last 30 days and there is no surprise that the majority of them have joined 1-4 games and then never bothered to come back and play there turns...Im sure most of them found the site with the intention of playing some online risk and then found out they could not play a real time game and just lost interest

Iv list 8 pages from the scoreboard here...
Scoreboard p54
Scoreboard p53
Scoreboard p52
Scoreboard p51
Scoreboard p50
Scoreboard p49
Scoreboard p48
Scoreboard p47

thats 800 members with probably more than 60% (around 500) are NR's and I would imagine (I cant be bothered to check them all out) that more then 50% (250+) (I know Im just making these figures up now but if someone else wants to get the exact figures be my guest) of these NR's joined up to play some risk and once they realized that they would either have to pay to play RT or have to come back each day to take a turn decided not to bother....

now even if CC could get 10% of these guys to stick around and get hooked and pay, that would be ā‚¬625 extra in Lacks pocket....every month... :o :o

give them a taste of Real Time.....
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby army of nobunaga on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:48 pm

ahhh IR1SH ACE, now you are getting to the "Small convenience improvements" I mentioned in my post.

Never happens, never will happen. They work at trench warfare and expect that to grow the site and make us all happy , while doing a circle jerk admin congratz to themselves.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby OliverFA on Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:33 pm

army of nobunaga wrote:The way CC will continue to survive will not be to run off the old players and try to recruit new ones. It will be through continuing to improve and retain its loyal contingency while gaining new true risk players.


I agree, except that I would change "Risk" by "Strategy". Risk might be at the foundation of this game, but it has the potential to go way beyond Risk.

This statement also points the evidence. There is no single reason, but a group of them. The way to keep people is by allowing them to renew their experience from time to time and/or to find the setting that best fits them. New play modes and more XML are two of the important things to do that really will make a difference.

I also agree with Natty that all those past updates previous to Trench were the ice on the cake, but wihtout a cake they make not much sense.

And look what I found in the trench thread:

ask me2 wrote:At first I saw this and said "No way!", but I'm really loving it now, it's all new strategy and tactics. Thank you Lack for finally imputing something useful!


Which sort of backups the idea that previous updates were uninteresting.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby notyou2 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:02 pm

I run around 40 games at a time. I don't want to commit to more for fear I will miss turns or be a burden on my clanmates, so if I have completed my turns and have extra time, I read and post in the forums. It is a secondary form of entertainment on this site.

Some people find the forums more entertaining (or used to) than the gaming aspect. Unfortunately, the forums have deteriorated rapidly over the past few years, and I believe that is one of the major reasons people have left. Idi Admin has banned some of the funniest posters and the entertainment value fell off drastically. Many complained to no avail. Well, Idi Admin decided that perma-bans weren't the answer so changed the ban system penalties but refuses to allow the great posters back.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dako on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 am

notyou2 wrote:Some people find the forums more entertaining (or used to) than the gaming aspect. Unfortunately, the forums have deteriorated rapidly over the past few years, and I believe that is one of the major reasons people have left. Idi Admin has banned some of the funniest posters and the entertainment value fell off drastically. Many complained to no avail. Well, Idi Admin decided that perma-bans weren't the answer so changed the ban system penalties but refuses to allow the great posters back.

So true :(.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Leehar on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:05 am

notyou2 wrote:I run around 40 games at a time. I don't want to commit to more for fear I will miss turns or be a burden on my clanmates, so if I have completed my turns and have extra time, I read and post in the forums. It is a secondary form of entertainment on this site.

Some people find the forums more entertaining (or used to) than the gaming aspect. Unfortunately, the forums have deteriorated rapidly over the past few years, and I believe that is one of the major reasons people have left. Idi Admin has banned some of the funniest posters and the entertainment value fell off drastically. Many complained to no avail. Well, Idi Admin decided that perma-bans weren't the answer so changed the ban system penalties but refuses to allow the great posters back.

I can see what you mean. It sucks when people seemingly don't listen to your concerns

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natty dread wrote:I stopped reading again at this point.

natty dread wrote:I stopped reading at this point.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby natty dread on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:47 am

Leehar wrote:I can see what you mean. It sucks


I tried to continue reading at this point but the words just kept blending in with each other and I got all distracted so I went and made myself a nice cup of coffee. Then I forgot what I was supposed to do so I started playing minesweeper.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dako on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:09 am

You should have played Minecraft.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:01 pm

When the discussion turns into talking about natty's sperm you know it's hit rock bottom :lol: !
Some of you were saying you wanted (s)perma banned players back. Which ones are we talking about?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:58 pm

Gillipig wrote:When the discussion turns into talking about natty's sperm you know it's hit rock bottom :lol: !


I disagree. That's how you know it's a great thread.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:01 pm

notyou2 wrote:I run around 40 games at a time. I don't want to commit to more for fear I will miss turns or be a burden on my clanmates, so if I have completed my turns and have extra time, I read and post in the forums. It is a secondary form of entertainment on this site.

Some people find the forums more entertaining (or used to) than the gaming aspect. Unfortunately, the forums have deteriorated rapidly over the past few years, and I believe that is one of the major reasons people have left. Idi Admin has banned some of the funniest posters and the entertainment value fell off drastically. Many complained to no avail. Well, Idi Admin decided that perma-bans weren't the answer so changed the ban system penalties but refuses to allow the great posters back.


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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dako on Mon May 14, 2012 8:24 am

Dako wrote:
MrBenn wrote:
No of 'Results' on Scoreboard

Sep 05 2011: 17315
Sep 22 2011: 16637
Oct 24 2011: 16192
[Oct 24 2011: Conqueror Cup Promo Email Sent Out]
Oct 28 2011: 17000+
Nov 7 2011: 17458
Nov 10 2011: 17423
Nov 14 2011: 17423
Nov 25 2011: 17282
Nov 29 2011: 17055

Update:
Dec 14 2011: 16800

April 15 2012 - 15883

May 14 2012 - 15283
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby HighlanderAttack on Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 am

Andy's release of the largest risk tournament stated 20,000


I miss the good ole days--the comradely with a bunch of us, the true enjoyment of this site. Not sure if CC has done anything to deter things. I just think it is like the world today--everyone needs something new and exciting.

I still think CC is the best site to play risk, but for myself I am played out for the most part.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Pedronicus on Mon May 14, 2012 4:37 pm

Everytime a well known high street shop goes out of business in England, I've noticed that the business people they interview on the news, point out that the internet has killed off the main part of the shops income.
So, it's fairly obvious that the internet is killing off this Conquer Club business.

er, wait,
I got that wrong at the end.

I think I had it the wrong way round. Yes, I did have it the wrong way round,

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So, It's fairly obvious that the High Street shops are killing off this conquer club business.

In high street's up and down the country, little shops are opening up allowing people from town a chance to get together and get out of the rain and stop heating their homes with really expensive gas and electricity and play risk together.
They have given up with the random dice and gone out to play with real dice they trust and can see.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby KoolBak on Mon May 14, 2012 4:56 pm

pssst....Pedro......you forgot to mention anything about us stoopid Uhmerukins!! :shock:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby nippersean on Mon May 14, 2012 6:32 pm

Should just let new people play 1 speed game a day imo.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Pirlo on Mon May 14, 2012 7:46 pm

nippersean wrote:Should just let new people play 1 speed game a day imo.


yeah.. I said this ages ago.. new recruits join to play not to get stuck in games with other new recruits who mainly deadbeat and ruin the experience of the rest!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Pirlo on Fri May 18, 2012 6:23 pm

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby HighlanderAttack on Fri May 18, 2012 7:42 pm

Pirlo wrote:
nippersean wrote:Should just let new people play 1 speed game a day imo.


yeah.. I said this ages ago.. new recruits join to play not to get stuck in games with other new recruits who mainly deadbeat and ruin the experience of the rest!



let new people play any speed games until they are past the new phase
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TeeGee on Sat May 19, 2012 4:51 am

I like the idea of 1 speed game per 24 hours for new recruits. Not only does it get them into the gameplay they are looking for immediately, it also encourages them to buy premium.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Agent 86 on Sun May 20, 2012 7:34 am

Yes it's declining..the reason unrealistic drops. You can't choose your drops and some games are over before you start. Now that means boring to me. Singles especially suffers from this and team games well the dice determine this now. Strategy is no longer part of this site, just ranching. It's becoming so boring and predictable that many of the longer outstanding members are leaving. I'm going non premium soon. Will take on my commitments for starting games, ICL and for my clan but won't be competing once my premium is gone..and don't any of you buy me premium cause I won't use it.

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