C&A post locked. Where to ask about?

[macken]

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Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register a new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

[xroads]

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Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register a new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

Are you really that obtuse to still claim it was not PAP?

[Jdsizzleslice]

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Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register an new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

If the user came back and mentioned that he had created only one new account, and just forgot about his only one old account, he potentially would be allowed to play under the original account, barring some circumstances.

While some slack may be given, depending on each case, it is abundantly clear in the rules when a new player registers to the site to not have multiple accounts. If they have multiple accounts , they are aware they are breaking the rules.

See this C&A Case for reference.

[MagnusGreeol]

Pleading ignorance? LOL who is conspiring here, hmmm?

All I know is, we at TOP claim first dibs to this 19 year old sensation once we figure out which multiple account he was associated with, so long as it's not P@P

also:

Hmm... how can we, at TOP, know this wasn't all a ploy from the opposition to rise a spout? That this wasn't the rest of the community conspiring against us with a fake "busted" P@P account... Someone who happened to be a rising star 19 year old, talented risk virgin, who also happened to be looking for wise, big dicked, skilled members of our clan to take him in?

Hmm.... let me scratch my balls a little more pondering the complexities

This wasn’t posted by FF123.

what do you mean? does P@P still have passwords? or someone else did it?

you say because you know FF's style or because you know whose style that post is?

And naw, CAFF just knows I'd never say something so stupid Congratz on star... very nietz!

Something along those lines.

There are some people in TOP who clearly knew it was PaP no matter what they say, such as naruto and ynagweirdnameguy. Magnus too, which I'm surprised about because he's a good character. Then there are others in TOP who had no clue what was going on. The people who are trying to help PaP are doing their clan and their other members are disservice.

I love and loved my motber to death!

I will go on record saying that ON MY MOTHERS SOUL IN HEAVEN, And I will throw in both my daughters lives, THAT ME AND TOP MEMBERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!

ps- The caps arent aggressive, just making it stand out! ")>

\MAGNUSGREEOL/♎

[IcePack]

....
Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register a new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

Yes, thats a multi account and is not allowed. You have to go back to the original account. If you can't remember it, you can file an eticket and the admin will assist in restoring the original.

[macken]

....
Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register a new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

Yes, thats a multi account and is not allowed. You have to go back to the original account. If you can't remember it, you can file an eticket and the admin will assist in restoring the original.

Ah, ok thanks.

And if one want change his nick? Can't change never?

[IcePack]

....
Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register a new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

Yes, thats a multi account and is not allowed. You have to go back to the original account. If you can't remember it, you can file an eticket and the admin will assist in restoring the original.

Ah, ok thakns.

And if one want change their nick? Can't change never?

Correct, you can "ask" (via eticket) but generally the only changes they will make is cosmetic. So if I wanted to go from "IcePack" to "Icepack" or "*IcePack*" that will probably be done, but going from IcePack to anything else is not allowed.

The only exception is if you use your real life name. If you signed up onto conquer club as "FredFlintstone" and that was your real name (or some form of it, like "FFlintstone") and you didn't realize that was your perma username, then you can then change it. But it has to be your actual user name and changing for privacy type reasons.

If you were banned, and wanted back, you can't change name, or create a multi, you would have to file an eticket and appeal your perma ban and come back under your original perma banned. Thats the ONLY acceptable way to return. If they reject your perma ban then thats the end of that. There are very, very, very limited exceptions. And again all start by communicating with the admin via an appeal of some sort.

[IcePack]

I just saw the post about Gabriels closed.
Busted is the explanation.

But I do not know what happened or where to ask this.

What happened? Was him really PaP and are confirmed? He has been banned for be multi or another reason?

Leave this unclear, I do not understand why. I would like it to be clarified, if can be.

IDK if anyone answered this directly for you so another just FYI, "busted" always means multi bust. Doesn't necessarily mean that he was busted as the person claimed, but definitely a multi.
They dont always confirm who they were busted with, but if they were going to they would say "busted with X, Y, Z"
If they were banned for some other reason, then they wouldn't use the term "busted". Thats reserved only for multis.

[zeus111]

zeus111[/quote]
This has been forwarded to me. If you have any evidence to support your claim, please forward them to me. What we only have is their mistaken support that the account could not have been PaP. Some of you only have suspicions that they are liars. Is it going to be a precedent that from now on, anyone who mistakenly defends someone they thought is not a multi should also be punished? If this is turning into another witch hunting, let's stop it and move on. We are watching too many movies.

Again, if you have evidence to support whatever you suspect them to have done, please present it.[/quote]

this was reply from ka i tend to agree there is no real hard evidence on top clan members only speculation ....
so thats why the second was case was locked .....as for the reason gabe was busted really all he was pap plain and simple

zeus111

[iAmCaffeine]

Pleading ignorance? LOL who is conspiring here, hmmm?

All I know is, we at TOP claim first dibs to this 19 year old sensation once we figure out which multiple account he was associated with, so long as it's not P@P

also:

Hmm... how can we, at TOP, know this wasn't all a ploy from the opposition to rise a spout? That this wasn't the rest of the community conspiring against us with a fake "busted" P@P account... Someone who happened to be a rising star 19 year old, talented risk virgin, who also happened to be looking for wise, big dicked, skilled members of our clan to take him in?

Hmm.... let me scratch my balls a little more pondering the complexities

This wasn’t posted by FF123.

what do you mean? does P@P still have passwords? or someone else did it?

you say because you know FF's style or because you know whose style that post is?

And naw, CAFF just knows I'd never say something so stupid Congratz on star... very nietz!

Something along those lines.

There are some people in TOP who clearly knew it was PaP no matter what they say, such as naruto and ynagweirdnameguy. Magnus too, which I'm surprised about because he's a good character. Then there are others in TOP who had no clue what was going on. The people who are trying to help PaP are doing their clan and their other members are disservice.

I love and loved my motber to death!

I will go on record saying that ON MY MOTHERS SOUL IN HEAVEN, And I will throw in both my daughters lives, THAT ME AND TOP MEMBERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!

ps- The caps arent aggressive, just making it stand out! ")>

\MAGNUSGREEOL/♎

Did it not cross your mind at all? Did it not seem weird whatsoever? You know I respect you mate but there's just no way you didn't think it could be Paul or talk to your clanmates about it.

[Jdsizzleslice]

....
Here it's not clear, he was definitely busted because he is not a real new account, which was to be expected given his skills at the game, but not necessarily because he was PaulatPeace multi.
I also think the admin could let us know.

Regarding your appointment, I have a question.

If a player who is not currently playing, let's say he stopped playing a couple of years ago (and not because was banned of course), register a new account with another nick.
It is allowed?
Is that considered multi, if he just only uses the new account?

Yes, thats a multi account and is not allowed. You have to go back to the original account. If you can't remember it, you can file an eticket and the admin will assist in restoring the original.

Ah, ok thakns.

And if one want change their nick? Can't change never?

Correct, you can "ask" (via eticket) but generally the only changes they will make is cosmetic. So if I wanted to go from "IcePack" to "Icepack" or "*IcePack*" that will probably be done, but going from IcePack to anything else is not allowed.

The only exception is if you use your real life name. If you signed up onto conquer club as "FredFlintstone" and that was your real name (or some form of it, like "FFlintstone") and you didn't realize that was your perma username, then you can then change it. But it has to be your actual user name and changing for privacy type reasons.

If you were banned, and wanted back, you can't change name, or create a multi, you would have to file an eticket and appeal your perma ban and come back under your original perma banned. Thats the ONLY acceptable way to return. If they reject your perma ban then thats the end of that. There are very, very, very limited exceptions. And again all start by communicating with the admin via an appeal of some sort.

Agreed. See this post for reference.

[FreeFalling123]

This player won some matches that I don’t think P@Pa would typically play, but it seems like everyone says it’s obviously P@Pa.

I can see some differences in the writing style, but a lot of the same tendencies are indeed showing up. This doesn’t automatically mean P@Pa is back && that our clan had anything to do with it.

There is no way of us knowing this guy was P@Pa if that is actually a true thing... imagine P@Pa coming to one of us and saying “guys I just really love Antarctica and want to invitd the best players to play and I’m also going to send out a bunch of pms regarding the selected...”
I doubt there is even one of us that would support this — especially when the player also wants to play games with TOPers as well ... wtf kind of alias is that?

It’s baffling to me how you guys think we arranged these things

[macken]

This has been forwarded to me. If you have any evidence to support your claim, please forward them to me. What we only have is their mistaken support that the account could not have been PaP. Some of you only have suspicions that they are liars. Is it going to be a precedent that from now on, anyone who mistakenly defends someone they thought is not a multi should also be punished? If this is turning into another witch hunting, let's stop it and move on. We are watching too many movies.

Again, if you have evidence to support whatever you suspect them to have done, please present it.

this was reply from ka i tend to agree there is no real hard evidence on top clan members only speculation ....
so thats why the second was case was locked .....as for the reason gabe was busted really all he was pap plain and simple

zeus111

You realized you are affirming things you do not know?
You can say that are your suspicions, but not that are facts.

You again are affirming the reason about gabe. If anyone read it, can think that what you say has been confirmed.
If many people make affirmations that are only suspicions, in the end we had a lot of affirmations that can create lot of opinions based on speculations and beliefs.
I think that is not desirable and fair and would be reduced to the really confirmed.

One reads a lot of it....., if they do not answer it is because they are guilty.
.....Now they will come to say that they are innocent.
..... it's a pap & top plan...
.... have to punish top members,
etc. etc.

We're going to suspect, judge and condemn everybody who plays, talks, or anything, as we have seen in this issuse in a couple of days?

Really one can say this kind of things and think that have sense? With all the respect to all

[zeus111]

This has been forwarded to me. If you have any evidence to support your claim, please forward them to me. What we only have is their mistaken support that the account could not have been PaP. Some of you only have suspicions that they are liars. Is it going to be a precedent that from now on, anyone who mistakenly defends someone they thought is not a multi should also be punished? If this is turning into another witch hunting, let's stop it and move on. We are watching too many movies.

Again, if you have evidence to support whatever you suspect them to have done, please present it.

this was reply from ka i tend to agree there is no real hard evidence on top clan members only speculation ....
so thats why the second was case was locked .....as for the reason gabe was busted really all he was pap plain and simple

zeus111

You realized you are affirming things you do not know?
You can say that are your suspicions, but not that are facts.

You again are affirming the reason about gabe. If anyone read it, can think that what you say has been confirmed.
If many people make affirmations that are only suspicions, in the end we had a lot of affirmations that can create lot of opinions based on speculations and beliefs.
I think that is not desirable and fair and would be reduced to the really confirmed.

One reads a lot of it....., if they do not answer it is because they are guilty.
.....Now they will come to say that they are innocent.
..... it's a pap & top plan...
.... have to punish top members,
etc. etc.

We're going to suspect, judge and condemn everybody who plays, talks, or anything, as we have seen in this issuse in a couple of days?

Really one can say this kind of things and think that have sense? With all the respect to all

gabe was accused of being back on cc club as pap .... ruling busted !!!! what more is it u need.......why is it a nonmember spotted this and you all claim u didnt let this go move on go play risk ...........

[macken]

This has been forwarded to me. If you have any evidence to support your claim, please forward them to me. What we only have is their mistaken support that the account could not have been PaP. Some of you only have suspicions that they are liars. Is it going to be a precedent that from now on, anyone who mistakenly defends someone they thought is not a multi should also be punished? If this is turning into another witch hunting, let's stop it and move on. We are watching too many movies.

Again, if you have evidence to support whatever you suspect them to have done, please present it.

this was reply from ka i tend to agree there is no real hard evidence on top clan members only speculation ....
so thats why the second was case was locked .....as for the reason gabe was busted really all he was pap plain and simple

zeus111

You realized you are affirming things you do not know?
You can say that are your suspicions, but not that are facts.

You again are affirming the reason about gabe. If anyone read it, can think that what you say has been confirmed.
If many people make affirmations that are only suspicions, in the end we had a lot of affirmations that can create lot of opinions based on speculations and beliefs.
I think that is not desirable and fair and would be reduced to the really confirmed.

One reads a lot of it....., if they do not answer it is because they are guilty.
.....Now they will come to say that they are innocent.
..... it's a pap & top plan...
.... have to punish top members,
etc. etc.

We're going to suspect, judge and condemn everybody who plays, talks, or anything, as we have seen in this issuse in a couple of days?

Really one can say this kind of things and think that have sense? With all the respect to all

gabe was accused of being back on cc club as pap .... ruling busted !!!! what more is it u need.......why is it a nonmember spotted this and you all claim u didnt let this go move on go play risk ...........

Very simple, and has been said from the beginning.
Because there has been comment accusing us. So one have to say about.

I not know multis or whatever, I have nothing about it. And are not my job this king of things.
But if I read that someone are relation some multi or so with me (or clan), and are saying these things, is normal that I come out in my own defense, and in this case of my mates of clan, that are in the same situation.

Understood? The matter that makes us talk about is not of some guy-multi, the matter is the accusation against us.

[zeus111]

m8 i get it but to try and say that no one new from top clan that gabe was pap we have no choice but to take that at face value ,,the evidence if any would be in the cc clubs pms seems as those can not be looked into or game chat hidden under fog ....opinions are not evidence ....gabe again was accused as pap and busted for it ...as for the top clan members only they no the real truth ...i am not trying to be rude in any way but my opinion is that 2 or more top member s new it was him tried to reunite him with the clan he was in prior ,,,,can i prove this no do many feel same as i do hell yes ....its also scary to think pap has passwords to accounts as we now can see he wont just go ......perhaps a ip block may be needed i do know site can see ip addresses of its members ....... he was not accused as being a multi but as being a banned member of cc club .....them all the conflicting stories one member claims gabe approached them then gabe claims top cats approached him ect .....all i can say there is zero honor in cheats or ppl who consort with them.as u can see the site has locked the 2nd report and i agree why they did ...nothing but speculation ........

[macken]

As I said, are accusations against top members. Just now FreeFalling told us in our wasap group that he are banned.

??? Seriously ???

Perhaps by this comment of iAmCaffeine? Or for another comment in this way of accusations? Not matter is are for this or for another, but the result are amazing....
So you have the evidence of the importance to not put bullshit here....

I go to bed, but all that should not happen

Hmm... how can we, at TOP, know this wasn't all a ploy from the opposition to rise a spout? That this wasn't the rest of the community conspiring against us with a fake "busted" P@P account... Someone who happened to be a rising star 19 year old, talented risk virgin, who also happened to be looking for wise, big dicked, skilled members of our clan to take him in?

Hmm.... let me scratch my balls a little more pondering the complexities

This wasn’t posted by FF123.

[IcePack]

As I said, are accusations against top members. Just now FreeFalling told us in our wasap group that he are banned.

??? Seriously ???

Perhaps by this comment of iAmCaffeine? Or for another comment in this way of accusations? Not matter is are for this or for another, but the result are amazing....
So you have the evidence of the importance to not put bullshit here....

I go to bed, but all that should not happen

Hmm... how can we, at TOP, know this wasn't all a ploy from the opposition to rise a spout? That this wasn't the rest of the community conspiring against us with a fake "busted" P@P account... Someone who happened to be a rising star 19 year old, talented risk virgin, who also happened to be looking for wise, big dicked, skilled members of our clan to take him in?

Hmm.... let me scratch my balls a little more pondering the complexities

This wasn’t posted by FF123.

Theres no way FF123 would be banned without some sort of proof, or admission. Not simply accusations.
IDK what he's banned for, but it would take more then a simple post to have that occur. Obviously more to the situation or something unrelated.
Could be something as simple as FF123 still had a password that P@P had access too and P@P signed in and posted, therefore allowing access
to a perma banned member. All of TOP was previously warned to change passwords so that sort of thing wouldn't happen, so thats a possibility.

[macken]

As I said, are accusations against top members. Just now FreeFalling told us in our wasap group that he are banned.

??? Seriously ???

Perhaps by this comment of iAmCaffeine? Or for another comment in this way of accusations? Not matter is are for this or for another, but the result are amazing....
So you have the evidence of the importance to not put bullshit here....

I go to bed, but all that should not happen

Hmm... how can we, at TOP, know this wasn't all a ploy from the opposition to rise a spout? That this wasn't the rest of the community conspiring against us with a fake "busted" P@P account... Someone who happened to be a rising star 19 year old, talented risk virgin, who also happened to be looking for wise, big dicked, skilled members of our clan to take him in?

Hmm.... let me scratch my balls a little more pondering the complexities

This wasn’t posted by FF123.

Theres no way FF123 would be banned without some sort of proof, or admission. Not simply accusations.
IDK what he's banned for, but it would take more then a simple post to have that occur. Obviously more to the situation or something unrelated.
Could be something as simple as FF123 still had a password that P@P had access too and P@P signed in and posted, therefore allowing access
to a perma banned member. All of TOP was previously warned to change passwords so that sort of thing wouldn't happen, so thats a possibility.

I think that can be the reason for the banner, that the admins can think that PaP joined in the FF account.

I can ensure that this are not .

That message was writen by FF.
PaP have not any pw of us.
And I'm very sure PaP would not do it.

[IcePack]

I think that can be the reason for the banner, that the admins can think that PaP joined in the FF account.

I can ensure that this are not .

That message was writen by FF.
PaP have not any pw of us.
And I'm very sure PaP would not do it.

IDK if the message was written by FF or P@P, but clearly something happened. IDK what, but they dont operate off conjecture.
"I'm very sure PaP would not do it" < why?

He got a ton of accounts frozen / banned previously for accessing them after he was perma banned without permission so that he could
spam the site and PM people. Whats to say he didn't do it again? If FF didn't change his password, then P@P would have access.
He's still a listed sitter on FF's wall, so clearly at one point he had access to FF's password. Its not out of the realm of possibility / feasibility.

It might be completely unrelated to the P@P thing. IDK, but then FF should have a much better idea of why he was banned if its unrelated.
Because then it means he did something separately. But all it would take if P@P to sign into FF's account to get himself guested, if he didn't change PW.
If thats the case, he might not even know that P@P did it other then knowing he didn't change his PW>

[macken]

I think that can be the reason for the banner, that the admins can think that PaP joined in the FF account.

I can ensure that this are not .

That message was writen by FF.
PaP have not any pw of us.
And I'm very sure PaP would not do it.

IDK if the message was written by FF or P@P, but clearly something happened. IDK what, but they dont operate off conjecture.
"I'm very sure PaP would not do it" < why?

He got a ton of accounts frozen / banned previously for accessing them after he was perma banned without permission so that he could
spam the site and PM people. Whats to say he didn't do it again? If FF didn't change his password, then P@P would have access.
He's still a listed sitter on FF's wall, so clearly at one point he had access to FF's password. Its not out of the realm of possibility / feasibility.

It might be completely unrelated to the P@P thing. IDK, but then FF should have a much better idea of why he was banned if its unrelated.
Because then it means he did something separately. But all it would take if P@P to sign into FF's account to get himself guested, if he didn't change PW.
If thats the case, he might not even know that P@P did it other then knowing he didn't change his PW>

The first, FF wrote it
The second, PaP have not any pw of us.
FF was banned too and one of the requirements to allow return was change his pw, to avoid PaP can use it. That pw was changed. PaP have not it.

The third, Is in addition (but the both previous are determinants). I'm sure of this because after all that happens, PaP at that time was angry. Later he apologized and he gave his word that he would not do it again. And I trust in that.

[IcePack]

The first, FF wrote it
The second, PaP have not any pw of us.
FF was banned too and one of the requirements to allow return was change his pw, to avoid PaP can use it. That pw was changed. PaP have not it.

The third, Is in addition (but the both previous are determinants). I'm sure of this because after all that happens, PaP at that time was angry. Later he apologized and he gave his word that he would not do it again. And I trust in that.

Fair enough, then it must be something unrelated or one of the two statements above is not correct.
Or FF123 gave his PW to "Gabe" not knowing it was Paul, and Paul used it again breaking the statement #3.

[macken]

I think they have to check the IP of FF, and they can see was his IP too.

In all case, I guess is not easy deal with all this. We'll wait for the explanations or the restore of FF if has been a misunderstanding.

[macken]

The first, FF wrote it
The second, PaP have not any pw of us.
FF was banned too and one of the requirements to allow return was change his pw, to avoid PaP can use it. That pw was changed. PaP have not it.

The third, Is in addition (but the both previous are determinants). I'm sure of this because after all that happens, PaP at that time was angry. Later he apologized and he gave his word that he would not do it again. And I trust in that.

Fair enough, then it must be something unrelated or one of the two statements above is not correct.
Or FF123 gave his PW to "Gabe" not knowing it was Paul, and Paul used it again breaking the statement #3.

Believe me, we are in contact in wasap. We know FF are who wrote these post. He say it. So nobody joined in his account to write it, was hymself with did it.

[IcePack]

The first, FF wrote it
The second, PaP have not any pw of us.
FF was banned too and one of the requirements to allow return was change his pw, to avoid PaP can use it. That pw was changed. PaP have not it.

The third, Is in addition (but the both previous are determinants). I'm sure of this because after all that happens, PaP at that time was angry. Later he apologized and he gave his word that he would not do it again. And I trust in that.

Fair enough, then it must be something unrelated or one of the two statements above is not correct.
Or FF123 gave his PW to "Gabe" not knowing it was Paul, and Paul used it again breaking the statement #3.

Believe me, we are in contact in wasap. We know FF are who wrote these post. He say it. So nobody joined in his account to write it, was hymself with did it.

I dont doubt it, I'm not saying someone else wrote it. Just trying to explain the possibilities to help.
So either its unrelated situation or somehow the other statements about account security aren't correct. Doesn't mean he didn't write it, but could mean someone had access.