If this isn't pay-to-win business logic, what is it?

[BIG_John]

I am wondering where you get the premium dice at? I think the site forgot to give them to me lol!!!

Thanks for letting me know, I'll make sure you get yours upgraded shortly

Thank you sir! I will be waiting patiently for them

[BrutalBob]

I am wondering where you get the premium dice at? I think the site forgot to give them to me lol!!!

Thanks for letting me know, I'll make sure you get yours upgraded shortly

Thank you sir! I will be waiting patiently for them

I long suspected you had to "be nice" to someone to get those dice. Now I know who, I'll join the queue.



I always wondered what that queue was for...

[IcePack]

I am wondering where you get the premium dice at? I think the site forgot to give them to me lol!!!

Thanks for letting me know, I'll make sure you get yours upgraded shortly

Thank you sir! I will be waiting patiently for them

I long suspected you had to "be nice" to someone to get those dice. Now I know who, I'll join the queue.



I always wondered what that queue was for...

No dice fo' you!

[betiko]

You've rebutted nothing, just puerile rhetorics and beliefs as concise as "everybody knows" (who's everybody and what's the science of «everybody»), "that has been refuted" (by whom and how?) and you are just beating dead horse, bla bla bla (well I'll tell what DeGrasse Tyson said to BoB: Being five centuries regressed in your reasoning doesn’t mean we all can’t still like your music).

Again, this thread is not about wins or losses, it's about a stable pattern of permanent inferior RNG outcome throughout 5 years.

your overall dice say 3,51 in your entire CC career, mine say 3,50 and i've been a premium all my career. I think it means I should stop being premium to get your kind of above-average dice right?

[BrutalBob]

You've rebutted nothing, just puerile rhetorics and beliefs as concise as "everybody knows" (who's everybody and what's the science of «everybody»), "that has been refuted" (by whom and how?) and you are just beating dead horse, bla bla bla (well I'll tell what DeGrasse Tyson said to BoB: Being five centuries regressed in your reasoning doesn’t mean we all can’t still like your music).

Again, this thread is not about wins or losses, it's about a stable pattern of permanent inferior RNG outcome throughout 5 years.

your overall dice say 3,51 in your entire CC career, mine say 3,50 and i've been a premium all my career. I think it means I should stop being premium to get your kind of above-average dice right?

Ahh you havent been paying close enough attention. The dice stats are rigged too.

This is one of the perplexing things about this whole affair. The dice are rigged to give an unfair advantage to premiums so that people pay to get better dice. The real clincher for this conspiracy though, is that no a single person knows about it, except one guy ...

[Condestável]

You've rebutted nothing, just puerile rhetorics and beliefs as concise as "everybody knows" (who's everybody and what's the science of «everybody»), "that has been refuted" (by whom and how?) and you are just beating dead horse, bla bla bla (well I'll tell what DeGrasse Tyson said to BoB: Being five centuries regressed in your reasoning doesn’t mean we all can’t still like your music).

Again, this thread is not about wins or losses, it's about a stable pattern of permanent inferior RNG outcome throughout 5 years.

your overall dice say 3,51 in your entire CC career, mine say 3,50 and i've been a premium all my career. I think it means I should stop being premium to get your kind of above-average dice right?

Ahh you havent been paying close enough attention. The dice stats are rigged too.

This is one of the perplexing things about this whole affair. The dice are rigged to give an unfair advantage to premiums so that people pay to get better dice. The real clincher for this conspiracy though, is that no a single person knows about it, except one guy ...

I've told you that my stats against this and other premiums are permanently negative and you keep on proselytizing.

Look dude, I've explained you what's the deal, this premium here does stuff every game that I simply can't, simply because I am not able to do it, he does this type of reckless play every time and gets away with units to spare. Here it is one more game. I try to do the same, I crash on the first 3 unit neutral.



I am simply not allowed because I can't get the same numbers he gets, not even close, you understand?

The stats here are not any close to the experience I get but unsurprisingly they are still negative. Are you blind or what?



And you rant that I give you selected evidence and that I am the only one complaining. That's very scientific. In matters of "belief", if you ask me, I have little doubts that the system is fishy to be nice. It's very simple to program something to give whatever group of users you wish a specific edge and to dilute that edge in other situations.

But I am not talking about belief, it's just what happens.

[owenshooter]

LISTEN TO ME!!!

Ohhhhhhhhhh!!! that makes PERFECT SENSE, FINALLY!!!-Jésus noir

[Condestável]

[Donelladan]

I've told you that my stats against this and other premiums are permanently negative and you keep on proselytizing.

And we have told you that it is NOT the case for other freemium member.
Our proof ? Conqueror ( highest ranked player on the site) is a freemium.
How could he ever become conqueror if freemium dice were not as good as premium ones ?


So, either it is only you, or, you are wrong when you say it is against all other premiums that you are having bad dice.
Anyway, no one is ever gonna believe you, so you should give up trying to convince us about that stuff.


Btw, you never said, what would be the interest for the site owner that freemiums always lose because of bad dice ?

[owenshooter]

I've told you that my stats against this and other premiums are permanently negative and you keep on proselytizing.

And we have told you that it is NOT the case for other freemium member.
Our proof ? Conqueror ( highest ranked player on the site) is a freemium.
How could he ever become conqueror if freemium dice were not as good as premium ones ?


So, either it is only you, or, you are wrong when you say it is against all other premiums that you are having bad dice.
Anyway, no one is ever gonna believe you, so you should give up trying to convince us about that stuff.


Btw, you never said, what would be the interest for the site owner that freemiums always lose because of bad dice ?

yes!!! this is the perfect conspiracy theory!! it is happening, only happening to one person, and he can't prove it is happening, because those behind it are soooo damn sneaky!!! the black jesus loves this guy...-Jésus noir

[Condestável]

I've told you that my stats against this and other premiums are permanently negative and you keep on proselytizing.

And we have told you that it is NOT the case for other freemium member.
Our proof ? Conqueror ( highest ranked player on the site) is a freemium.
How could he ever become conqueror if freemium dice were not as good as premium ones ?


So, either it is only you, or, you are wrong when you say it is against all other premiums that you are having bad dice.
Anyway, no one is ever gonna believe you, so you should give up trying to convince us about that stuff.


Btw, you never said, what would be the interest for the site owner that freemiums always lose because of bad dice ?

No one? who's no one?

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I even posted my dice stats which confirm what I've been telling you. All you do is crying "conspiracist" even if I shower you with examples and explain you what happens in all detail.

If I had a site like this I would have a section explaining the randomizing process in all detail, it's not players who have to prove anything, specially when they only present facts.

[boberz]

The dice are shit, apparently. But any suggestion that they are rigged against you is laughable. Hence why people are a laughing at you.

[Condestável]

The dice are shit, apparently. But any suggestion that they are rigged against you is laughable. Hence why people are a laughing at you.

What people? a bunch of religious fanatics?


I've told you I can back my claims. I'll start posting the outcome ratio of battles against premiums since I started playing online Risk again.


Do you want me to extend the data all the way back to my first game or is this enough?



Outcome Ratio vs Premium Players since 1/1/2015


POSITIVE


Condestável 4.8 vs Flashrockjohnny 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -2% 136 126 +2% 72 34 -6% 2 4 -4% 7 6 0 0 +8% 2 2
Defend +7% 96 86 0% 30 57 -28% 2 4 +2% 4 5 0 0 -8% 3 3
Total +2% 232 212 +1% 102 91 -17% 4 8 -1% 11 11 0 0 -2% 5 5


Condestável 4.8 vs pconnolly365 4.9
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 3 3 -16% 1 1 -39% 0 2 +42% 1 0 0 0 0 0
Defend +4% 6 6 +10% 7 9 0 0 -42% 0 1 0 0 0 0
Total +1% 9 9 +7% 8 10 -39% 0 2 0% 1 1 0 0 0 0


Condestável 4.8 vs MAC1812 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault +4% 36 26 +7% 61 23 0 0 +9% 6 3 0 0 -8% 1 2
Defend -1% 30 36 +8% 27 37 +39% 2 0 +38% 8 2 +26% 1 0 -18% 2 3
Total +2% 66 62 +7% 88 60 +39% 2 0 +24% 14 5 +26% 1 0 -15% 3 5


Condestável 4.8 vs Sotan 4.9
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault +9% 129 75 +5% 45 18 -39% 0 6 -13% 4 5 0 0 -25% 1 5
Defend +7% 228 206 +6% 44 65 +19% 16 4 +6% 10 11 -8% 2 1 -14% 8 10
Total +7% 357 281 +6% 89 83 +6% 16 10 0% 14 16 -8% 2 1 -17% 9 15


Condestável 4.8 vs DaveH 4.9
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 15 15 +34% 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Defend +15% 17 11 +26% 3 2 0 0 +58% 1 0 0 0 -58% 0 1
Total +5% 32 26 +28% 5 2 0 0 +58% 1 0 0 0 -58% 0 1




NEGATIVE


Condestável 4.8 vs zazzo 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -1% 415 361 -3% 249 146 -6% 15 31 -3% 30 25 -26% 0 1 +6% 21 23
Defend -1% 454 544 -2% 215 454 -5% 20 16 +1% 12 16 -37% 3 5 +12% 14 6
Total -1% 869 905 -2% 464 600 -6% 35 47 -2% 42 41 -36% 3 6 +8% 35 29


Condestável 4.8 vs sylvanfish 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 11 11 +14% 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Defend -7% 11 17 -1% 2 4 0 0 +58% 1 0 +26% 1 0 -58% 0 1
Total -6% 22 28 +6% 6 5 0 0 +58% 1 0 +26% 1 0 -58% 0 1


Condestável 4.8 vs Txflier 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 3 3 -6% 3 2 +11% 1 1 -58% 0 2 0 0 -42% 0 1
Defend -5% 14 20 -6% 5 13 +14% 3 1 +58% 2 0 0 0 +8% 2 1
Total -5% 17 23 -6% 8 15 +13% 4 2 0% 2 2 0 0 -4% 2 2


Condestável 4.8 vs ursamajor1 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -14% 4 6 +1% 2 1 +11% 1 1 -58% 0 1 0 0 +58% 2 0
Defend +4% 1 1 -34% 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total -11% 5 7 -8% 2 2 +11% 1 1 -58% 0 1 0 0 +58% 2 0


Condestável 4.8 vs tspeed30 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -12% 10 14 -41% 1 3 +11% 3 3 +17% 3 1 0 0 -42% 0 1
Defend -4% 11 15 -1% 7 14 -11% 1 1 -42% 0 1 -41% 1 2 -8% 1 1
Total -8% 21 29 -7% 8 17 +6% 4 4 +5% 3 2 -41% 1 2 -19% 1 2


Condestável 4.8 vs usgrant 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -9% 9 11 -4% 5 3 +11% 2 2 -8% 1 1 0 0 +58% 1 0
Defend +1% 34 38 +13% 8 9 +14% 3 1 -9% 1 2 -75% 0 1 +8% 2 1
Total -1% 43 49 +8% 13 12 +13% 5 3 -8% 2 3 -75% 0 1 +21% 3 1


Condestável 4.8 vs Matrix20027 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 5 5 +9% 3 1 0 0 -58% 0 1 0 0 0 0
Defend -15% 5 11 -19% 2 11 0 0 -42% 0 1 0 0 +42% 1 0
Total -11% 10 16 -12% 5 12 0 0 -50% 0 2 0 0 +42% 1 0


Condestável 4.8 vs LiveLoveTeach 4.9
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -10% 24 30 0% 25 13 +61% 2 0 +12% 7 3 -26% 0 2 +1% 3 4
Defend 0% 38 44 +3% 19 33 +39% 4 0 +5% 7 8 0 0 -33% 1 3
Total -4% 62 74 +1% 44 46 +46% 6 0 +8% 14 11 -26% 0 2 -11% 4 7


Condestável 4.8 vs nice scott 4.5
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -3% 74 72 -2% 7 4 -2% 6 10 +17% 3 1 +75% 2 0 +18% 3 2
Defend -1% 57 71 +3% 18 31 0 0 -17% 1 3 0 0 +42% 2 0
Total -2% 131 143 +2% 25 35 -2% 6 10 0% 4 4 +75% 2 0 +25% 5 2


Condestável 4.8 vs Streaker 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -2% 433 399 -5% 45 29 -29% 1 9 0% 7 5 0 0 -8% 1 2
Defend +1% 86 96 +8% 24 33 -11% 1 1 -42% 0 2 -75% 0 1 -8% 1 1
Total -1% 519 495 +1% 69 62 -26% 2 10 -6% 7 7 -75% 0 1 -8% 2 3


Condestável 4.8 vs General Disseray 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -8% 11 13 +5% 17 7 -39% 0 2 +42% 5 0 0 0 +58% 2 0
Defend -2% 8 10 -13% 3 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total -5% 19 23 -2% 20 18 -39% 0 2 +42% 5 0 0 0 +58% 2 0


Condestável 4.8 vs dvdmarra 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 39 39 -26% 8 12 -14% 2 6 -58% 0 1 0 0 +58% 1 0
Defend 0% 52 62 -7% 8 22 0 0 -9% 1 2 0 0 0 0
Total -2% 91 101 -15% 16 34 -14% 2 6 -21% 1 3 0 0 +58% 1 0


Condestável 4.8 vs angrykid88 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -4% 25 25 +3% 20 9 -14% 5 15 +2% 6 4 -26% 0 1 -25% 1 5
Defend -3% 13 17 +8% 16 22 +14% 6 2 -17% 1 3 -25% 1 1 -8% 1 1
Total -4% 38 42 +6% 36 31 -6% 11 17 -3% 7 7 -25% 1 2 -21% 2 6


Condestável 4.8 vs Reatorie 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault +5% 26 18 +5% 12 5 -2% 3 5 +9% 4 2 0 0 -42% 0 5
Defend -9% 25 43 -6% 10 26 0 0 +18% 3 2 0 0 +8% 2 1
Total -4% 51 61 -3% 22 31 -2% 3 5 +13% 7 4 0 0 -23% 2 6


Condestável 4.8 vs Mike1962 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault +21% 12 4 +1% 6 3 0 0 -58% 0 1 0 0 -42% 0 1
Defend -5% 27 39 -17% 2 10 0 0 -22% 1 4 0 0 -8% 1 1
Total 0% 39 43 -10% 8 13 0 0 -28% 1 5 0 0 -19% 1 2


Condestável 4.8 vs Lifelongcane 4.4
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault +3% 8 6 +34% 2 0 -6% 2 4 -38% 1 4 0 0 -8% 1 2
Defend -8% 13 21 -6% 5 13 +39% 4 0 -9% 2 4 0 0 -8% 1 1
Total -5% 21 27 -2% 7 13 +12% 6 4 -22% 3 8 0 0 -8% 2 3


Condestável 4.8 vs geoffc 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -2% 57 53 +3% 40 18 +36% 3 1 +42% 1 0 0 0 +58% 1 0
Defend -6% 17 25 +2% 10 18 +39% 4 0 +58% 2 0 0 0 -25% 1 2
Total -3% 74 78 +3% 50 36 +38% 7 1 +53% 3 0 0 0 -4% 2 2


Condestável 4.8 vs Descon297 4.8
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -37% 1 5 -8% 7 5 +61% 2 0 +17% 3 1 0 0 +58% 1 0
Defend -4% 11 15 +4% 11 18 0 0 -42% 0 2 0 0 0 0
Total -10% 12 20 +1% 18 23 +61% 2 0 -3% 3 3 0 0 +58% 1 0


Condestável 4.8 vs nooruddinaftab 4.7
3 vs 2 3 vs 1 2 vs 2 2 vs 1 1 vs 2 1 vs 1
Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses Luck Kills Losses
Assault -2% 60 56 -7% 45 31 -3% 8 14 +11% 13 6 -26% 0 1 +15% 4 3
Defend 0% 103 121 -2% 44 94 -11% 2 2 -9% 5 10 0 0 +17% 6 2
Total -1% 163 177 -4% 89 125 -4% 10 16 +2% 18 16 -26% 0 1 +16% 10 5


You must think you are talking to some American creationist or flat earth believer.

[elfish_lad]

You know? I wasn't sure up till now what to make of you and all this. As a long time listener but first time caller I would like to echo the thoughts of my compatriots:

A. We have all known, for quite some time that manufactured "luck" can never, truly reflect real chaotic chance. So? We are all going to see, regularly, anomities to reality.

B. At some point we are all going to believe, irrationally, that, for personal reasons, whatever they may be, we are being singled out and punished or disadvantaged by CC.

C.You, without justification and with unwarranted passion, really and truly believe your own bull shit.

All this being true? I have, with full confidence, drawn this conclusion with regard to you:

You are a peanut-head. Or? Conversely? A turnip.

Your choice amigo.

Ebot.

[Condestável]

You know? I wasn't sure up till now what to make of you and all this. As a long time listener but first time caller I would like to echo the thoughts of my compatriots:

A. We have all known, for quite some time that manufactured "luck" can never, truly reflect real chaotic chance. So? We are all going to see, regularly, anomities to reality.

B. At some point we are all going to believe, irrationally, that, for personal reasons, whatever they may be, we are being singled out and punished or disadvantaged by CC.

C.You, without justification and with unwarranted passion, really and truly believe your own bull shit.

All this being true? I have, with full confidence, drawn this conclusion with regard to you:

You are a peanut-head. Or? Conversely? A turnip.

Your choice amigo.

Ebot.

I choose that you are another ridiculous die-hard HTML-war fan that has been here forever and lives for the game and fully trusts in it blindly, who gets in these clans of HTML rambos. It's hilarious. Look at you all, the same type of argumentation and muricano trash insults, trying to drag me into a ban.

It's the same when we go to youtube watching videos about the atomic bombs in Japan and all these nutjobs flooding with the most spurdo justifications for dropping nuclear weapons on civilians in 1945. I bet you also believe God really created the Earth 6000 years ago.

Read the numbers I posted, jock. And add them if you can.

[IcePack]

Selectively posting numbers means nothing.
Sorry.

[Condestável]

Selectively posting numbers means nothing.
Sorry.

Those are all outcomes against premium members since 1 January 2015.

You don't know how to read or you don't know how to add?

[elfish_lad]

I choose that you are another ridiculous die-hard HTML-war fan that has been here forever and lives for the game and fully trusts in it blindly, who gets in these clans of HTML rambos. It's hilarious. Look at you all, the same time of argumentation and muricano trash insults, trying to drag me into a ban.

It's the same when we go to youtube watching videos about the atomic bombs in Japan and all these nutjobs flooding with the most spurdo justifications for dropping nuclear weapons on civilians in 1945. I bet you also believe God really created the Earth 6000 years ago.

Read the numbers I posted, jock. And add them if you can.

This will be my last conversation with you.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and choose to believe that you merely are a juvenile and a wine soaked troll. I choose to believe that. I'm going on pure faith with that. Because if I went with empirical evidence alone? I would conclude that you are merely a euro-trash asshole. But I have chosen to believe otherwise.

My final thought. Let's say that, beyond all reason and evidence to the contrary, you are right. That CC gives better dice to premium users. That capitalism rules and blesses those who suck capitalistic cock. Let's just say. Here then, after all of your chitter-chatter and gibber-gabber, is the two part conclusion:

Firstly,

You are an idiot and a fool for continuing to think you can win at a game rigged against you. And,

Secondly,

Me and my ilk, as premium CC'ers are having a shitload of more fun each battle than you, for a measly 30 bucks USD or less. (Yes. That's an awkward sentence but I'm sticking with it.)

And that is how to insult someone intelligently peanut.

Nothing but lurv. (That is scatological sarcasm, in case you missed it.)

E.

[IcePack]

Selectively posting numbers means nothing.
Sorry.

Those are all outcomes against premium members since 1 January 2015.

You don't know how to read or you don't know how to add?

This post was made by Condestável who is currently being blocked by your premium dice rewards. Display this post.

[Condestável]

I would conclude that you are merely a euro-trash asshole. But I have chosen to believe otherwise.

I'm not 53 yet but I remember how my father was at 53, a long time ago, he was a gentleman. You must have some serious money in Canada, because in my euro-trash homeland (from where your breed spawned), people talking like you do at 53 are chavs who can not afford a computer to spew such barbaric shit. Do something good for a change, give back to the natives some of their gold and oil.

And to think that your government still obeys to "euro-trash" London.

[Donelladan]

I've told you that my stats against this and other premiums are permanently negative and you keep on proselytizing.

And we have told you that it is NOT the case for other freemium member.
Our proof ? Conqueror ( highest ranked player on the site) is a freemium.
How could he ever become conqueror if freemium dice were not as good as premium ones ?


So, either it is only you, or, you are wrong when you say it is against all other premiums that you are having bad dice.
Anyway, no one is ever gonna believe you, so you should give up trying to convince us about that stuff.


Btw, you never said, what would be the interest for the site owner that freemiums always lose because of bad dice ?

No one? who's no one?

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I even posted my dice stats which confirm what I've been telling you. All you do is crying "conspiracist" even if I shower you with examples and explain you what happens in all detail.

If I had a site like this I would have a section explaining the randomizing process in all detail, it's not players who have to prove anything, specially when they only present facts.

You did not reply to anything I said.
Why ?
I did not cry "conspiracist" in my post, I only told you that other facts tends to prove that you are wrong concerning the dice.

First the case of the other freemiums who achieve high ranks - how could them with rigged dice ? The conqueror only being the most obvious case against your theory.
Second, the absence of logic behind giving bad dice to freemiun. There is no point doing it. I mean, ok, it could be an argument to upgrade to premium, get a premium and get better dice. But it is not like that, no ones ever gonna tell you get a premium to get better dice. So giving bad dice to freemium would just be really stupid. They'd be losing games, probably get pissed by it, and leave the site.

Fun fact : we do have premium member that left the site because of the dice ( or at least they claimed to do it I never checked if everyone saying they are leaving because of shitty dice did it).
Look last one that said so : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=216940

That is a premium member being there since quite a while saying that the dice are just shit. What I am saying here is, premium member complain about dice just as much as freemium, probably even more. So what regulars users are seeing with your post is just another dice complaint, and that is what it is, but you decided to add that it would only be concerning freemium, which is not the case.


Concerning your battle outcome. You posted some with positive outcome against premium member, how do you explain them if the dice are rigged ?
You did post much more negative outcome that positive one, but, as IcePack said :

Selectively posting numbers means nothing.
Sorry.

This is not all your stats, those are just some. How can we judge based on your stat against 10 opponents ?
Because, you are posting the stats from CC, if you are going there, just post your overall stats. Then we do have all the dice you ever rolled on CC, and they look pretty normal, or even good to me.


Condestável 4.8 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault 0% 3.50 36416 36697 36425 36312 36250 36602 0% 3.50 19919 20275 20119 19998 19969 20090
Defend +1% 3.52 14059 13898 14509 14083 14258 14677 0% 3.50 26591 26665 26396 26395 26494 26744
Total 0% 3.51 50475 50595 50934 50395 50508 51279 0% 3.50 46510 46940 46515 46393 46463 46834

[BrutalBob]

Condestável 4.8 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault 0% 3.50 36416 36697 36425 36312 36250 36602 0% 3.50 19919 20275 20119 19998 19969 20090
Defend +1% 3.52 14059 13898 14509 14083 14258 14677 0% 3.50 26591 26665 26396 26395 26494 26744
Total 0% 3.51 50475 50595 50934 50395 50508 51279 0% 3.50 46510 46940 46515 46393 46463 46834

Thats better dice than me. Check my stats.

Damn freemiums. Get the good dice that should be going to paid up members! We need a wall!

[Condestável]

Concerning your battle outcome. You posted some with positive outcome against premium member, how do you explain them if the dice are rigged ?
You did post much more negative outcome that positive one, but, as IcePack said :

Selectively posting numbers means nothing.
Sorry.

This is not all your stats, those are just some. How can we judge based on your stat against 10 opponents ?
Because, you are posting the stats from CC, if you are going there, just post your overall stats. Then we do have all the dice you ever rolled on CC, and they look pretty normal, or even good to me.

10 opponents?? does anyone take a look or you guys just act faithfully?

Look, since I returned to CC in January 2015, I played many games, and from those, 24 involved premiums. Those are all dice outcomes against all the premium members I've played against since I returned to CC and only against them.

5 positive overall stats against 5 premium members (actually from those 5 I lost the games played against Sotan, he's a better player at least in the maps we played). The remaining 19 premium members constantly had edge over me. I played more than once against any of those, so you have a lot of numbers out there.

Reviewing the past games is more time consuming, firstly because many of them are not premiums anymore, so I had to be recalling one by one and checking their number of games. If I'm not wrong I played many games involving around 74 premium players, 27 with positive overall dice ratio, 47 with negative dice ratio.

I'm not making this stuff up, I have no pleasure in this, I'm tired of this site, the only thing I like here are the maps because I collect and also draw maps. I'd just like to understand why the very negative perception I had got these stats backing it up. I played thousands of dice rolls in real life and I've never seen anything like this, so I decided to take a serious look at the stats to confirm if it was my "perception" and that's what there is. Add all the Kills and Losses against premiums in 3x2 and 3x1 and tell me what you got. Juste tell me.

You can look through the prism you want, check my stats yourself and compile the data, those are the numbers. "Conspiracy", "nut cracking theories", bla bla bla, YET the permanent disadvantage is there. Compile my data against premiums and add. Where does it normalize? Against neutral? Adaisnt freemium? I don't know but many of the freemiums I play against, it seems like cutting butter with a knife, that's why I keep my rank relatively stable. The problem is freemiums take a lot of time playing or else I'd only play against them.

[osok68]

euro-trash?thats shocking to hear!

[BIG_John]

It looks like you have a hard time beating saxibot as well! For someone that has a 45% and rank of Seargeant doesn't look like the dice are that bad! Just my opinion though! So nobody is going along with your bs claim and you resort to bashing the people's country? That is real classy! I think you might have been dropped on your head one to many times as a kid. But good luck with the dice!