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Re: Dice System

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:47 pm

DBandit70 wrote:my dice in the pass have ranged for losing 26 on 2 to winning a 6 on 33 both of which are impossible outcomes

in one sentence you state 2 things that happened and at the same time say they're impossible? like, what?
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:49 pm

NorthmanII wrote:Please don't try and convince me otherwise.

ah, i had a 500 word short essay prepared. are you sure you don't want to evaluate it with me?
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Re: Dice System

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:23 pm

Again, NOT likely, but apparently, according to you, this DID happen, despite your denial to the contrary.

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jusplay4fun wrote:NOT impossible, JUS very unlikely


DBandit70 wrote:my dice in the pass have ranged for losing 26 on 2 to winning a 6 on 33 both of which are impossible outcomes



I've had 2 straight days of nothing but bad dice not possible to have happen
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Re: Dice System

Postby DBandit70 on Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:44 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
DBandit70 wrote:my dice in the pass have ranged for losing 26 on 2 to winning a 6 on 33 both of which are impossible outcomes

in one sentence you state 2 things that happened and at the same time say they're impossible? like, what?


I meant it is possible on CC but not possible in real life, I've play the board game risk tons of times and never got stuff like that
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Re: Dice System

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:59 pm

there are prob more dice thrown in a day on this site than there has been as a collective total of all active users in real life
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Re: Dice System

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:38 pm

DBandit70 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
DBandit70 wrote:my dice in the pass have ranged for losing 26 on 2 to winning a 6 on 33 both of which are impossible outcomes

in one sentence you state 2 things that happened and at the same time say they're impossible? like, what?


I meant it is possible on CC but not possible in real life, I've play the board game risk tons of times and never got stuff like that


I have. I've also lost 30 hands in a row in blackjack. I've also had four of a kind in back to back hands playing poker (in real life not online). The other day a guy had pocket kings two hands in a row, both times an opponent had pocket aces... The kings tied one hand, and won the next.

Improbable things happen... just not often.
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Re: Dice System

Postby wannat8 on Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:12 am

My premium expires on July 2, no way I renew again until the dice algorithm gets fixed. Casinos dont cheat people this bad....
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Re: Dice algorithm

Postby wannat8 on Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:19 am

I'm a bad bad boy - This may or may not be a MOD EDIT
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Re: Dice System

Postby YukFoo on Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:23 pm

wannat8 wrote:My premium expires on July 2, no way I renew again until the dice algorithm gets fixed. Casinos dont cheat people this bad....


Why did all your posts get modded and the threads locked but not this one..
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Re: Dice System

Postby DBandit70 on Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:24 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:there are prob more dice thrown in a day on this site than there has been as a collective total of all active users in real life


that very true but its strange that I had good dice for 1-2 weeks then have had horrible dice for the last 3 days, ever since I said something bad about the dice lol
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Re: Dice System

Postby riskllama on Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26 pm

*inb4 lock*
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby riskllama on Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:27 pm

*inb4lock*
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby NorthmanII on Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:12 pm

Dice are not random. THEY ARE FIXED> CC sets it up for certain players. I will just come out and say it. Its the truth.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby berlin1945 on Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:40 pm

YukFoo wrote:
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NorthmanII wrote:I'm sorry but the dice states are COMPLETE BS. I just watched a player run right over me. He had 17 troops against my 7 and he lost 3. As soon as his turn was over I went to my dice stats and it said in my last 5 and 10 rolls defending I was in the positive. OK then how was the last five offensive rolls against me in the Negative. This site is basically about 30% strategy and about 70% luck. Please don't try and convince me otherwise. 10 years on this site has proven to me this is the case.


I have noticed that too. The latest roll dice stats have NO relation to what actually happens in the game. You can roll all reds on your turn, yet the dice stats will show that you were in the green. I don't believe them at all.


Don't worry boys, it all "evens out"!


No, it really doesn't. If the game picks you as a loser in a game, you're always gonna lose.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby Hooch on Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:50 pm

Evil Semp wrote:I think one of the reasons people think the dice are so bad is that they don't see their defensive dice. I know my problem is not stopping when dice are bad. You attack 10v2 and lose because you roll just once more rinse and repeat.

My challenge to people is to find a better dice program for the site to use. I don't think it would be that easy.

If there is a better program out there why wouldn't admin use it?

It would be nice to see defensive rolls.

So would people be more or less happy if we had socialist dice that weren't an average of 3.5 offensive over time and average of 3.5 for defensive?

Everyone has average dice of 3.5, except for some who have 3.49's or 3.51's briefly.

Only thing we are seeing with the streaks is the dice being brought into line.

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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby YukFoo on Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:47 am

berlin1945 wrote:
YukFoo wrote:
berlin1945 wrote:
NorthmanII wrote:I'm sorry but the dice states are COMPLETE BS. I just watched a player run right over me. He had 17 troops against my 7 and he lost 3. As soon as his turn was over I went to my dice stats and it said in my last 5 and 10 rolls defending I was in the positive. OK then how was the last five offensive rolls against me in the Negative. This site is basically about 30% strategy and about 70% luck. Please don't try and convince me otherwise. 10 years on this site has proven to me this is the case.


I have noticed that too. The latest roll dice stats have NO relation to what actually happens in the game. You can roll all reds on your turn, yet the dice stats will show that you were in the green. I don't believe them at all.


Don't worry boys, it all "evens out"!


No, it really doesn't. If the game picks you as a loser in a game, you're always gonna lose.


You missed my sarcasm.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:08 am

i wonder how many posts on these dice threads are trolls vs real complainers. that might be a fun game, Troll or Real: Dice Thread Edition.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby berlin1945 on Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:08 pm

YukFoo wrote:
berlin1945 wrote:
YukFoo wrote:
berlin1945 wrote:
NorthmanII wrote:I'm sorry but the dice states are COMPLETE BS. I just watched a player run right over me. He had 17 troops against my 7 and he lost 3. As soon as his turn was over I went to my dice stats and it said in my last 5 and 10 rolls defending I was in the positive. OK then how was the last five offensive rolls against me in the Negative. This site is basically about 30% strategy and about 70% luck. Please don't try and convince me otherwise. 10 years on this site has proven to me this is the case.


I have noticed that too. The latest roll dice stats have NO relation to what actually happens in the game. You can roll all reds on your turn, yet the dice stats will show that you were in the green. I don't believe them at all.


Don't worry boys, it all "evens out"!


No, it really doesn't. If the game picks you as a loser in a game, you're always gonna lose.


You missed my sarcasm.


I got it. I know that you hate the dice too. I just wanted to reply as if you were serious. As if you were any of a number of shameful dice apologists. :)
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby YukFoo on Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:52 pm

Nut Shot Scott wrote:i wonder how many posts on these dice threads are trolls vs real complainers. that might be a fun game, Troll or Real: Dice Thread Edition.


But I am a troll and a whining little beey0itch!
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby Keefie on Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:59 pm

In over 13 years here I've never had such poor dice as I've had this past month. Dropped 700 points with no end in sight. My very last turn in an Arms Race game = losing 18 troops 21v3 :( It's becoming disheartening.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:57 pm

Keefie wrote:In over 13 years here I've never had such poor dice as I've had this past month. Dropped 700 points with no end in sight. My very last turn in an Arms Race game = losing 18 troops 21v3 :( It's becoming disheartening.


Going through the same trauma mate. And yes, disheartening is the word, coupled with angry frustration. 18v8 to finish a multiplayer esc sweep having eliminated 4 others, only to roll 3-15. 3-15 !!! Sometimes the dice truly take the piss, and always at a crunch moment.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby rockfist on Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:25 pm

If you auto roll 10v10 it counts as one roll. If you roll it out and finish 2-2 it counts as 8.

CoF knows I rolled 0-14 to lose us CL one year. Now I am sure there are a lot of other games that turned on rolls but had I gone 4-14 we’d have won...no amount of wins in my non clan games can make up for that...they just aren’t worth enough.

Yes, I’ve probably had good dice that allowed us to win some games, but t it’s only when you win or lose the league or CC by a close margin that it matters. If we win a round of CC by 10 games...we forget the luck (thankfully we haven’t lost by that margin yet). - Faramir
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby willedtowin1 on Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:42 pm

My Clan Mates Occupation line for the last 9 years....

Occupation: Clicking assault then shouting 'what the f*ck' as loud as I can.
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby Keefie on Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:46 am

It could of course be a faulty mouse. I press assault, nothing happens. I press again, nothing happens. Picks up mouse shakes it, presses assault, nothing happens.

That'll be it, I need a new mouse :lol:
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Re: So...If the dice are Truly Random

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:04 am

willedtowin1 wrote:My Clan Mates Occupation line for the last 9 years....

Occupation: Clicking assault then shouting 'what the f*ck' as loud as I can.


:lol: :lol: :lol: =D>
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