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Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Metrik on Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:34 pm

I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:45 pm

I usually find the Foe button is the best way to go here. If you don't want them to join your games, or if you need a reminder not to join theirs, then use the foe button.

Also works for forum trolls!
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby nietzsche on Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:45 am

you need to include this as another variable in the game..

if you've played them before and know they do that kind of thing be prepared, even try to provoke it in a way that it plays in your favour. if you haven't played with them before you can take a quick look at rating, wall posts, score, etc. and get an idea of what he could do in given situations.

for example, if they're usually going for a kill even if it's an impossible shot, make it more impossible, never get too weak if you're close to them and try they do it against someone else so you get the spoils by weakening other players a bit or helping them kill a territory unreachable to them.. if they're bonus monkeys, get out of the territory you anticipate they will try to take, don't waste deployments there.. if they're easily scared, don't crowd them.. if they usually suicide on someone when they're bored, get on their good side so they do this against others and not you.. stuff like that.

you are already doing this, you're expecting them to play according to rank.. now you only need to consider more things. if you're playing to win each game, it makes the game more interesting.

but yes, if considering all of the above you're still uneasy about playing with certain player, just foe them.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Metrik wrote:I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.


Primarily, of course, you should talk to your local GP or local doctor. They're likely the best bet with this.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Metrik on Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:11 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.


Primarily, of course, you should talk to your local GP or local doctor. They're likely the best bet with this.


... what
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:23 pm

Metrik wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.


Primarily, of course, you should talk to your local GP or local doctor. They're likely the best bet with this.


... what


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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby zeus111 on Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:37 pm

Jdsizzleslice wrote:I usually find the Foe button is the best way to go here. If you don't want them to join your games, or if you need a reminder not to join theirs, then use the foe button.

Also works for forum trolls!



To foe and move on has gotten us here . just avoid them if you can rate accordingly . if they start joining your games and play in same manner then as it goes foe and move on , with site numbers at an all time low game wait times increasing in both 24 hour format as well as speed side ,foe option should be the last option . the foe option does not apply to tournaments for example players see a game wrecker they make the call to join or not try and apply that before the foe button .

good luck in all

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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Metrik on Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:55 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.


Primarily, of course, you should talk to your local GP or local doctor. They're likely the best bet with this.


... what


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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby rockfist on Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:32 pm

Oh dear.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby nietzsche on Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm

lol.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Symmetry on Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:50 pm

Metrik wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.


Primarily, of course, you should talk to your local GP or local doctor. They're likely the best bet with this.


... what


Give my advice a try. You did ask...


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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby nietzsche on Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:56 pm

tell him he needs to apologise to you Symmetry.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Symmetry on Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:58 pm

nietzsche wrote:tell him he needs to apologise to you Symmetry.


Why? I feel sorry for him.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby 2dimes on Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:08 pm

Mixed emotions. I will confess it's uncomfortably amusing like if you found a severed head in a box at a store. Also like if there was a severed head, this is wrong.

I almost miss the old days when some mod would go overboard punishing it.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Symmetry on Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:36 pm

2dimes wrote:Mixed emotions. I will confess it's uncomfortably amusing like if you found a severed head in a box at a store. Also like if there was a severed head, this is wrong.

I almost miss the old days when some mod would go overboard punishing it.


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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby 2dimes on Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:59 am

I can't do that and I think you know why.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby armati on Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:53 am

Metrik

Personally I dont see what ur talking about as an issue, play the game and move on, its not a big deal, to each his own of course tho.

As for this "foe" thingy, it looks like this thread has provided you some opportunity.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Bernie Sanders on Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:08 am

Metrik wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Metrik wrote:I am not sure how to even phrase this, or whether any advice is even possible. But I have a growing frustration with players who just clearly spoil games.

Is it just me, or do most games with 4p or more seem to be decided by poor players who recklessly take both themselves and others out of contention? Time and time again, I will see someone hitting the weaker of two opponents to the point of ensuring a win for the one who is already ahead.

This isn't merely about games it has cost me... I have won my fair share in this way too. It takes away from it.

I am just curious if anyone has found a good way to avoid this frustrating phenomenon.


Primarily, of course, you should talk to your local GP or local doctor. They're likely the best bet with this.


... what


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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby mrswdk on Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:41 am

nietzsche wrote:you need to include this as another variable in the game..

if you've played them before and know they do that kind of thing be prepared, even try to provoke it in a way that it plays in your favour. if you haven't played with them before you can take a quick look at rating, wall posts, score, etc. and get an idea of what he could do in given situations.

for example, if they're usually going for a kill even if it's an impossible shot, make it more impossible, never get too weak if you're close to them and try they do it against someone else so you get the spoils by weakening other players a bit or helping them kill a territory unreachable to them.. if they're bonus monkeys, get out of the territory you anticipate they will try to take, don't waste deployments there.. if they're easily scared, don't crowd them.. if they usually suicide on someone when they're bored, get on their good side so they do this against others and not you.. stuff like that.

you are already doing this, you're expecting them to play according to rank.. now you only need to consider more things. if you're playing to win each game, it makes the game more interesting.

but yes, if considering all of the above you're still uneasy about playing with certain player, just foe them.


Yeah. You can't just assume everyone is going to play with what you consider to be a sensible strategy. Mitigating against people who might do different or silly things is just a precaution you need to take. Like how you probably have anti-virus on your computer, rather than just letting it get infected and then complaining about how stupid jerks should stop making viruses.

It's funny that nietzsche gave you this advice because his usual approach is to just spend the entire game ranting and raving at anyone who does something he doesn't like (e.g. attack him). Physician, heal thyself.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby nietzsche on Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:08 am

game chat is also a tool.

i complain about your poor play in order to make you feel self conscious about how horrible your decisions are, then i suggest what your next move should be, be it in a direct or indirect manner, however i feel would be more effective at the moment. since you look up to me, because i'm better than you in intelligence looks and girth.. you will try to do something to please me.


other times i complain the whole game about everybody, and somehow that works because i'm a baby and nobody wants to see a baby unhappy, it's just imprinted in our dna to need to make babies happy, and so they subconsciously help me win the game.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby mrswdk on Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:55 am

You and I have played in 22 standard games together. You won six of those and I won six of those. Therefore, I am clearly just as capable a player as you. I simply hold myself with a little more poise.

Anyway we all know that if either one of us is sucking up to the other, you're the one doing the sucking.

inb4 saxi is lured into this thread by my use of the word 'sucking'
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Metrik on Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:02 pm

mrswdk wrote:You and I have played in 22 standard games together. You won six of those and I won six of those. Therefore, I am clearly just as capable a player as you. I simply hold myself with a little more poise.

Anyway we all know that if either one of us is sucking up to the other, you're the one doing the sucking.

inb4 saxi is lured into this thread by my use of the word 'sucking'


I'm guessing this was directed at Friedrich, as I just looked us up - and it looks like you and I have only played one game together - a 10p classic map which I won.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Metrik on Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:04 pm

2dimes wrote:Mixed emotions. I will confess it's uncomfortably amusing like if you found a severed head in a box at a store. Also like if there was a severed head, this is wrong.

I almost miss the old days when some mod would go overboard punishing it.


lol why punish that? It is the same way friends speak to each other. Symmetry was being a smartass (and an unfunny one at that) and I hurled a generic insult at him. If anything, it was me offering my friendship.
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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby riskllama on Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:12 pm

lol yes, but what you seem to be unaware of is that our dear sym plays a homosexual male troll here on CC...*shrugs*

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Re: Advice for dealing with game-ruiners

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:55 am

lol yes, but what you seem to be unaware of is that our dear Llama plays a heterosexual male troll here on CC...*shrugs*

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