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Conquer Club Championships......?

Postby willedtowin1 on Wed May 31, 2017 7:20 am

Any update on when and if this is every happening again =/
I believe many people loved this competition :shock:


a Great Series of Tourneys:
The Championships - Flat Rate/No Spoils
The Championships - Doubles
The Championships - Triples
The Championships - Quads
The Championships - 1v1
The Championships - Conquest
The Championships - Polymorphic
The Championships - Standard Escalating
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......

Postby dkmaster on Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:07 pm

Agree there. I really hope they will return =D>
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......

Postby willedtowin1 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:15 am

Over 1 week and no reply =/
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......

Postby Mad777 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:45 am

willedtowin1 wrote:Over 1 week and no reply =/


Sorry, I don't check this part of the site very often....more about Tournament & Tribes :)

As far Championship I can't provide an answer right now, those tournament require a tremendous amount of work but it is on the table somehow and will see if that series will go to live again 8-)
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......

Postby willedtowin1 on Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:35 pm

All of these new Long tourneys the last year or 2 and still no CC Championships ................
Does not make sense.
What Gives Guys 8-[


CC Olympics
USA Super Tourney
The Great War
ect


Seems like its preferential to what ever the ring leaders want.
CC Championships are for Bragging rights..... besides it gave medals.
I would suspect it would get tons more involvement than these other tourneys.
Please look at putting it back on the Calendar...........
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:32 am

I dont have time or ever care to run tourneys.
I do help lead a clan that is the most active in wars......
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby IcePack on Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:12 am

Those long tournaments you mention aren't run by the same group of people.

Olympics by Tribe TD
USA Supertournament by Community team
Great War by community team

So totally unrelated to the championships team. (Tournament directors) not really what "the ring leaders want" it's just different teams doing their thing.

If that team is having hard time you might consider volunteering to help the championships specifically
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby josko.ri on Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:33 pm

I am also eagerly waiting next Championships
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby owenshooter on Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:48 am

willedtowin1 wrote:Any update on when and if this is every happening again =/
I believe many people loved this competition :shock:

can you please show me the data you gathered or the poll you conducted or perhaps excerpts from the myriad conversations you had covering this subject,s to back up this wholly made up statement? thank you... the black jesus eagerly awaits your show of proof and/or empirical data...-Jésus noir

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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby owenshooter on Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:17 am

willedtowin1 wrote:


yes, yes, i see... solid analytical answer, complete with graphs and stuff... nicely done... and please refrain from flaming within the GD... the black jesus has spoken...-Bj
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:02 am

willedtowin1 wrote:I dont have time or ever care to run tourneys.
I do help lead a clan that is the most active in wars......


Conquer Club Championships should be a Major tournament for this site
and held yearly. After a period of time it would probably become one of if not
the biggest tourney of the year.

Pitting the best players (and up and coming) against one another
in serious competition on a yearly basis would be good for the site.
It would also be a good advertising tool and could create more premium players.
I would suspect most players here are very competitive and it could be advertised as such.


I am kind of surprised its not thought of as being a huge benefit for CC.
A Yearly Championship....... Most competitive games and sports have one =/
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:05 am

Also,

I would help inform the top 300+ players on site to insure more people knew of it.
That would insure at least Colonel and above knew.
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby Mad777 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:57 am

willedtowin1 wrote:
willedtowin1 wrote:I dont have time or ever care to run tourneys.
I do help lead a clan that is the most active in wars......


Conquer Club Championships should be a Major tournament for this site
and held yearly. After a period of time it would probably become one of if not
the biggest tourney of the year.

Pitting the best players (and up and coming) against one another
in serious competition on a yearly basis would be good for the site.
It would also be a good advertising tool and could create more premium players.
I would suspect most players here are very competitive and it could be advertised as such.


I am kind of surprised its not thought of as being a huge benefit for CC.
A Yearly Championship....... Most competitive games and sports have one =/


willedtowin1 wrote:Also,

I would help inform the top 300+ players on site to insure more people knew of it.
That would insure at least Colonel and above knew.


....so with the above red quoted statement that came from you, you think you will get any sympathy from Mods, who should take on their RL free time to organize such a big event like just because you ask? I don't think so....

Now and to be more precise on why the Championship hasn't take place since last (first) edition is because the Auto Tournament tool is not yet friendly to run team games, that first edition tooks a lot of effort from motivated CC members (doesn't sound like you are one from it) to make those tournament up and running, the only type we could potentially put out would be the 1v1 and the Poly...but since we have done a series and crowned all those members it would make sense to run all type again.
It has been on our plate (TD, Community & admin) however we are waiting technical support from the automate to help us coming out with something less heavy to setup...Since you don't care organizing tournament you probably have no idea what it takes to run such an event like The Championship.

I hope this is clearing up your questions if not then sorry because it's all I have to say.

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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:48 pm

I didn't know a paying member was required to volunteer time ?
Is that the only way to get sympathy?

I didn't know I was asking for that =/

I am slightly offended to the way you decided to respond to my ..........
Question.

I for one was meaning no offense and believe this information was not
explained before.

I have more to say but will refrain as it may touch another nerve
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby IcePack on Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:11 pm

willedtowin1 wrote:I didn't know a paying member was required to volunteer time ?
Is that the only way to get sympathy?

I didn't know I was asking for that =/

I am slightly offended to the way you decided to respond to my ..........
Question.

I for one was meaning no offense and believe this information was not
explained before.

I have more to say but will refrain as it may touch another nerve


Nobody is "requiring" anyone to volunteer time.
However, the volunteers that are here have finite amounts of it themselves.
So it goes without saying without a volunteer, its unlikely to continue without someone else stepping up.
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:45 am

I understand and appreciate the withheld information IP.
But simply explaining the situation was all that was necessary.

There is no need for Mad to demean someone multiple times,
for not having the time or computer knowledge, by not volunteering.
Assuming I am a deadbeat member is not cool in my book.
I have been very involved in CC over the years in ways (just like Mad)
that go unnoticed.

I have always showed appreciation for the tourney organizers.

In Mad's defense......
His aggressive response may not only come from frustration,
but also in how the aggressive culture that CC has allowed many of the renegade members
to run amuck verbally.

I meant no Ill will and felt like I was pulling teeth to understand what the entire situation was.
Its a tourney that I feel would be a huge + for the active members of this site.
I cant and wont run the CC Championships.......
But as I said prior.... I will assist in the small ways I can


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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby xroads on Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:16 am

wow you sound like a millennial for sure

How was his response demeaning or aggressive?

He clearly stated that the mods are spread thinly (and work for free), and dont get much support from the field. Most like you just whine about it, and then push when they dont get the answer they want.
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:36 am

Clearly by stating I am looking for Sympathy
when I am only asking why..............

No need taking this out of context
I have a very good understanding
I am not whining :roll:
and Please don't make a mountain out of a mole hill here Sir


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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby Mad777 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:48 am

willedtowin1 wrote:I understand and appreciate the withheld information IP.
But simply explaining the situation was all that was necessary.

There is no need for Mad to demean someone multiple times,

I know my english is not that good not being my native language but after reading my 2 replies I can't see where I "demeaning someone", all I said is highlighted and quoted one of your statement that says you don't care about organizing tournament but in other hands you are asking again when this is coming back despite my 1st reply back in June 8th.

for not having the time or computer knowledge, by not volunteering.
Assuming I am a deadbeat member is not cool in my book.

This is coming from your own imagination, I never said anything like that and I can't see what would have push me to say such a word toward you, I still have all respect to all members here and that includes you.

I have been very involved in CC over the years in ways (just like Mad)
that go unnoticed.

I have always showed appreciation for the tourney organizers.

In Mad's defense......
His aggressive response may not only come from frustration,
but also in how the aggressive culture that CC has allowed many of the renegade members
to run amuck verbally.

I don't see any "agressivity" but more a direct response, I'm not that type of person who goes around to reply to someone, it is not mean to offense but to explain what I meant in few words.

I meant no Ill will and felt like I was pulling teeth to understand what the entire situation was.
Its a tourney that I feel would be a huge + for the active members of this site.
I cant and wont run the CC Championships.......
But as I said prior.... I will assist in the small ways I can

...and I will add that I fully agree what you pointed out as far the site benefit having that event back but without help from both members & technical then I just can't see it to happen soon.


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I hope I didn't offense you from this 3rd post and hope we are now clear on the topic you brought back in May 31st
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:56 am

as I said prior.... I will assist in the small ways I can
Thanks for your time Sir



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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby owenshooter on Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:21 am

willedtowin1 wrote:Clearly by stating I am looking for Symmetry
when I am only asking why..............


you can mostly find him in off topics or in the suggs forum. good luck with this. and luckily, not everyone has your shitty attitude concerning not having to volunteer their time, because they pay. wow. i have volunteered my time as a multi hunter, moderator, admin and even as an undercover newb looking for farmers (at the request of Andy...). i never balked at being asked to serve on community teams, etc... you don't really understand this site if you have that shitty attitude. maybe you should go to another online gaming site and bless them with your presence... the black jesus is disappointed by your millenial attitude...-Bj
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......?

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:54 am

It's very easy with electronic communication to give offense where none was intended. Email and fora combine the immediacy of speech with the power of the written word. It's easy to sound strident when you really didn't mean to. You can add emoticons and shit, but they have nowhere near the emotional warmth of real facial expressions.

Mad777 is an amazing workhorse. He pushes the tournament world forward all the time. His Madness in Rio series is quite possibly the single largest body of work by any tournament organizer ever, and at the same time he has made great strides with developing new and better autotournaments.

Willie is a workhorse in his own way. As deputy leader of OSA he's run many wars and pulled together all kinds of supporting data. He kept us together when benga pulled his disappearing act a couple years ago. The clan leaders and deputy clan leaders often do just as much work as the mods.

I don't think any offense was meant by either of them. I think we can all agree that we would love to see the Championships return, but there's just too much work for too few remaining tournament organizers. I remember we were considering restarting the Championships last October, but nobody had any time for it, so we pushed it to January, but nobody had any time for it then either, so we pushed it to April, and nobody had any time to spare in April, either, so in the end we just said f*ck it. The Championships will have to wait until the autotourney engine is upgraded to include team games. That's a frustrating element that never goes away. We'll see what next year brings.
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Re: Conquer Club Championships......WHEN?

Postby willedtowin1 on Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:41 pm

IcePack wrote:Those long tournaments you mention aren't run by the same group of people.

Olympics by Tribe TD
USA Supertournament by Community team
Great War by community team

So totally unrelated to the championships team. (Tournament directors) not really what "the ring leaders want" it's just different teams doing their thing.

If that team is having hard time you might consider volunteering to help the championships specifically



If that "Team" is having a hard time....why havent they asked?
IMO its simply "ignore it and it will go away" Mentality

So what you are really saying is the Championships are of the lowest priority
Sad to hear .............

Creating tourneys for the masses (Low rank) seems the only interest here anymore.
There are no tourneys to appease the higher ranked players.
Most of them wont play tourneys because of the many monkeys who create a clusterfxxx.
Seems only clan games and the rare few games higher ranked players create
are available...... Little Volume = Little Interest


I too am starting to lose interest in this site
After this post I am finished communicating my displeasure.
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