pathetic

[Ltrain]

I am editing this to add this part to the top: Not pathetic moderating. I won't delete it from my original post but after poking around the forums a bit, I understand that the moderators actually have been trying to crack down on as much as they can have control over, and my first thread broke one of those rules. My turnaround really came when I read this quote from the Black Jesus himself... " oddly enough, that sent you off on a tirade declaring i should die...which by the would, should have gotten you an instant ban as soon as the thread was locked and at least a 24 hour vacation... however, as usual, when i'm involved, the rules simply aren't the same"

Looks like they are pretty used to dealing with him then.

Anyway, my original pissed off thread:

JamesKer1:

"Locked and pending admin action.

This clearly is baiting, flaming, and a slew of other offenses."

this is what owenshooter does on a daily basis. I can't click on a thread I'm interested in without seeing him lead the thread into pointless off topic bickering and flaming and I can't address it without the thread getting locked? pathetic moderating. Have fun with your message board, I'll play the game and you guys can have your middle school love fest all to yourselves.

[mookiemcgee]

I thought your post was funny, and expressed a sentiment I think alot of other people were feeling

[mookiemcgee]

But he has as much of a right as anybody to say what he think too

[Ltrain]

I suppose it was poor judgement to say die already, but that's the only concession I will give. This guy is always right up front steering threads away from the thread starters intention, and as a result it makes me, and I'm sure others steer clear of the forums like I steer clear of Fox News. I hope he will eventually get the message and make the forums a more inviting place to be

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

If you have an issue with a user report them in the C&A forum, or flag their individual posts using the triangle ! button.

[owenshooter]

now... can you please tell me what part of this post that you complained about is not on topic? i showed the OP where a CURRENT and ongoing thread existed about the topic that he was too lazy to do a casual search... now, as far as your feelings towards me, they are entirely personal... if you think i'm breaking forum rules, hit the triangle on the post or put me into C&A...

How about this for "I dont give a shit & just going through the motions"

kind of like not searching to see if there is already a thread about the topic you want to vent on? *cough*...

Subject: Why arent random maps, "Random"?????

been a topic of conversation for quite some time... i'm right there with you... the black jesus has spoken..-Jésus noir

oddly enough, i even agreed with the OP, but you are so biased against me, you probably didn't even notice that... anyway, i hope you get a nice little ban for this... it has been quite some time since my last death threat... that kid ended up in the custody of the Canadian Mounties (he also threatened lackattackand Twill)... you are truly classy and i find your post highly ironic, given that you make complaints against me and then commit the ultimate forum foul... way to keep it classy!!! the black jesus is smiling down upon you!!-Jésus noir

p.s.-next time go the classic route, it is more effective

[Dukasaur]

I don't think the issue is about the points you make, which often are valid, but rather about the sneering tone you manage to frame them in.

90% of arguments are not about their putative substance, but about the participants' sense of being respected or disrespected.

[jbrettlip]

If sneering/tone was a ban able offense, this forum would be entirely empty. Isn't there a way to add someone so that you don't spree their posts? Almost every forum has that feature. To me, this just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining. If you are in a thread, and hate Jesus, simply skip past his post

[owenshooter]

If sneering/tone was a ban able offense, this forum would be entirely empty. Isn't there a way to add someone so that you don't spree their posts? Almost every forum has that feature. To me, this just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining. If you are in a thread, and hate Jesus, simply skip past his post

oh, you mean USE THE FOE feature? hmmmm... that would seem to be the perfect solution for him... however, the last person that openly declared their love for the foe feature for dealing with me in the forums, spiraled out of control and quit his job... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-public melt downs are very intersting...

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I don't think the issue is about the points you make, which often are valid, but rather about the sneering tone you manage to frame them in.

90% of arguments are not about their putative substance, but about the participants' sense of being respected or disrespected.

If you have an issue with a user please report them in the C&A forum or flag their posts.

[iAmCaffeine]

Did bW reinstate Flame Wars?

[Serbia]

If sneering/tone was a ban able offense, this forum would be entirely empty. Isn't there a way to add someone so that you don't spree their posts? Almost every forum has that feature. To me, this just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining. If you are in a thread, and hate Jesus, simply skip past his post

oh, you mean USE THE FOE feature? hmmmm... that would seem to be the perfect solution for him... however, the last person that openly declared their love for the foe feature for dealing with me in the forums, spiraled out of control and quit his job... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-public melt downs are very intersting...

Agree with all this. Ltrain, don't act like a dumbass, it's unbecoming. Use the foe feature, and rest your worried and bothered head.

Bollocks in 2015.

[owenshooter]

well, he isn't in Guests, so death threats must not be that big of a deal... you figure it would have been a 24 or 48 hour variety... usually, they put you in Guests and figure out what they are doing to keep from melting down even further in the forum... you know, like making a thread about your thread being locked... oh... oops... that kind of happened... hmmmm... i don't really know how they do it around here anymore...-Jésus noir

[Ltrain]

No I'm not in guests. I don't know what that means. Saying someone is melting down in the forum doesn't make it true, buddy.

When someone constantly directs the nature of a thread down into the toilet, foeing them doesn't solve the problem, now does it?

Look, I've made my point not much else to say except this: I looked at your ratings today. You clearly know how to be pleasant and friendly in your games. Why not just apply that to the forums?

[owenshooter]

Look, I've made my point not much else to say except this: I looked at your ratings today. You clearly know how to be pleasant and friendly in your games. Why not just apply that to the forums?

i posted the example of the thread that so upset you... i pointed the OP to a thread that already existed that he could have searched for... linked the thread... even said i agreed with him... oddly enough, that sent you off on a tirade declaring i should die... which by the would, should have gotten you an instant ban as soon as the thread was locked and at least a 24 hour vacation... however, as usual, when i'm involved, the rules simply aren't the same... get some thicker skin, learn people personalities, figure out how the forums work... you truly let things affect you in too great a way...

i always find it amusing when people think these forums are harsh (i see the old timers chuckling)... and i have never gone so far as to post about a person dying, you crossed a serious line and did something far worse and more egregious than i ever did... i posted about mods faking deaths, which was true... i posted about a mod having a mental issue, which was true... but i never posted that someone should die... you crossed a very serious line and any criticism you have for me is pretty much negated by that single action, because it is so gross and disgusting...

i'm the same i've always been... if you have an issue, throw me in C&A or report my posts... oddly enough, new forum goers reach out to me all the time for help and guidance in PM's and i always answer... you need to really get a grip and figure out what is schtick and what is real... wishing death upon someone is truly disgusting and i hope you realize how truly disgusting it was...-Jésus noir

[Ltrain]

Do you take your message board tips from conservative radio? Express fake outrage over something that was clearly not intended as such, and clog the airwaves with your bullshit?

The best thing about all this that you, the self appointed message board policeman, did not even notice that the thread you linked in Xroads' thread to make your "dude we already had a thread about this" point was in fact, another thread made BY THE SAME GUY YOU WERE CALLING OUT!

[owenshooter]

did not even notice that the thread you linked in Xroads' thread to make your "dude we already had a thread about this" point was in fact, another thread made BY THE SAME GUY YOU WERE CALLING OUT!

soooo, you mean to say, he broke a forum rule by posting a duplicate thread of a thread he had already made, and was too lazy to search for? a 4 page, 84 post thread that he himself created and was too lazy to post in? um... ok... your point is very clear... you just keep making yourself look worse... do you understand how the forums work? you start a topic like "why are maps random", and people post in that thread... now, when you want to make ANOTHER comment about maps not being random, you go back to that thread and post in it again!! you don't start a new thread, because you are simply too lazy to search for the old one...

and sorry, it isn't fake outrage... you should be on a forum vacation... you crossed a line and it should be dealt with... appropriate admins were contacted with my concerns... i don't find stating that members should die in a flame/bait thread, amusing... i'm glad you do, because it is disgusting...-Jésus noir

[DaGip]

You can kill the Black Jesus...but don't you fucking DARE touch the Honibaz!

[zsp]

If sneering/tone was a ban able offense, this forum would be entirely empty. Isn't there a way to add someone so that you don't spree their posts? Almost every forum has that feature. To me, this just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining. If you are in a thread, and hate Jesus, simply skip past his post

oh, you mean USE THE FOE feature? hmmmm... that would seem to be the perfect solution for him... however, the last person that openly declared their love for the foe feature for dealing with me in the forums, spiraled out of control and quit his job... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-public melt downs are very intersting...

Agree with all this. Ltrain, don't act like a dumbass, it's unbecoming. Use the foe feature, and rest your worried and bothered head.

Bollocks in 2015.

My lord, Serbia.

The amount of times I've seen you rush to your dear master Owen's defense in my short return tenure here is borderline unbearable.

Calm yourself, Wormtongue!

[Ltrain]

did not even notice that the thread you linked in Xroads' thread to make your "dude we already had a thread about this" point was in fact, another thread made BY THE SAME GUY YOU WERE CALLING OUT!

soooo, you mean to say, he broke a forum rule by posting a duplicate thread of a thread he had already made, and was too lazy to search for? a 4 page, 84 post thread that he himself created and was too lazy to post in? um... ok... your point is very clear... you just keep making yourself look worse... do you understand how the forums work? you start a topic like "why are maps random", and people post in that thread... now, when you want to make ANOTHER comment about maps not being random, you go back to that thread and post in it again!! you don't start a new thread, because you are simply too lazy to search for the old one...

and sorry, it isn't fake outrage... you should be on a forum vacation... you crossed a line and it should be dealt with... appropriate admins were contacted with my concerns... i don't find stating that members should die in a flame/bait thread, amusing... i'm glad you do, because it is disgusting...-Jésus noir

So Xroads started a new thread similar to a thread he already made. I just find it funny that you, Mr. Forum moderator (edit) without the actual title (hmm I wonder why) didn't notice this yourself. You took the time to search for a thread similar to the one Xroads had made with the sole purpose of making him look stupid, and didn't even notice that he had made the old thread you were referencing. Even you have to see the hilarious irony there.

[eddie2]

A thread that starts in feb and has its last post on 17 july. With over 80 posts. Owen himself was posting in that thread, So to say he searched to find a thread to pull someone up for posting a new one about the same thing is wrong(even more so because like you say they had same op). That original thread had a good convo going on in it. Ow and ps ltrain i do not see xroads complaining about owens comment (or anybody else in the thread.) i also do not see that thread going offtopic (apart from chat about dice which owen didnt bring up). So sorry of all examples you could of used the one you have makes you look silly. Because 1. there was a active thread from the op talking about it already. 2. The new thread didnt go offtopic. So everything you accused him off is not shown in your example.

[Ltrain]

A thread that starts in feb and has its last post on 17 july. With over 80 posts. Owen himself was posting in that thread, So to say he searched to find a thread to pull someone up for posting a new one about the same thing is wrong(even more so because like you say they had same op). That original thread had a good convo going on in it. Ow and ps ltrain i do not see xroads complaining about owens comment (or anybody else in the thread.) i also do not see that thread going offtopic (apart from chat about dice which owen didnt bring up). So sorry of all examples you could of used the one you have makes you look silly. Because 1. there was a active thread from the op talking about it already. 2. The new thread didnt go offtopic. So everything you accused him off is not shown in your example.

No, this is my (waste of time) crusade, not Xroads, and he is not a friend of mine nor an enemy. He has learned to ignore the bs apparently. I'm not around enough. Owen was in the original thread, and if you read it, page three and four are all just flames, and can you guess who was in the middle of the scrum?

So Xroads clearly started a new thread to get the convo going again. and to say the convo managed to stay on topic in spite of Owen's worst intentions is not really helping your forum buddy out. Also find it funny that he just bumped the thread no one has posted on in over a month with an attempt to show some recent on topic conversation.

Well, it's been fun. I really hope you guys are in high school. That would be about the only thing that would make me feel dumb at this point.

[owenshooter]

Owen was in the original thread, and if you read it, page three and four are all just flames, and can you guess who was in the middle of the scrum?

hmmm... i see about 6 people involved in what you consider flaming... but apparently it is just me... even one EX-community volunteer, who was still a volunteer at the time... i'm sorry, i just don't really think you understand what a flame is... and again, you lost all credibility when you issued a death threat to a member in the forums. what you did was far worse than a few adults that are familiar with each other, having some fun... you have to remember, many of us have been going at in the forums for 8 or more years... get over it, you just don't seem to understand the nuances of the culture of this particular portion of the forum... the black jesus has spoken (and surely you will also consider this all a flame *eyes rolling)...-Jésus noir

p.s.-seriously, you lost any ground to stand on when complaining about others with your little death threat that you made...

[eddie2]

Ok not going to read them comments. Because thats not what your complaint was about. It was about that one post in the new thread (ps you hade no posts in) and calling us old forum buddys i call bullshit on that. We used to argue like crap. Also owen has to be the only person on cc that had a forum ban and all reg forum user had a countdown for his return. Also calling us high school kids when you posted that in a thread then added the mod who locked it into this complaint, and had the audacity to (like i said call us kids) Go get your pacifier and cry to your mum like the 2 year old you are acting like.