FORMING: Jolly Ranchers - non-competitive

[Denise]

Ranching is poor sportsmanship. Just like not condoning any group that promotes farming, even the practice of ranching, or whatever some of you would call it, though it is not against the rules as of now, will also not be condoned or endorsed as a usergroup or clan, be it jolly or not.

[eddie2]

Ranching is poor sportsmanship. Just like not condoning any group that promotes farming, even the practice of ranching, or whatever some of you would call it, though it is not against the rules as of now, will also not be condoned or endorsed as a usergroup or clan, be it jolly or not.

+2

[lanyards]

Ranching is poor sportsmanship. Just like not condoning any group that promotes farming, even the practice of ranching, or whatever some of you would call it, though it is not against the rules as of now, will also not be condoned or endorsed as a usergroup or clan, be it jolly or not.

You said it yourself. Farming is against the rules, usergroups devoted to farming are not allowed. Ranching, which is an inconsistent term that could mean anything really, is perfectly permissible, however this usergroup is not?

ljex asked why, and other than your opinion that whatever you think ranching is to be poor sportsmanship, you didn't really answer anything...except distinguishing farming as off limits and this as not, and then contradicting the rules.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you did a poor job of answering why and mostly avoided the question.

If what it comes down to is that your an admin and what you say goes, so be it. I'll respect that, but I'm also curious what the problem is.

[Bones2484]

How about you check the GLG C&A thread where Lackattack said today that they are actively working to put a stop to ranching because he doesn't "like it either when our Conqueror gets his points from cheap tactics".

Is that clear enough for you?

[ljex]

Ranching is poor sportsmanship. Just like not condoning any group that promotes farming, even the practice of ranching, or whatever some of you would call it, though it is not against the rules as of now, will also not be condoned or endorsed as a usergroup or clan, be it jolly or not.

okay good enough reason...i agree just curious if cc had a reason more than just they didnt want it to get started

[lanyards]

How about you check the GLG C&A thread where Lackattack said today that they are actively working to put a stop to ranching because he doesn't "like it either when our Conqueror gets his points from cheap tactics".

Is that clear enough for you?

I hadn't read that but yes I guess so. As I said, I understand if this wasn't allowed due to the administration having a problem with it but it was my understanding they didn't.

And no need for hostility bonezor.

[Bones2484]

And no need for hostility bonezor.

Sorry, maxastuy. Didn't mean to offend.

[lanyards]

Wow. Alright, well I recanted, and there's nothing more going on here other than trolling and baiting, so lock 'er up!

[macbone]

Excellent decision from the admins here.

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

with all due respect. . .

1)Ranching is currently legal, and so should be allowed until new rules evolve.
2)Calling Ranching Poor Sportsmanship sorta sounds like Baiting/flaming to me -- but I'm sorta new here
3)Ranching is PURELY managing risk. Like life insurance.
4)claims by detractors of hordes Cooks/Cadets is exaggerating/lieing.
5)if going to eliminate Ranching, better to elimiate CLickies for FS/speed against non-clickies

I have it on good authority by my legal counsel "the bush master" that his law firm can win a HUGE Civil Rights violations case for me on this.

Would "Herders of the Blind Sheep" be a better SOCIAL clan name? willing to work with management

GLG

PS: why does CC bother to enforce rules NOT in existence, but not fairly enforce current bait/flame/troll rules?

[Chariot of Fire]

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.

So with this non-specific clause which can cover pretty much anything that is done on CC it could be deemed that bogrolling (formerly 'ranching') is a gross abuse of the game. Whilst its practitioners may apparently continue to escape censure, the administration can at least apply some common sense and not have them flaunt it in people's faces. The upholding of the following may be applied if bogrolling is seen to be a breach of unwritten rules:

Forum Guidelines

Posting in the forum is a privilege, not a right. If you want to continue to keep this privilege, play by the rules.

in addition to:

If a mod or admin specifically say you shouldn't be doing something, regardless of if it's specifically spelled out in the rules, or if you think that they are stupid, it still means don't do it.

So for a forum dedicated to bogrolling perhaps its advocates should go to a more appropriate site, e.g. http://www.pieceofshit.com

[aad0906]

I am amazed that this player thinks he can read minds. He claims it's to target Cooks and Cadets -- but I've played neither (or few of) in a LONG time. Then he baits/flames KoRT when saying he isn't? Request he troll elsewhere.

He wasn't trolling, he was wishing you good luck. Maybe he was mistaken about the cooks and cadets as you seem to focus on privates.

[QoH]

with all due respect. . .

1)Ranching is currently legal, and so should be allowed until new rules evolve.
Allowed, maybe, but condoned? Admin have said this quite clearly. No.
2)Calling Ranching Poor Sportsmanship sorta sounds like Baiting/flaming to me -- but I'm sorta new here
Not really.
3)Ranching is PURELY managing risk. Like life insurance.
Does that automatically make it ok?
4)claims by detractors of hordes Cooks/Cadets is exaggerating/lieing.
Not when that's what the majority of your games are, whether past, present or who you plan on playing.
5)if going to eliminate Ranching, better to elimiate CLickies for FS/speed against non-clickies
2 different things. You can 2 different FS masters play each other. Why ruin it for them?

I have it on good authority by my legal counsel "the bush master" that his law firm can win a HUGE Civil Rights violations case for me on this.

Would "Herders of the Blind Sheep" be a better SOCIAL clan name? willing to work with management
Nope.

GLG

PS: why does CC bother to enforce rules NOT in existence, but not fairly enforce current bait/flame/troll rules?
You know I've wondered that myself. I'm still waiting for your deserved ban, as you do just as much baiting and flaming around here.

Since GLG has me on foe, I don't think he'll read this. Oh well. There goes 2 mins of my life I'll never get back.

[Swimmerdude99]

Me and Jsnyder are buds... to be honest I'm wanting in just to have "Jolly Ranchers" in my groups dropdown XD

[Chariot of Fire]

Me and Jsnyder are buds... to be honest I'm wanting in just to have "Jolly Ranchers" in my groups dropdown XD

Mate, the only thing that would drop down is the high esteem in which I've held you.

[hmsps]

Sorry but this group is not happening.

Common sense prevails

[jsnyder748]

Sorry but this group is not happening.

Common sense prevails

lol seriously this makes no sense to me....this whole website is screwed up. Common sense was lost long ago. This strategy has been around as long as ther has been a conquerer.....i play almost all open games and i play settings i will beat other good teams on regardless of if they join or not. hmsps, you have even joined quite a few of my quads games...

[Crazyirishman]

Sorry but imma a lil slow round heer, can someone splain to me how these ranchers are so jolly?

Also GLG, you should be ashamed of yourself and I though you would have learned by now to not associate your tactics with the agriculture industry. I had high hopes that you had learned and adjusted based on this post, but yet again you leave me here crushed picking up the shattered pieces of my heart as I think about how my fellow ranching brothers who I grew up with will be looked down upon, when in reality they provide for the greater good.

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

dog gone it, I forgot to include the MOST IMPORTANT THING.

I tentatively lined up JOLLY RANCHERS candy company as sponsor with:
-5 yr prepaid memberships for official members -- approved by GLG
-1000 free memberships for underprivileged opponents -- approved by our JR clan board
-1 yr supply of Jolly Ranchers candies for all official members
-120 free memberships to offer as prizes for tournaments (10/mo) bearing the Jolly Ranchers name

Admin missed the boat on this one. Shoot, I think that's more memberships than the peanut gallery would lose.

Well there's always Preparation-H to sponsor my ol' buddy K-Her's next "duz yer butt hurt?" clan. . .or Pillsbury to sponsor Baker's Dozen

I may have to find another site to use my Marketing Skills at.

[hmsps]

Sorry but this group is not happening.

Common sense prevails

lol seriously this makes no sense to me....this whole website is screwed up. Common sense was lost long ago. This strategy has been around as long as ther has been a conquerer.....i play almost all open games and i play settings i will beat other good teams on regardless of if they join or not. hmsps, you have even joined quite a few of my quads games...

If there is anything u don't understand, feel free to drop me a pm and talk it through. Am actually quite surprised that u would associate yourself with ranching or whatever u want to call it as you didn't seem the type. A lot of the games u set up are competitive (all of mine are) so couldn't see ur point on me joining some of your games. You are more than welcome to bring your teams and join mine.

[NoSurvivors]

GLG, finally found the thread LMAO sorry for the long wait, In please

[rhp 1]

OBVIOUSLY in... duh...

[QoH]

For all those people who keep saying "in" this ain't happening. Or at least, didn't KA say that?

[jgordon1111]

For all the in's I believe GLG has started a new one PAP, Got a different twist about ranching. Actually GLG says he is reforming and would now like a group of like minded players to discuss the demise of ranching and other things

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

Fellow players, please join me in singing:

Kum ba yah, my lack, kum ba yah. Kum ba ya, my lack, kum ba ya. Kum ba yah, my lack, kum ba ya. Oh, Lack, kum ba yah.

Someone's Ranching, lack, kum ba yah. Someone's Flaming, lack, kum ba yah. Someone's Baiting, lack, kum ba yah. Oh Lack, kum ba ya.

We're reforming, lackm kum ba yah. Tho we're legal, lack, kum ba yah. Stop the flaming, lack, kum ba yah. Oh Lack, kum ba ya.

Now have a Coke and a smile