Clan Challenges and What Happens

[GrimReaper.]

I thought this thread might be helpful for clan leaders issueing or accepting their first clan challenge.
Plz pm me if something needs to be changed.
I thought twill's was a bit of a rush put together so i made a more detailed one

Here is what Twill has to say

Some clans are all about the challenges, others are not. This forum is for those clans who are.

If you think your clan has what it takes, make a challenge here.

Open challenges, specific challenges, leagues, cherry spitting contests. If it involves who has the larger dice, start it here.

Couple of quick suggestions -

Make it clear who is challenging whom

We will beat you!

This doesn't mean much and might not get the attention of those you want it to.

THOTA challenges The Untouchables to Feudal War domination!

This gets the message across faster, and might attract the Dragoons to jump in.



Throw the current record in there

[5-1]Pleasant Chaps have bigger balls than the BulletProof Bandits

If you're winning, let people know



Use 1 thread for each challenge

The more challenges, the more exposure you get, but if you start 10 threads for 1 challenge, it's just going to annoy people and they will probably just get merged



Have fun

Why else are you here?






Let the banter begin
Twill

Here is is what i have to say.


Clan Challenges: Behind the Scenes/ Preparing for War

Step 1 The challenge
A clan Leader issues a challenge to another clan. The opposing clan can either accept or deny the challenge.

Then The clan leaders collaborate on the details of the clan challenge. For example Number of Games in the challenge (Minimum is 20) types of games, and settings of the games, what games will be considered home and away.

If you are the challenger you should have your team(s) ready to go and know what map settings you want.
If you are the Challengee you need to know at all times who you will send out to play and what maps you need to have in the challenge.
Remember: The challenger always has the advantage of preparing for the challenge before announcing it.
To avoid a surprise challenge keep your clan sharp and ready to go.
The matches should be divided in half (in a 20 game challenge 10 would be home and 10 would be away)
Usually you get to choose your home games map and settings.

Clan Challenges: War Time
Now that both clan leaders have agreed on game types, number of games, and decided who will be sent to battle it's time for the games for begin.

By now you or the opposing clan leader should have put a thread in the http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=274
here is what it should look like:

We have accepted a challenge from The Untouchables.
Games: 10 doubs, 6 trips, 4 quads each - for a total of 40 games
Agreed Restrictions: No "beta" maps, freestyle, speed, flat rate or unlimited forts

Legends of War : 16
The Untouchables : 8

LoW doubles

1. Game 3353895 - Waterloo, no cards, chained, foggy - TUC WIN
2. Game 3361278 - Seige!, no cards, adjacent, foggy - TUC WIN
3. Game 3351896 - Rail USA, no cards, adjacent, sunny - LoW WIN
4. Game 3352897 - Alexander's Empire, no cards, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
5. Game 3352126 - Berlin, no cards, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
6. Game 3350397 - Germany, escalating, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
7. Game 3336219 - CCC, no cards, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
8. Game 3336797 - WWII Gazala, no cards, chained, foggy - LoW WIN
9. Game 3352267 - Age of Merchants, no cards, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
10. Game 3350020 - Age of Merchants, no cards, chained, foggy - TUC WIN

TUC doubles

11. Game 3444028 - Berlin 1961, no cards, adjacent, foggy - TUC WIN
12. Game 3444568 - Pearl Harbor, escalating, adjacent, foggy - LoW WIN
13. Game 3443175 - Age Of Realms 3, no cards, chained, foggy - TUC WIN
14. Game 3449245 - Battle for Iraq!, escalating, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
15. Game 3449484 - Age of Realms 1, escalating, adjacent, foggy - TUC WIN
16. Game 3449727 - New World, escalating, chained, foggy - LoW WIN
17. Game 3449770 - Feudal Wars - no cards, adjacent, sunny - LoW WIN
18. Game 3453396 - Indochina, no cards, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
19. Game 3451860 - Iberia - no cards, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
20. Game 3453779 - Sydney Metro - no cards, chained, sunny - TUC WIN

TUC triples

21. Game 3539707 - Feudal Wars, no spoils, adjacent, foggy - TUC WIN
22. Game 3579106 - Waterloo - no spoils, chained, foggy - LoW WIN
23. Game 3581216 - Battle of Actium, no spoils, chained, sunny - LoW WIN
24. Game 3655693 - AoR2, no spoils, chained, foggy - LoW WIN
25. [game][/game]
26. [game][/game]

Also you should keep the thread title updated. For Example:

Agents of Chaos v.s. Legion of the Damned (10-10)
Post whether YOUR game was one or lost and also post the game number(s)

Clan Challenges: Post War; Licking your Wounds

After all games are finished tally up the final score and put it in the title or your thread on who one and the score.
you or the other clan leader should then contact the following people.

MarVal he will archive your challenge and put in the following thread: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=64025

Jpcloet he will update the standings in the following thread: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=65969


What Jp has to say

This is a good start, the Clan Directors are working on a clan handbook that will be stickied.

Other things to consider:

Clan challenges should be issued first by pm before announced publicly. Often clans will already have their next challenge lined up so you may have to wait. The public thread should simply be a confirmation of all items agreed to. A standard challenge pm format has been discussed.

There is no minimum challenge size. 20 is the current requirement to be included in the Unofficial clan ladder.

The challenge threads take all shapes and forms and more clans are using the format which continues to evolve eg.

Legends of War vs Legion of the Damned [15-15] of 50
and
Legends of War vs Legion of the Damned [25-25] FINAL

The one thing that I would like to see added is:

1. The first few posts should detail who the primary and secondary contacts for both clans are in the challenge.

2. Once the games are decided upon, say 20 doubles each, to formalize a time line for delivering the games.

Eg. LOD 10 doubles by Jan 17th, 2009 and 10 doubles by Jan 31st, 2009

3. Both sides don't have to bring the same games to the table. Often you see something like 20 doubles each. A few challenges have seen mixed setups like

5 Singles5 (Best of 5 1v1)
1 Doubles
1 Triples
1 Quads
and 7 other "Team Games" to be determined at the discretion of the home team.

4. The common method is 1 point per game or 1 point per Singles5. Get creative, there have been a few games where the games are worth more or less

5. Be flexible in your agreements. Having a fixed roster has not worked well in the past. However, having 1 or 2 players play in most games reduces the feel of a clan war versus the feel of a personal army.

6. Realize that mistakes happen and learn from them. I've created Standard games that were supposed to be doubles. Games have expired and had to be recreated.

That's all I got for now. More to come....

[GrimReaper.]

can this get stickied?

[jpcloet]

This is a good start, the Clan Directors are working on a clan handbook that will be stickied.

Other things to consider:

Clan challenges should be issued first by pm before announced publicly. Often clans will already have their next challenge lined up so you may have to wait. The public thread should simply be a confirmation of all items agreed to. A standard challenge pm format has been discussed.

There is no minimum challenge size. 20 is the current requirement to be included in the Unofficial clan ladder.

The challenge threads take all shapes and forms and more clans are using the format which continues to evolve eg.

Legends of War vs Legion of the Damned [15-15] of 50
and
Legends of War vs Legion of the Damned [25-25] FINAL

The one thing that I would like to see added is:

1. The first few posts should detail who the primary and secondary contacts for both clans are in the challenge.

2. Once the games are decided upon, say 20 doubles each, to formalize a time line for delivering the games.

Eg. LOD 10 doubles by Jan 17th, 2009 and 10 doubles by Jan 31st, 2009

3. Both sides don't have to bring the same games to the table. Often you see something like 20 doubles each. A few challenges have seen mixed setups like

5 Singles5 (Best of 5 1v1)
1 Doubles
1 Triples
1 Quads
and 7 other "Team Games" to be determined at the discretion of the home team.

4. The common method is 1 point per game or 1 point per Singles5. Get creative, there have been a few games where the games are worth more or less

5. Be flexible in your agreements. Having a fixed roster has not worked well in the past. However, having 1 or 2 players play in most games reduces the feel of a clan war versus the feel of a personal army.

6. Realize that mistakes happen and learn from them. I've created Standard games that were supposed to be doubles. Games have expired and had to be recreated.

That's all I got for now. More to come....

[SuicidalSnowman]

Hey Grim, always love your enthusiasm, but I think someone with a little more experience might be better prepared to write this. Perhaps you could solicit ideas/additions/corrections in this thread and then prepare a final draft from that.

Best of luck.

*EDIT : FASTPOSTED : See, there are some already. I bet there is even more you might like to include.

[GrimReaper.]

u know what jp thats great!!!
ill add it up there

[GrimReaper.]

Hey Grim, always love your enthusiasm, but I think someone with a little more experience might be better prepared to write this. Perhaps you could solicit ideas/additions/corrections in this thread and then prepare a final draft from that.

Best of luck.

*EDIT : FASTPOSTED : See, there are some already. I bet there is even more you might like to include.

from observing the obvious i posted what i knew (this isnt really meant to be official just a guideline

[jpcloet]

It's always good to know what others get from what is posted in this forum. As a new leader, what other types of guides would be useful? I know you've pm'd me a few times, would having a clan leader mentor help?

[GrimReaper.]

It's always good to know what others get from what is posted in this forum. As a new leader, what other types of guides would be useful? I know you've pm'd me a few times, would having a clan leader mentor help?

you have no idea how that would help. A leader from another competitive can. They dont have to participate just observe and give advice for them to get on their feet.
something i could use

EDIT: Jp you are the Godfather of Clans

[GrimReaper.]

i think the first ten things you should do once ur forum is up and running (i.e. rules, 1vs1 tourneys, roster ect.)

have it pm ed to all new competitive clan leaders.

u know things of that nature.