General Clan Announcement
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:38 am
Clan World:
We have a new Head Clan Director and he is doing a bang up job. I brought this idea to him a little while ago and after discussions he agreed that this is something he supports. The theory being that if we are going to have a “farming” policy it should be one that is well defined and easy to follow. Accordingly, we would like to correct a mistake.
There have been two clan wars in the history of CC where the winning clan members were denied medals for “farming”. The first was Empire versus The Last Warriors (TLW). The second was The Odd Fellows Union (TOFU) versus The Fourth Crusade (T4C) nka The New Crusade (TNC). Both wars were mildly lopsided in their final result. However, both wars had very nice and courteous threads with all clans enjoying the experience.
The clans also risked a lot to be a part of those wars. Empire and TOFU risked their high rankings to fight such new clans. T4C and TLW risked that they would get absolutely demoralized and crushed by such experienced clans to the point where they would have to fold. Thus, there was a risk taken by all involved.
Some argue that we need to have farming rule in place to discourage medal hunting and to discourage old, experienced clans from beating up on every new, inexperienced clans in that fear that new clans won’t enjoy the clan experience and fold soon after their entry onto the clan scene. These two wars disprove the accuracy of these arguments. If you peruse the threads for both wars you will see that all the clans involved had fun. The winning clans, upon being informed that they were not getting medals, took any anger they had out on decision-makers and not the other clans. Finally, both T4C (TNC) and TLW are both still alive and kicking! Both have substantially the same players and are both moving their way up the clan rankings. How is the argument that their challenges against Empire and TOFU were a bad thing for CC even close to tenable at this point?
Finally, the implication that a clan is capable of being farmed is absolutely insulting. A huge loss to an experienced clan may be embarrassing, but it pales in comparison to the embarrassment of having someone else deem the experienced clan’s victory farming. This implies that these clans were so weak that they had no right to be on the same battlefield as the victorious clans. Tell that to TNC and TLW right now!
We have corresponded with leaders from both TNC and TLW. Both leaders agreed that the winning clans in these challenges deserve medals. After all, we would have awarded them medals had they won. We did not correspond with anyone from Empire or TOFU. We felt that it was neither necessary nor appropriate.
Accordingly, we have issued Clan Achievement Medals to the qualifying members of both TOFU and Empire for these wars. It should be noted that this action was not taken lightly or as an attempt to undermine prior Head Clan Directors. We have the benefit of hindsight. Jpcloet could not have seen this far into the future and Masli simply did not have the time to address this issue. This action also does not foreclose the possibility of a well-defined “farming” rule being implemented and utilized in the future. All this action does, in our humble opinion, is correct a mistake and enables us to define a more defined “farming” rule in the future.
Cheers,
The Clan Directors
We have a new Head Clan Director and he is doing a bang up job. I brought this idea to him a little while ago and after discussions he agreed that this is something he supports. The theory being that if we are going to have a “farming” policy it should be one that is well defined and easy to follow. Accordingly, we would like to correct a mistake.
There have been two clan wars in the history of CC where the winning clan members were denied medals for “farming”. The first was Empire versus The Last Warriors (TLW). The second was The Odd Fellows Union (TOFU) versus The Fourth Crusade (T4C) nka The New Crusade (TNC). Both wars were mildly lopsided in their final result. However, both wars had very nice and courteous threads with all clans enjoying the experience.
The clans also risked a lot to be a part of those wars. Empire and TOFU risked their high rankings to fight such new clans. T4C and TLW risked that they would get absolutely demoralized and crushed by such experienced clans to the point where they would have to fold. Thus, there was a risk taken by all involved.
Some argue that we need to have farming rule in place to discourage medal hunting and to discourage old, experienced clans from beating up on every new, inexperienced clans in that fear that new clans won’t enjoy the clan experience and fold soon after their entry onto the clan scene. These two wars disprove the accuracy of these arguments. If you peruse the threads for both wars you will see that all the clans involved had fun. The winning clans, upon being informed that they were not getting medals, took any anger they had out on decision-makers and not the other clans. Finally, both T4C (TNC) and TLW are both still alive and kicking! Both have substantially the same players and are both moving their way up the clan rankings. How is the argument that their challenges against Empire and TOFU were a bad thing for CC even close to tenable at this point?
Finally, the implication that a clan is capable of being farmed is absolutely insulting. A huge loss to an experienced clan may be embarrassing, but it pales in comparison to the embarrassment of having someone else deem the experienced clan’s victory farming. This implies that these clans were so weak that they had no right to be on the same battlefield as the victorious clans. Tell that to TNC and TLW right now!
We have corresponded with leaders from both TNC and TLW. Both leaders agreed that the winning clans in these challenges deserve medals. After all, we would have awarded them medals had they won. We did not correspond with anyone from Empire or TOFU. We felt that it was neither necessary nor appropriate.
Accordingly, we have issued Clan Achievement Medals to the qualifying members of both TOFU and Empire for these wars. It should be noted that this action was not taken lightly or as an attempt to undermine prior Head Clan Directors. We have the benefit of hindsight. Jpcloet could not have seen this far into the future and Masli simply did not have the time to address this issue. This action also does not foreclose the possibility of a well-defined “farming” rule being implemented and utilized in the future. All this action does, in our humble opinion, is correct a mistake and enables us to define a more defined “farming” rule in the future.
Cheers,
The Clan Directors