F400 Clan Ranking - Needs Repair

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[kuma32478]

AQoH Beats VVV - 29 to 12

Last game - Game 12687883

[patrickaa317]

I didn't see a response on this

To be a pain in the butt, can I ask to see what happens to TNC if the PACK war wouldve been completed in time for the 06-01 f-400?

22-19 win

And with TFFS win over OSA if you would please. http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=441&t=188649 I believe it'll be 39-35 scorewise, not sure if that is what is put in the stats or not.

[benga]

I didn't see a response on this

To be a pain in the butt, can I ask to see what happens to TNC if the PACK war wouldve been completed in time for the 06-01 f-400?

22-19 win

And with TFFS win over OSA if you would please. http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=441&t=188649 I believe it'll be 39-35 scorewise, not sure if that is what is put in the stats or not.

War still not over, don't worry we will post it when it does

[Chariot of Fire]

I love all that IcePack does for the F400 and have been very appreciative of the time he has invested and the regularity with which the chart is updated. However, when the latest ladder appears in The Dispatch - thus by all intents and purposes making it 'official' - I struggle with the fact there is no data from which any of us can verify the results that were used to compute the latest update. It used to be that one could, i.e. an update would be done and the various scores from the latest period would be shown in the OP. Now I find I'm just having to take his word for it that it is all done properly and that there are no omissions. The previous system at least allowed clans an opportunity to cross-check their own records against those computed by Ice. Why the change?

[patrickaa317]

I didn't see a response on this

To be a pain in the butt, can I ask to see what happens to TNC if the PACK war wouldve been completed in time for the 06-01 f-400?

22-19 win

And with TFFS win over OSA if you would please. http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=441&t=188649 I believe it'll be 39-35 scorewise, not sure if that is what is put in the stats or not.

War still not over, don't worry we will post it when it does

Right, this was just a request to see how rankings would look if war finished a few days ago.

[IcePack]

I love all that IcePack does for the F400 and have been very appreciative of the time he has invested and the regularity with which the chart is updated.

Thanks, I'm glad people are getting to see it more often too.

However, when the latest ladder appears in The Dispatch - thus by all intents and purposes making it 'official'

Something being placed in the Dispatch does not = "making it official". Lots of opinion or commentary is submitted through Dispatch, just changed the venue for releasing it from this thread to Dispatch (and then is reposted here at a later date). But, this is not that important one way or the other. To me, it was a venue change which helps promote CC as a whole and bring interest / attention to other area's of the site.

I struggle with the fact there is no data from which any of us can verify the results that were used to compute the latest update. It used to be that one could, i.e. an update would be done and the various scores from the latest period would be shown in the OP.

You've mentioned this before, and as I've previously stated nothing has changed. I regularly update at the same time as the F400 is done / posted.
Occassionally, I've missed changing the date but updated the list. This particular update, I was up late making the update so that it could go out on time and when I completed, I went to bed. I had spent a little time contemplating the best way forward to give a "short version" or "recent version" as discussed in this very thread, but I hadn't settled on anything so it was just to be a standard info update.

Now I find I'm just having to take his word for it that it is all done properly and that there are no omissions. The previous system at least allowed clans an opportunity to cross-check their own records against those computed by Ice. Why the change?

Aren't you retiring? (JK in case that wasn't obvious) But seriously, I'm not out to get anybody. I don't know why you have such fear / heartburn that "my word" isn't any good. I understand the issue with possible omissions, but generally speaking this HAS been updated and available for everybody's use. There has been no change "to the system" and you'll still get to cross check to your hearts content.

I would suggest two things.
1) Relax - I do my very best to update timely for everyone's enjoyment and answer all questions, without missing any details. Occasionally, something might get missed. I apologize profusely ahead of time, and ask
2) In the future, if you think something maybe amuck, or something is missing perhaps you could save yourself some time and turn this:

I love all that IcePack does for the F400 and have been very appreciative of the time he has invested and the regularity with which the chart is updated. However, when the latest ladder appears in The Dispatch - thus by all intents and purposes making it 'official' - I struggle with the fact there is no data from which any of us can verify the results that were used to compute the latest update. It used to be that one could, i.e. an update would be done and the various scores from the latest period would be shown in the OP. Now I find I'm just having to take his word for it that it is all done properly and that there are no omissions. The previous system at least allowed clans an opportunity to cross-check their own records against those computed by Ice. Why the change?

Into this: (via PM)

Hey ice I noticed you forgot the war data update. perhaps you could double check,, ithink you might have missed it

That being said, it'll get updated.

IcePack

[Dako]

Random League. TFFS-TOFU 6-6, Jun 4th.

[Bruceswar]

Ice I think what he means is people make mistakes and you should post the data so we all can look over it and see if it is all correct. More eyes are better.

[chapcrap]

More eyes are better.

[Chariot of Fire]

Ice I think what he means is people make mistakes and you should post the data so we all can look over it and see if it is all correct. More eyes are better.

Yes, this. I know we had a 14-2 winning result to go in the latest update but we still lost points. Maybe there are results I'm not seeing.

[Bruceswar]

Ice I think what he means is people make mistakes and you should post the data so we all can look over it and see if it is all correct. More eyes are better.

Yes, this. I know we had a 14-2 winning result to go in the latest update but we still lost points. Maybe there are results I'm not seeing.

Could be decay rate setting in?

[silversun6]

TFFS wins OSA
39-35

2013-06-09 07:04:11

[josko.ri]

TFFS wins OSA
39-35

2013-06-09 07:04:11

I am not sure if this is right, but I think in F400 it need to be updated only game won/lost difference between clans. This system do not calculate if in some tournament one win is valued with more than 1 point.

[silversun6]

TFFS wins OSA
39-35

2013-06-09 07:04:11

I am not sure if this is right, but I think in F400 it need to be updated only game won/lost difference between clans. This system do not calculate if in some tournament one win is valued with more than 1 point.

i dunno how this works, overall game count :
TFFS won 25 games
OSA won 26 games

[benga]

TFFS wins OSA
39-35

2013-06-09 07:04:11

I am not sure if this is right, but I think in F400 it need to be updated only game won/lost difference between clans. This system do not calculate if in some tournament one win is valued with more than 1 point.

i dunno how this works, overall game count :
TFFS won 25 games
OSA won 26 games

22-22 the end result

[Genoke]

TFFS wins OSA
39-35

2013-06-09 07:04:11

I am not sure if this is right, but I think in F400 it need to be updated only game won/lost difference between clans. This system do not calculate if in some tournament one win is valued with more than 1 point.

i dunno how this works, overall game count :
TFFS won 25 games
OSA won 26 games

22-22 the end result

Now i get confused.
Is this all about the same war? many different numbers here!

[josko.ri]

TFFS wins OSA
39-35

2013-06-09 07:04:11

I am not sure if this is right, but I think in F400 it need to be updated only game won/lost difference between clans. This system do not calculate if in some tournament one win is valued with more than 1 point.

i dunno how this works, overall game count :
TFFS won 25 games
OSA won 26 games

22-22 the end result

Is this after excluding 1v1 sets?

[shoop76]

I think 1 on 1 sets still count as 1 point each. So I think its 21-20 TFFS in team games and 2-1 in the single sets for OSA. Making it a tie for F400 purposes.

[IcePack]

I will be updating the morning of the 15th

[Fewnix]

"IcePack"]I will be updating the morning of the 15th

That's the Ides, right?

as in:

CAESAR
[To the Soothsayer] The ides of March are come.

SOOTHSAYER
Ay, Caesar; but not gone.

[Gilligan]

IcePack do you have the list of wars added with this update? I was trying to figure out how we didn't get a point change, when I thought some RL matches ended

[IcePack]

IcePack do you have the list of wars added with this update? I was trying to figure out how we didn't get a point change, when I thought some RL matches ended

Yes, I'm free all of tomorrow morning and it will be a full and complete update.

IcePack

[IcePack]

Ok, ranking is updated and will be posted in the Dispatch!

Also, I included the war update and included a shortcut to the last four weeks worth of wars, so you dont have to scroll for ages...

IcePack

[ViperOverLord]

Ok, ranking is updated and will be posted in the Dispatch!

Also, I included the war update and included a shortcut to the last four weeks worth of wars, so you dont have to scroll for ages...

IcePack

I don't see the last 4 weeks of wars.