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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues

Postby ljex on Wed May 12, 2010 11:21 am

Kinnison wrote:Hmmm. Do we get to see the layout before you go live with it? This is the first I've seen of this thread, it's interesting... (and yes, I read it all) :lol:

(I'm gong to try and summarize what was in the first few pages, and GUESS at the format you might pick)

1> People sign up in the tourney thread. 2000+ points or clan membership, ANY clan, to join in. Personally, I think using 2000, while legal, is a bit high... depends on the goal of this. to have a clan war tournament, or to show non-clan members what they're missing, and get new folks involved in clans?
2> as you sign up, list a map, and maybe cards/fort settings. maybe all settings.
3> Once a list of um... 80, 160, or 320 is signed up, compiled list is provided to team captains... probably the highest ranked 8, 16, or 32 clan members signed up.
4> Team captains draft off the list (by ranking the other players in order of preference... then random.org sorts the team captains, and snakedraft off their list, in order of availability ...this would be the fastest to get running, although setting up the list in the first place, and getting the captains to rank them, will be the hard part)
5> Teams of 10. Matches of 21, each 10 home settings, and 1 random map. winning team advances in bracket.
6> Maybe the winning team could... not swap, but pick up a player from the defeated team? So second round would be 23 games, etc. Wouldn't want to swap, or some players would end up dropped off the winning team through no fault of their own.

Interesting idea. If it's open enough to non-clan personnel, I like it. I'm not overly fond of the idea of anyone using tournament privileges for a cross-clan war, though. If it's used as a tool to get people interested in clans, I think it's a great idea... I suppose, as I said in #1, it depends on the goal of this event.

(freaky idea)How about a restriction of 2000+ points to non-clan members, and a CAP on the points of clan members? that'd be a twist, a good recruiting tool... of course, the cap would not apply to the team captains.

...sorry, I've been awake too long when I start coming up with ideas like these, and the tournament I just created (to be posted tomorrow)... I'm free-associating, pardon me if I've managed to insult anyone, I'm off to bed.


1) You dont want to get caught with someone who doesn't know team games or doesn't take turns on your team thus majors with 3 team medals are at least going to show up and have some strategy for team games.
2) I dont think this is necessary and it would cause a lot of clutter, just my opinion though.
3) I dont think it should be highest ranked but those who wish to do it as this might deter a high ranking player who doesn't want the responsibility from joining. There could be a rank requirement to be a leader so that the teams are somewhat even to start however that would
4) I have no idea how the draft would work so i cant comment
5) I agree with this as then you can set up groups for your team as you have the required 10 members. Also 21 games is not a huge burden on players especially if spread out over 2 sets.
6) I disagree with this idea

I think the goal should be to get players to play with people they haven't before which is very hard to do with the invite system. As i said before it would suck to get someone who isnt going to make good moves on your team.

The cap on points is quite dumb, there are plenty of great team game players who dont play for points and it would just put more importance on being able to know who those players are...also not all high ranking members of clans are good at team games they could get their points from somewhere else.
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues

Postby Ace Rimmer on Wed May 12, 2010 11:53 am

Were you planning on running this as a knockout tourney, or as a league? That makes a difference on the setup.

I don't think there needs to be a cap/minimum on points. I think requiring a bronze in each of dubs/trips/quads would be a possibility though.

Clan league playoffs are 4d, 2t, 2q per team with 1d for higher ranked team. I'd set this up the same way, 21 games per game series. To ease the burden, what if there were some standardized games? What if you had 5d, 2t, 2q standardized? Then each team would only need to pick 4d, 1t, 1q for their games.
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues

Postby AgentSmith88 on Wed May 12, 2010 6:12 pm

jakewilliams wrote:Were you planning on running this as a knockout tourney, or as a league? That makes a difference on the setup.

I don't think there needs to be a cap/minimum on points. I think requiring a bronze in each of dubs/trips/quads would be a possibility though.

Clan league playoffs are 4d, 2t, 2q per team with 1d for higher ranked team. I'd set this up the same way, 21 games per game series. To ease the burden, what if there were some standardized games? What if you had 5d, 2t, 2q standardized? Then each team would only need to pick 4d, 1t, 1q for their games.


I don't want to standardize games because that limits the strategy for setting up games. I plan on running this as a league, similar to the CLA. However, I am doing 5 dubs, 3 trips, 3 quads for 11 games per matchup. Records will be kept based on head to head matchup, instead of overall record in all games. Winning 6-5 would be the same as 11-0 (except tie-breakers for the playoffs would be overall record in games). Each team will play each other twice, once home and once away.

I guess the setup will be similar to many fantasy football leauges, including the draft. I am setting up the tourney tonight and will post a link. All the details will be listed in the first post. I will definitley listen to suggestions and comments to add or change anything once I have it set up, but I want to get the basic setup down before going over everything.

This will be a TEAM league, hence the requirements. This is not a way to train people in team games.
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues

Postby AgentSmith88 on Wed May 12, 2010 7:57 pm

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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues

Postby grifftron on Thu May 13, 2010 6:56 am




Awesome work 88... i put link to tourney in first post.

already signed up some clan members who were interested back when it was first mentioned... more to come prob

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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues (SIGN UP NOW!!!)

Postby DAAAAAAANG on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:01 am

I'm pretty bummed that this didn't work out. I guess the "draft" idea was just not working out. Would have been an awesome tournament.
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues (SIGN UP NOW!!!)

Postby Gold Knight on Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:04 am

FrancisBoyle wrote:I'm pretty bummed that this didn't work out. I guess the "draft" idea was just not working out. Would have been an awesome tournament.


Not so much the draft idea that didnt work, but the TO's had a lot of problems with the requirements to get into the tournament along with the team size, or those seemed to be the problems i was told about. Added on top of the fact that AS88 has dissapeared from CC entirely, which was very unexpected... Dont consider the idea completely dead, as some of the kinks are being worked out behind the scenes and we hope to get something "similar" out in the future, though there will apparently need quite a few tweaks to it to make it acceptable as a tournament...
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues (SIGN UP NOW!!!)

Postby DAAAAAAANG on Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:53 am

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FrancisBoyle wrote:I'm pretty bummed that this didn't work out. I guess the "draft" idea was just not working out. Would have been an awesome tournament.


Not so much the draft idea that didnt work, but the TO's had a lot of problems with the requirements to get into the tournament along with the team size, or those seemed to be the problems i was told about. Added on top of the fact that AS88 has dissapeared from CC entirely, which was very unexpected... Dont consider the idea completely dead, as some of the kinks are being worked out behind the scenes and we hope to get something "similar" out in the future, though there will apparently need quite a few tweaks to it to make it acceptable as a tournament...


That's good news. I was worried after it was moved to the abandoned forum and locked that it was totally dead.
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues (SIGN UP NOW!!!)

Postby jpcloet on Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:24 am

This would fit better under a "Clan" System. Hopefully we can get one and get something like this into it. Your best chance at getting this going is to start a private league and a private usergroup to go with it for the team leads to draft teams etc.
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Re: Clans "Majors and Minor" leagues (SIGN UP NOW!!!)

Postby Gold Knight on Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:26 pm

jpcloet wrote:This would fit better under a "Clan" System. Hopefully we can get one and get something like this into it. Your best chance at getting this going is to start a private league and a private usergroup to go with it for the team leads to draft teams etc.


Only problem with this is that it would lose the "tourney-following" that would definately lose some of the players, at least to my understanding... Feel like it would basically be settiing up entirely new clans basically, and not sure some of the TL's would be willing to pick up that workload and responsibility of making and tracking those games...
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