F400 Clan Ranking - Needs Repair

by **IcePack** on Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:14 am

Thanks benga!

by **Genoke** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:20 am

Hello there!

i've checked both links, but i guess i'm to stupid to found out, what a clan must do to get infiltrated in that list.

we've started a new clan 'Atlantis' and we'll having our first clan war starting at april 1th 2013.
Does it counts for separate clan wars or do you have to participate in the clan leagues too?
And how does the weight being formed.

A bit more information please?
You may send me a pm if you want.

regards,
Genoke

by **Foxglove** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:40 am

Genoke wrote:Hello there!

i've checked both links, but i guess i'm to stupid to found out, what a clan must do to get infiltrated in that list.

we've started a new clan 'Atlantis' and we'll having our first clan war starting at april 1th 2013.
Does it counts for separate clan wars or do you have to participate in the clan leagues too?
And how does the weight being formed.

A bit more information please?
You may send me a pm if you want.

regards,
Genoke

Hey Ice - as this is such a common question, maybe you can consider putting the ranking qualification info in a spoiler in the first post? I know it's been said a lot of times throughout this thread, but it's hard to look through the posts and find it. Just an idea.

by **IcePack** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:49 am

I am getting back home from Vegas late tonight, I'll write you a PM or we can live chat for a bit tomorrow or over the weekend if you like.

But, look for a pm tomorrow and well go from there.

IcePack

by **kuma32478** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:49 am

Genoke wrote:Hello there!

i've checked both links, but i guess i'm to stupid to found out, what a clan must do to get infiltrated in that list.

we've started a new clan 'Atlantis' and we'll having our first clan war starting at april 1th 2013.
Does it counts for separate clan wars or do you have to participate in the clan leagues too?
And how does the weight being formed.

A bit more information please?
You may send me a pm if you want.

regards,
Genoke

You're typically going to need 3-4 wars to get on the list. We're finishing our 4th now and should hopefully have enough weight at that time to make it.

by **IcePack** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:50 am

Thanks FG!
Great idea I'll work on it this week.
IcePack

by **josko.ri** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:12 am

Genoke wrote:Hello there!

i've checked both links, but i guess i'm to stupid to found out, what a clan must do to get infiltrated in that list.

we've started a new clan 'Atlantis' and we'll having our first clan war starting at april 1th 2013.
Does it counts for separate clan wars or do you have to participate in the clan leagues too?
And how does the weight being formed.

A bit more information please?
You may send me a pm if you want.

regards,
Genoke

Just mathematically, you will need to have 150 games completed to even enter the ranking, with whichever score. That is expressed by "Weight" column, and represent how many matches any clan played in last 2 years, which is range of the ranking. And there was agreement that 150 games should represent minimum qualification number to be presented on the list. Your ranking is calculated even if you have less than 150 Wieght, just is not presented on the table. It starts at 1000 and depending on your success goes up or down but after 150th finished match it happens to be presented in the table.

by **Genoke** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:25 pm

josko.ri wrote:
Genoke wrote:Hello there!

i've checked both links, but i guess i'm to stupid to found out, what a clan must do to get infiltrated in that list.

we've started a new clan 'Atlantis' and we'll having our first clan war starting at april 1th 2013.
Does it counts for separate clan wars or do you have to participate in the clan leagues too?
And how does the weight being formed.

A bit more information please?
You may send me a pm if you want.

regards,
Genoke

Just mathematically, you will need to have 150 games completed to even enter the ranking, with whichever score. That is expressed by "Weight" column, and represent how many matches any clan played in last 2 years, which is range of the ranking. And there was agreement that 150 games should represent minimum qualification number to be presented on the list. Your ranking is calculated even if you have less than 150 Wieght, just is not presented on the table. It starts at 1000 and depending on your success goes up or down but after 150th finished match it happens to be presented in the table.

Thanks for the explanation Josko and Kuma. I'm a bit smarter now.

About 4 clan wars (would be more then 150 games) we're in the ranking and when we have won more then we lost, we come on the list. Make sense...
thanks again folks.

by **josko.ri** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:12 pm

Genoke wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Genoke wrote:Hello there!

i've checked both links, but i guess i'm to stupid to found out, what a clan must do to get infiltrated in that list.

we've started a new clan 'Atlantis' and we'll having our first clan war starting at april 1th 2013.
Does it counts for separate clan wars or do you have to participate in the clan leagues too?
And how does the weight being formed.

A bit more information please?
You may send me a pm if you want.

regards,
Genoke

Just mathematically, you will need to have 150 games completed to even enter the ranking, with whichever score. That is expressed by "Weight" column, and represent how many matches any clan played in last 2 years, which is range of the ranking. And there was agreement that 150 games should represent minimum qualification number to be presented on the list. Your ranking is calculated even if you have less than 150 Wieght, just is not presented on the table. It starts at 1000 and depending on your success goes up or down but after 150th finished match it happens to be presented in the table.

Thanks for the explanation Josko and Kuma. I'm a bit smarter now.
About 4 clan wars (would be more then 150 games) we're in the ranking and when we have won more then we lost, we come on the list. Make sense...
thanks again folks.

No need to win more than lose, you can lose all 4. But then your rank will be appropriate

by **benga** on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:44 pm

FOED - RET 6-6 2013-03-12

TFFS-SOH 9-3 2013-03-11

ID-DYN 9-3 2013-03-12

MD-TNC 4-8 2013-03-12

by **IcePack** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:13 pm

The next update will be made on Saturday.

by **benga** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:41 pm

PIG-FOED 7-5 2013-03-13

by **IcePack** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:12 pm

Ok, I just checked the completed section from cheme and the active challenge thread for any completed wars that aren't moved. Also added benga's games here.

I will update tonight instead. Got other things to do Saturday.

IcePack

Wars Updated:
FISO YNWA 30 19 03/01/13
IA TNC 30 11 03/02/13
OTP DBC 33 10 03/02/13
TOFU MD 9 3 03/03/13
FOED MD 8 4 03/04/13
TSM OSA 27 22 03/04/13
HH LOTZ 27 22 03/07/13
SOH RET 8 4 03/07/13
OSA TNC 6 6 03/07/13
OSA LHDD 27 14 03/08/13
TFFS PIG 7 5 03/09/13
LOW DYN 10 2 03/10/13
HH TPD 35 6 03/10/13
TFFS SOH 9 3 03/11/13
FOED RET 6 6 03/12/13
ID DYN 9 3 03/12/13
TNC MD 8 4 03/12/13
PIG FOED 7 5 03/13/13

by **IcePack** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:40 pm

Archive

by **IcePack** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:49 pm

A quick / semi - interesting thing that some F400 viewers maybe interested in. Viewing strictly the past 12 months from 3-15-12 to 3-15-13.

Ranking on 03-15-13

Rank Name Rating
1 TOFU1419
2 KORT 1414
* AFOS
3 AOC 1366
4 PACK 1265
5 TSM 1262
6 EMP 1254
* IA
7 FALL 1201
8 ID 1199
*9 OSA 1162
*10 PIG 1113

Note:
AFOS and IA did not have enough weight to make the listing using only the last 12 months.
AFOS would fit in 3rd, at 129 weight.
IA would fit in 7th, at 126 weight.
Thereby knocking OSA and PIG to 11 and 12th, respectively.

by **The_Samurai** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:35 pm

Pleased to see that Retribution appears in the F400 ranking system for the first time, and at the 21st position.

I suppose this does not take into account our current win against Dynasty, since the war has not been completed yet ?

Thanks for the excellent work, IcePack !

by **BGtheBrain** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:42 pm

*****

by **Crazyirishman** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:01 pm

I love how we jumped up 4 spots because of random league, didn't know that those 12 game set had that much weight.

by **IcePack** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:20 pm

The_Samurai wrote:Pleased to see that Retribution appears in the F400 ranking system for the first time, and at the 21st position.

I suppose this does not take into account our current win against Dynasty, since the war has not been completed yet ?

Thanks for the excellent work, IcePack !

If a war is won, but all games are not 100% complete it will not take this war into account until all games are finished.

by **IcePack** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:21 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:damn you, you know i like that info, wheres TNC end up with the 12 month!?!?!?!

Not sure, I only checked out the top 10/12. I can do the whole thing this weekend if everyone's interested

by **BGtheBrain** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:23 pm

*****

by **IcePack** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:24 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:I love how we jumped up 4 spots because of random league, didn't know that those 12 game set had that much weight.

LOW gained 18 pt from last F400. But the clans involved are all very close, so very easy to gain or lose positions w small score change for you right now.

Example:
Clan A - 100 pt
Clan B - 98 pt
Clan C - 96 pt
Clan D - 95 pt
Clan E - 94 pt

Update - Clan E gains 7 pt, gain 4 places
Clan E - 101 pt
Clan A - 100 pt
Clan B - 98 pt
Clan C - 96 pt
Clan D - 95 pt

by **Crazyirishman** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:01 pm

IcePack wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:I love how we jumped up 4 spots because of random league, didn't know that those 12 game set had that much weight.

LOW gained 18 pt from last F400. But the clans involved are all very close, so very easy to gain or lose positions w small score change for you right now.

Example:
Clan A - 100 pt
Clan B - 98 pt
Clan C - 96 pt
Clan D - 95 pt
Clan E - 94 pt

Update - Clan E gains 7 pt, gain 4 places
Clan E - 101 pt
Clan A - 100 pt
Clan B - 98 pt
Clan C - 96 pt
Clan D - 95 pt

Thanks for the info icepack, though it looks like we'll need few more random leagues to get us to the top.

by **IcePack** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:11 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:
IcePack wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:damn you, you know i like that info, wheres TNC end up with the 12 month!?!?!?!

Not sure, I only checked out the top 10/12. I can do the whole thing this weekend if everyone's interested

i wouldnt worry about it, I only care because im special

TNC = 20th for past 12 months.

by **Chariot of Fire** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:46 pm

Hey Ice, I have a request but am not sure how much of a pain it would be to implement. You have a column with the up & down arrows showing position change since the previous chart. For the most part these don't change for a majority of clans so there's not much to read in it. Is it possible to add a column showing points +/- that have been won/lost since the previous update? For me that would make the most pertinent column to read as opposed to the routine 'No change' which has been the same for months now (despite our score moving up and down). Thanks for considering this.