Conquer Club

4th 1vs1 Clan Event, Round 1

Contacts:
LHDD: Mad777
FAD: bergy1

41 sets of Best of 5

Rules click link above.

add'on: 12hr FoW apply to this war.

Player usage LHDD: Mad777 (2), Donelladan (2), sempaispellcheck (4), fairman (1), QuikSilver (3), arno30 (3), donche64 (2), samdemars (3), dragon dor (3), Mc Lor (4), djelebert (3), ancessus (3), blonderic (1), Cascades (1), Overdsky (2), rrrowm (2), betiko (1).

Player usage FAD: Razorvich (4), PepeAtila (2), far2ezee (3), dorsettrob (4), Wile E Coyote (1), Enormastitz (3), saintagnes (3), bergy1 (4), Gabriel13 (4), Metricsystemlove (4), Barum Boy (4), Guderian09 (2).

LHDD HOME

show: 16-4 COMPLETED

Map usage LHDD HOME (2 max): Baseball (1), King's Court (1), Three Kingdoms Of Korea (1), World Cup 2011 (1), New World (1), AoR2 (1), Battle for Iraq (1), Classic Cities: Pot Mosbi (1), Feudal Epic (2), Feudal War (2), Napoleonic Europe (1), Cricket (2), Third Crusade (1), 2014 World Cup (1), Crossword (1), Conquer Rome (2), Classic (1)/Tie Break.

Tie Break COMPLETED
QuikSilver vs saintagnes (Classic: Automatic, Sequential, No Spoils, Chained, Sunny, No Trench).

1. Game 15604732 LHDD
2. Game 15604734 FAD
3. Game 15604735 LHDD
4. Game 15604736 FAD
5. Game 15604737 FAD

FAD HOME

show: 10-10 COMPLETED

Map usage FAD HOME (2 max): Baseball (1), Feudal War (1), Baltic Crusades (1), Berlin 1961 (1), Jamaica (1), City Mogul (1), Clandemonium (1), Peloponnesian War (1), Das Schloss (1), Iberia (1), AoR2 (1), USA West (1), New World (1), Bamboo Jack (1), Waterloo (1), 1982 (1), Euarsia (1), England (1), Rail Europe (1), Arms Race (1), Classic (1)/Tie Break.

FAD agrees

Awaiting privileges...

Good to see you again LHDD

Razorvich wrote:Good to see you again LHDD

Can't wait to fight

Sounds like a fun war

Good luck (not too many...) to you FAD!

Good luck FAD, it will be a pleasure to face you.

LHDD Home game posted, awaiting opponent player names to create Home set games.

Razorvich wrote:Good to see you again LHDD

Glad to see you again with a clan that fits more your need

Have fun!

All Round 1 games are now created, all players were invited also.

Wish you all good luck!

dorsettrob violated the fog of war rule in 2 games:
Game 15585128 & Game 15585130.

So did rrrowm in mine btw - but only by a couple of hours and I had snaps - more relevant than an AOR2 game that isn't 12 hours btw

Also my Feudal epic is not a 12 hour rule game hence I ignored the 12 hour rule posted

What was Dorests 2nd line up?

bergy1 wrote:So did rrrowm in mine btw - but only by a couple of hours and I had snaps - more relevant than an AOR2 game that isn't 12 hours btw

Also my Feudal epic is not a 12 hour rule game hence I ignored the 12 hour rule posted

What was Dorests 2nd line up?

He did posted the move in the game chat...but still need to know what was the territs was visible from what he took, if this doesn't get resolve both game to be redone.

First blood for LHDD

Score updated...5 out 20 sets completed.

7 sets are now completed...still questions about FoW rules violations with dorsettrob and fairman games...ended up with 3-2 in favor of FAD.

For me Dorsettrob gave the lines of the moves prior to the opponents first move - given the level of overall sight they had it seems a bit picky going on about that again in a WC match - also since you posted fog Rule statements on games not requiring it which was confusing.
I really would expect a high ranked team to be a bit less sensitive to this especially so far ahead already.

bergy1 wrote:For me Dorsettrob gave the lines of the moves prior to the opponents first move - given the level of overall sight they had it seems a bit picky going on about that again in a WC match - also since you posted fog Rule statements on games not requiring it which was confusing.
I really would expect a high ranked team to be a bit less sensitive to this especially so far ahead already.

I would agree with this. I don't think dorsettrob meant to take an advantage in the first place, and he copy pasted the log before fairman played his first turn. I think that fairman didn't notice he did when he played his first turn as he might not have rechecked the chat, so it's pretty much his own fault. I think we're being extremely picky here...
Been in a clan game once where the opponent was last to join, and as I had a few turns to play with a clanmate that was online with me. So we played all our turns even that game, the opponent went all crazy as he hadn't taken the snap after joining. I copy pasted the log before his first turn and apologized, and he was still completely pissed for the rest of the game and ended up deadbeating.. Really thought it was poor sports.
And yes, on conquer maps no need for fog rules!
Anyways, seems like a legit FAD win to me, let's use common sense (fairman has to agree with such username!!!!! ).

Game 15585128 & Game 15585130.

betiko, if you look closer the game log you will found than in game 15585130 the copy/paste didn't work out and fairman had to play before dorsettrob paste the rest of the copy/paste, was less than 4 hours remain for fairman but was late in Europe time...

The othe remark was the sight losses not mentioned on time neither...

Now I'm not taking any side of this just pointing than not all infos were given to fairman.

Last but not least, I never meant to enforce FoW in all 20 sets, yes I did have the game label showing "FoW" however when you create 100 games you try not to spend hours changing the label, it's about common senses of course for the map having starting point or if the player just droped without attacking (I know the rules and not a newbie in CC )

Mad777 wrote:Game 15585128 & Game 15585130.

betiko, if you look closer the game log you will found than in game 15585130 the copy/paste didn't work out and fairman had to play before dorsettrob paste the rest of the copy/paste, was less than 4 hours remain for fairman but was late in Europe time...

The othe remark was the sight losses not mentioned on time neither...

Now I'm not taking any side of this just pointing than not all infos were given to fairman.

Last but not least, I never meant to enforce FoW in all 20 sets, yes I did have the game label showing "FoW" however when you create 100 games you try not to spend hours changing the label, it's about common senses of course for the map having starting point or if the player just droped without attacking (I know the rules and not a newbie in CC )

dude seriously... don't be so swiss!

so he dropped within the qualifier 3 to attack a qualifier 3 territory (the copy paste not working correctly we can't see which one..). That is 100% of the useful information you need as the only territory that comes out of this qualifier 3 group is new zealand. We're embarassing ourselves to even mention it.

bergy1 wrote:For me Dorsettrob gave the lines of the moves prior to the opponents first move - given the level of overall sight they had it seems a bit picky going on about that again in a WC match - also since you posted fog Rule statements on games not requiring it which was confusing.
I really would expect a high ranked team to be a bit less sensitive to this especially so far ahead already.

bergy1, like I answer you in the PM the other day, its all good, being my first clan event as an organizer I was just trying to make sure the rules are followed as agreed, this situation has been clear on our side and we are still looking forward to have fun playing against you all.

Same here

Your guys are good at their specialist maps - hope we can keep the door open by the end of this round

Players for tie break set selected, games to be send today or tomorrow.

Tie Break set of 5 games sent out, Good Luck!

1st post scores updated, FAD home games set created and invitations are out, Good Luck!