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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby loutil on Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:56 am

These last few posts got me thinking. I believe it was around 2 years ago that the bias in the dice was exposed. I think CC went to a different source for its "random" dice. I had not put this together, but since that time my dice swings have been absurd. I have even complained in our clan forum about how I have so many games that are now decided in round 1 or 2 after years of not experiencing that often. Maybe CC needs to go back to the old dice even though they were biased against rolling 1's.
Tactical wins have become rare...
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby rockfist on Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:12 am

I feel (and I use that word intentionally rather than think) that it started three years ago not two. I distinctly remember one game where we had it won and the opponent rolled a 10% roll to pull it to even, we had it won and they pulled a 14% roll to pull it to even, then they rolled a 10% roll to win it...and it was exactly three years ago that this happened. I almost quit CC over it.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)r

Postby Donelladan on Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:02 pm

The irony of the last three tofu post... :roll:
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)r

Postby rockfist on Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:34 pm

Donelladan wrote:Waaaaaaaaaanh.....waaaaaaaanh... :roll:


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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)r

Postby loutil on Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:28 pm

Donelladan wrote:The irony of the last three tofu post... :roll:

At one level, I get the irony. Our match has had it share of absurd dice swings. My games have been more balanced on that score as I have experienced both ends equally this war.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby betiko on Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:28 pm

Lol so we agree with my dice bitching early in the thread, that s fantastic lol.
I don’t feel overall scammed anymore because i feel like batch 2 has treated me much better do far, and i guess most of lhdd, but it’s just annoying when you have your dice that go always horrible/bad then decent/great. I just feel like it’s long streaks and it doesn’t feel like true randomness when it’s always that patern.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby loutil on Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:16 pm

betiko wrote:Lol so we agree with my dice bitching early in the thread, that s fantastic lol.
I don’t feel overall scammed anymore because i feel like batch 2 has treated me much better do far, and i guess most of lhdd, but it’s just annoying when you have your dice that go always horrible/bad then decent/great. I just feel like it’s long streaks and it doesn’t feel like true randomness when it’s always that patern.

Let's clarify. We agree that you may have had reason to bitch. We do not, however, agree with your bitching ;) :o 8-)
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)r

Postby Extreme Ways on Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:03 pm

Donelladan wrote:The irony of the last three tofu post... :roll:

I recognize the irony in that we have had luck in this war... However, the amount of people bitching about dice in both losing AND winning games is enormous. Some game are won without strat (Malta doubles comes to mind), some games are lost without strat.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby Donelladan on Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:42 pm

Everything fine, I am finally winning some games so I am happy now :D
I may even reach 50% win rate ( just get crappy dice in vertrex next turn please).
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:48 pm

rockfist wrote:I feel (and I use that word intentionally rather than think) that it started three years ago not two. I distinctly remember one game where we had it won and the opponent rolled a 10% roll to pull it to even, we had it won and they pulled a 14% roll to pull it to even, then they rolled a 10% roll to win it...and it was exactly three years ago that this happened. I almost quit CC over it.


loutil wrote:These last few posts got me thinking. I believe it was around 2 years ago that the bias in the dice was exposed. I think CC went to a different source for its "random" dice. I had not put this together, but since that time my dice swings have been absurd. I have even complained in our clan forum about how I have so many games that are now decided in round 1 or 2 after years of not experiencing that often. Maybe CC needs to go back to the old dice even though they were biased against rolling 1's.
Tactical wins have become rare...


Previously we had a repetitive 50k loop. Now we have something different that bW implemented but refuses to disclose any information about. I assume it's cheaper, because it's definitely not better.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:33 am

I assume it's cheaper, because it's definitely not better


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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:25 am

loutil wrote:
betiko wrote:Lol so we agree with my dice bitching early in the thread, that s fantastic lol.
I don’t feel overall scammed anymore because i feel like batch 2 has treated me much better do far, and i guess most of lhdd, but it’s just annoying when you have your dice that go always horrible/bad then decent/great. I just feel like it’s long streaks and it doesn’t feel like true randomness when it’s always that patern.

Let's clarify. We agree that you may have had reason to bitch. We do not, however, agree with your bitching ;) :o 8-)


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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby Doc_Brown on Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:10 pm

Today I introduced my three sons to Risk, the board game. During the game we had an 11 fail to kill a 3, then I had 18 troops that went 4-14 against a 3,1. That pretty much killed my chances of winning the game, and my 5 year old ended up the Victor.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:16 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:Today I introduced my three sons to Risk, the board game. During the game we had an 11 fail to kill a 3, then I had 18 troops that went 4-14 against a 3,1. That pretty much killed my chances of winning the game, and my 5 year old ended up the Victor.


Can we get him in TOFU?
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby rockfist on Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:22 pm

My 12 year old daughter is better than me already :(
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby betiko on Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:06 am

My 3 year old only cares about playing with the troops... i have the game of thrones version.

Doc, thought you’d Say your kids would’ve told you « dad, those dicerolls prove your game is stupid and pointless. Monopoly is the way to go »

Oh there should totally be a monopoly inspired map! Not sure about the game play.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby fairman on Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:45 am

Doc_Brown wrote:Today I introduced my three sons to Risk, the board game. During the game we had an 11 fail to kill a 3, then I had 18 troops that went 4-14 against a 3,1. That pretty much killed my chances of winning the game, and my 5 year old ended up the Victor.


The last 24h we'seen your teammate achieved a 4v1v4, another 12v3v10 with only one loss. We know the stats, these things can happens but not so often.

It's not looking like a strat game anymore ... :(
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby loutil on Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:45 pm

fairman wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:Today I introduced my three sons to Risk, the board game. During the game we had an 11 fail to kill a 3, then I had 18 troops that went 4-14 against a 3,1. That pretty much killed my chances of winning the game, and my 5 year old ended up the Victor.


The last 24h we'seen your teammate achieved a 4v1v4, another 12v3v10 with only one loss. We know the stats, these things can happens but not so often.

It's not looking like a strat game anymore ... :(

LOL...you guys have been doing that in almost every game I have going. Don just made an absurd roll in Spanish Armada. Clearing over 50 troops spread out over 27 territories with a stack of 55. Stalingrad was decided quite early with Betiko's 22-5 roll. Eurasia also settled quickly when we had an early 0-4 leaving you a 8 v 9 to break our stack and you won 9-3. Age of Merchants is equal deploy and yet you are plus 13 in troops and plus 2 in cards. France trips was a dice beat down from the start. Such is the variance of CC dice these days. Again, maybe it is just a false perspective by me, there just does not seem to be any tactical games any more. We are up 21-8 and could easily be 8-21 in the next 29 games that settle.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby Extreme Ways on Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:00 pm

I think talking about dice makes us all depressed, even when we're not part of it. Lets move on, shall we? Got any fancy plans for NYE and Christmas?
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:52 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:I think talking about dice makes us all depressed, even when we're not part of it. Lets move on, shall we? Got any fancy plans for NYE and Christmas?

Shut up and let it happen.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby betiko on Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:26 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:I think talking about dice makes us all depressed, even when we're not part of it. Lets move on, shall we? Got any fancy plans for NYE and Christmas?


Christmas most definitely but not for nye. I feel like i’m too old for nye plan lately. They should change nye to spring. Why the hell would a year start in the middle of winter? There has to be an explanation. Like for cc dice!
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby hopalong on Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:10 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:Got any fancy plans for NYE and Christmas?


playing CC with santa and complaining bout his dice.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby emilywink on Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:05 am

i find just rolling my dice well (and not like a fool) helps me have super lucky dice and avoid the problems that come with bad luck. you just got to have the right spin on them.
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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby betiko on Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:50 am

emilywink wrote:i find just rolling my dice well (and not like a fool) helps me have super lucky dice and avoid the problems that come with bad luck. you just got to have the right spin on them.


If you just came here to brag without technique insights you might as well have kept it for yourself. :x

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Re: [CC8] Final: TOFU (20) vs LHDD (7)

Postby fairman on Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:18 am

New year was in spring before year 1567 in France
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