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[Foe] Put a Maximum Limit on the Foe List

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:37 pm
by redhawk92
i think there should be a foe limit

some players put everyone on foe that beats them and this is not fare to players who can beat them because they post the game but you can not join it

this can be used to farm

ex klobber
he foed all high ranks and i believe did get punished for that

some have the same thing going on but not as major

or this option show on profile how many foes someone has this would make it easy to say i dont want to play him or her and make it easy for mods to see who to warn

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:51 pm
by Joodoo
without a limit, it's easy for the foe system to be abused by ppl like KLOBBER
but with a limit, you might get complaints from some players because there's an endless amount of poor sports on CC

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:55 pm
by redhawk92
Joodoo wrote:without a limit, it's easy for the foe system to be abused by ppl like KLOBBER
but with a limit, you might get complaints from some players because there's an endless amount of poor sports on CC


i think most people are reasonable

set the limit at 20

leaves room for the bad ones most players i have foed have been banned i checked today and let them off

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:54 pm
by blakebowling
This would require a modification to phpBB.

I don't think it is necessary, you shouldn't be required to play with anyone you don't want to.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:12 pm
by Woodruff
kylegraves1 wrote:
Joodoo wrote:without a limit, it's easy for the foe system to be abused by ppl like KLOBBER
but with a limit, you might get complaints from some players because there's an endless amount of poor sports on CC


i think most people are reasonable
set the limit at 20
leaves room for the bad ones most players i have foed have been banned i checked today and let them off


No...20 is absolutely not enough. I foe people pretty much only for abusive language, and that certainly doesn't stop at 20 users, sadly.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:42 pm
by ben79
Woodruff wrote:
kylegraves1 wrote:
Joodoo wrote:without a limit, it's easy for the foe system to be abused by ppl like KLOBBER
but with a limit, you might get complaints from some players because there's an endless amount of poor sports on CC


i think most people are reasonable
set the limit at 20
leaves room for the bad ones most players i have foed have been banned i checked today and let them off


No...20 is absolutely not enough. I foe people pretty much only for abusive language, and that certainly doesn't stop at 20 users, sadly.


just don't read the game chat or rate them as they should be rated ... really simple !

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:46 pm
by Woodruff
ben79 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
kylegraves1 wrote:
Joodoo wrote:without a limit, it's easy for the foe system to be abused by ppl like KLOBBER
but with a limit, you might get complaints from some players because there's an endless amount of poor sports on CC


i think most people are reasonable
set the limit at 20
leaves room for the bad ones most players i have foed have been banned i checked today and let them off


No...20 is absolutely not enough. I foe people pretty much only for abusive language, and that certainly doesn't stop at 20 users, sadly.


just don't read the game chat or rate them as they should be rated ... really simple !


You believe that not reading the game chat at all is simpler than having them on foe so I simply don't read THEIRS in particular? Seriously? I am one that greatly enjoyed the game chat, so that's QUITE SIMPLY not a reasonable suggestion.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:55 pm
by redhawk92
the reason it is a good idea is to stop abuse so does cursing hurt i say no

but cheating yes

even if the limit was 3o it would stop abuse of the game in some ways

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:59 pm
by ben79
Woodruff wrote:
ben79 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
kylegraves1 wrote:
Joodoo wrote:without a limit, it's easy for the foe system to be abused by ppl like KLOBBER
but with a limit, you might get complaints from some players because there's an endless amount of poor sports on CC


i think most people are reasonable
set the limit at 20
leaves room for the bad ones most players i have foed have been banned i checked today and let them off


No...20 is absolutely not enough. I foe people pretty much only for abusive language, and that certainly doesn't stop at 20 users, sadly.


just don't read the game chat or rate them as they should be rated ... really simple !


You believe that not reading the game chat at all is simpler than having them on foe so I simply don't read THEIRS in particular? Seriously? I am one that greatly enjoyed the game chat, so that's QUITE SIMPLY not a reasonable suggestion.


1-woodruff 0-ben79 i get it !

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:56 pm
by Woodruff
kylegraves1 wrote:the reason it is a good idea is to stop abuse so does cursing hurt i say no
but cheating yes
even if the limit was 3o it would stop abuse of the game in some ways


There are different types of abuse. You speak of abuse in regard to Klobber's antics, and I certainly agree that is abuse. However, I would also argue that he's really only hurting himself.

Yet I speak of an entirely different type of abuse (abusive language), which is just as clearly abuse.

Here's the key to the whole issue for me:

With my ability to foe as many as I want: Someone else's abusive behavior is not my problem.
Without my ability to do so: Someone else's abusive behavior is now my problem.

Frankly, the foe system is seriously broken (I can accidentally join the game of someone I have foe'd?!?!?!?!). However, it at least keeps this site tolerable with my ability to largely avoid those who believe they have the right to abuse people in any way they'd like.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:06 am
by redhawk92
so i said fucker foe me?

[modedit=cicero]flame removed[/modedit]

so that hurts you and makes you pissed at me?

why?

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:51 am
by Woodruff
kylegraves1 wrote:so i said fucker foe me?
[modedit=cicero]flame removed[/modedit]
so that hurts you and makes you pissed at me?
why?


Who said I was pissed at you? I simply don't care to see the verbal abuse and fortunately, the site's administrators agree with me. It IS disappointing that you can't make your point without resorting to it. I would have expected better of you.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:54 am
by GabonX
I should not have to play agains't anyone I do not want to.

If a person is abusing the foe list, conquerclub should reserve the right to take action.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:24 am
by Fipa
You should consider the fact that people don't foe others just because they are cursing. They foe them also because they are suiciders or bad players, and that can't stop at 20, not even 30.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:31 am
by AAFitz
the problem isnt the unlimited foe amount, that is necessary for all the reasons listed above.

the problem is only that some use it for the purpose of gaining points, which is fine with me, because I can still foe them...and simply dont care how they get points

scrap the foe list [Rejected]

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:20 am
by FredVIII
Concise description:
  • get rid of foe list

Specifics:
  • loads of people foe everyone that is better than them which is abuse

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • people cant abuse the foe list

limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:28 am
by FredVIII
Concise description:
  • a player can only have 10 foes

Specifics:
  • lots of people foe everyone above a certain rank or everyone who beats them
  • this way people can only put people they really dont want in their games on foe list and cant abuse it

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • less foe list abuse

Re: limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:39 am
by blakebowling

Re: limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:42 am
by owenshooter
blakebowling wrote:Posted a little over 12 hours before http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=83369

yeah, well that one doesn't have a form, this one does... i think it is a horrible idea, and i believe both members starting these threads are doing so for personal reasons. however, at least jeff hardy properly filled out the form and fleshed out his idea... i personally do not believe in or use the foe list and/or mail controls. good luck with this, i don't see it happening...-0

Re: limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:47 am
by FredVIII
how is it a horrible idea?

i doubt anyone has more than 10 stalkers so why would you need so many foes?

Re: limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:55 am
by blakebowling
owenshooter wrote:
blakebowling wrote:Posted a little over 12 hours before http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=83369

yeah, well that one doesn't have a form, this one does... i think it is a horrible idea, and i believe both members starting these threads are doing so for personal reasons. however, at least jeff hardy properly filled out the form and fleshed out his idea... i personally do not believe in or use the foe list and/or mail controls. good luck with this, i don't see it happening...-0

Jeff Hardy?

I agree that it is a terrible idea, and shouldn't be implemented. I'm just saying he should've posted in the other thread, and not posted a limit and a remove thread at the same time.

Re: limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:29 am
by Timminz
blakebowling wrote:Jeff Hardy?

yup

Re: scrap the foe list

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:33 am
by Timminz
There is no such thing as "abuse of the foe list". Any user is free to foe as few, or as many other players as they wish. Are you finding that a lot of players are adding you to their lists now that you are a multi? It's a good thing there are over 22,000 active users. I'm sure you'll have no trouble finding 1, or 2 who don't mind playing against you.

Re: limit amount of people that can be foed

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:37 am
by TheBro
I don't like it, one should be able to foe whomever they please.


To clarify Jeff:

One shouldn't be forced to play with whom they don't want to. While a few bad apples will abuse the system, there will be 10 times the problems if stalkers were allowed to play with people they know they will anger. If you want to limit the foe list to avoid point abuse, make the limit like 200. I doubt anyone will find 200 people they really really don't want to play with, and the 'foe system abusers' will only be able to foe the top 200 players. 10 is way too short of a limit.

Re: foe limit

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:40 am
by Timminz
I have just foe'd everyone who has posted in this thread.