Increase freemium game limit

[sundance123]

The current membership structure was devised at a time when there was far fewer game options and maps. How about a pro-rata increase in the freemium game limit (or just double it)?

Of course the stuffier premiums will be choking on their cheese puffs when the read this. but it is fair to say there is more to CC than the clan warfare and map specialisation that floats the tiny boats of my never-to-be adversaries. A painstaking, and by that I mean cursory, look at the scoreboard shows freemiums are at least 50% of this site. How are they to be sufficiently tantalised into paying for your finer pleasures? Of course CC I dont not suggest you show it all off at once.

But rather, I expect a cogent argument coud be made for a change to the game limit by a person who has access to a fuller picture of membership details. So, of course, I must leave this upto you having planted the seed in your fertile collective mind.

You coud even get all scientific with it, and figure out how changing the limit might alter the number of people changing to premium by tria and error.

Lastly, my suggestion is not only born out frustration at such few games but more that premium is not suitable for me at the present.

[DiM]

the fact that we have more maps and more game options doesn't justify an increase in available games for freemiums.
if anything, they are actually a good incentive for people to start becoming premium members.

PS: to be honest the cost for premium is very low even for poor countries like mine.

[sundance123]

the fact that we have more maps and more game options doesn't justify an increase in available games for freemiums.
if anything, they are actually a good incentive for people to start becoming premium members.

PS: to be honest the cost for premium is very low even for poor countries like mine.

No offense DiM but the perceived desireability or cost of premium is not the main issue here and to focus on that is to focus on profit from the same sources. I was under the impression that CC was looking to grow either membership or revenue. I would love to be abe to make a reasoned argument based on fact but that is not possible without the relevant data.

More games being played by freemiums is better for CC. Does it translate to more paying customers?

[Foxglove]

The current membership structure was devised at a time when there was far fewer game options and maps. How about a pro-rata increase in the freemium game limit (or just double it)?

The beauty of the freemium membership is that you get to play, for free, forever on a site that costs money to maintain and that spends money to develop new features and game options. You get to reap the benefits of that labor without contributing a single cent of money or a single iota of effort to the site. And again, you get these benefits *forever*. Pretty awesome, eh?

Of course the stuffier premiums will be choking on their cheese puffs when the read this. but it is fair to say there is more to CC than the clan warfare and map specialisation that floats the tiny boats of my never-to-be adversaries. A painstaking, and by that I mean cursory, look at the scoreboard shows freemiums are at least 50% of this site. How are they to be sufficiently tantalised into paying for your finer pleasures? Of course CC I dont not suggest you show it all off at once.

But rather, I expect a cogent argument coud be made for a change to the game limit by a person who has access to a fuller picture of membership details. So, of course, I must leave this upto you having planted the seed in your fertile collective mind.

You coud even get all scientific with it, and figure out how changing the limit might alter the number of people changing to premium by tria and error.

Lastly, my suggestion is not only born out frustration at such few games but more that premium is not suitable for me at the present.

Why is premium not suitable for you right now? I see that you've played over 6000 games, so I presume that you had a premium membership at some point (though I could be wrong).

the fact that we have more maps and more game options doesn't justify an increase in available games for freemiums.
if anything, they are actually a good incentive for people to start becoming premium members.

PS: to be honest the cost for premium is very low even for poor countries like mine.

No offense DiM but the perceived desireability or cost of premium is not the main issue here and to focus on that is to focus on profit from the same sources. I was under the impression that CC was looking to grow either membership or revenue. I would love to be abe to make a reasoned argument based on fact but that is not possible without the relevant data.

More games being played by freemiums is better for CC. Does it translate to more paying customers?

Perhaps an even better way to increase revenue would be to put a lifetime limit on the number of freemium games a user can play. After a person has played X number of games, where X is a suitably generous number, they can make a decision whether to pay for future games or not.

[DiM]

the number of games a freemium has should be just enough to let him feel the taste but not enough to satisfy him.

i think 4 games does just that.

i used to be a casual player and i rarely had more than 10 games at once with most of the time having just 6-8. with a limit of 4 games a player like me would be tempted to upgrade to premium to play 6-8 games at a time. increase that limit from 4 to 6 and my temptation is gone as i'll be satisfied with that number and won't feel the need to upgrade.
sure there are also intense players that would upgrade to premium regardless if the limit is 4 or 6, simply because they play much much more than this.

so basically i think that increasing the amount of games freemiums receive, CC will actually lose a big chunk of its potential customers.

[JBlombier]

Not feeling like going into detail on this one, but if you like/love this site, the 25 dollars isn't a high price to pay. People who have less money to spend will think otherwise, obviously. But even some of these people have chosen to pay for premium, because they didn't want to miss out on all the privileges it gives you. Giving freemium more privileges doesn't sound like a good marketing strategy at all. I think lack balanced it out perfectly and bigWham is wise to keep it like this.

[drake_259]

Actually i would vote for freemiums to get an extra 2 games. but for these extra 2 to be only 1v1 games

This is to help induce new players to stay longer and play there turns instead of having them to wait days and by that time they are gone and never to return and then hoping they turn it into a premium later.

[betiko]

So why exactly did you stop buying premium sundance? Would getting more games as freemium make you want to become premium again?

[Metsfanmax]

I'm open to the idea of freemiums getting a couple extra games depending on how long they've been on the site (or how many games they've completed).

[betiko]

I'm open to the idea of freemiums getting a couple extra games depending on how long they've been on the site (or how many games they've completed).

Like ex-premium having an advantage on guys that have never been premium? Sounds legit in that sense.
Business-wise, it s not something i d do. A freemium account is supposed to be frustrating.

[AndyDufresne]

Like ex-premium having an advantage on guys that have never been premium? Sounds legit in that sense.
Business-wise, it s not something i d do. A freemium account is supposed to be frustrating.

That frustration was one of the reasons I volunteered in 2006. Ha.


--Andy

[sundance123]

Actually i would vote for freemiums to get an extra 2 games. but for these extra 2 to be only 1v1 games

This is to help induce new players to stay longer and play there turns instead of having them to wait days and by that time they are gone and never to return and then hoping they turn it into a premium later.

I am glad someone gets my reasoning.Its very annoying to have the same tired narrative shoved back in your face as a freemium. There is no reason to assume that 4 games gives a sufficient taste to hook people that werent going to buy in anyway. Just as I cant assume that having 6 or 8 would mean more money for the site. It would be great to able to back this up with some data but all i do is raise this issue.

The beauty of the freemium membership is that you get to play, for free, forever on a site that costs money to maintain and that spends money to develop new features and game options. You get to reap the benefits of that labor without contributing a single cent of money or a single iota of effort to the site. And again, you get these benefits *forever*. Pretty awesome, eh?

Well no the real beauty of freemium membership is to keep people coming back to the site until they buy premium again. Also, feel free to consider this one post as an iota of contribution to the site.

Why is premium not suitable for you right now? I see that you've played over 6000 games, so I presume that you had a premium membership at some point (though I could be wrong).

I dont have premium because I am time poor for the foreseeable future and in truth I took little pleasure in playing for the last few months I had premium. I am sure this wil ccome back around.

Perhaps an even better way to increase revenue would be to put a lifetime limit on the number of freemium games a user can play. After a person has played X number of games, where X is a suitably generous number, they can make a decision whether to pay for future games or not.

You really are all about club part of CC, I guess conquer community doesnt have the same ring. There clearly woud be endess multis in this scenario.

So why exactly did you stop buying premium sundance? Would getting more games as freemium make you want to become premium again?

No I will become premium when it suits me

[sundance123]

I'm open to the idea of freemiums getting a couple extra games depending on how long they've been on the site (or how many games they've completed).

Maybe, anything that makes the community more active is good in my book. More activity suggests more to offer for premiums and more peope becoming premium and as long as this bears out, then anything shoud be considered.

[betiko]

I'm open to the idea of freemiums getting a couple extra games depending on how long they've been on the site (or how many games they've completed).

Maybe, anything that makes the community more active is good in my book. More activity suggests more to offer for premiums and more peope becoming premium and as long as this bears out, then anything shoud be considered.

Some guy used his money to buy this site, probably to make it more profitable and to sell it some day once he's added enough new value.
There are many people that are premium and that have around 10 active games. So if the freemium becomes 6 games or more, wouldn't you have second thoughts to renew your membership? In all honesty, if my premuim ended tomorrow and I could have 6 active games as freemium, I would seriously consider buying premium again.
the community activity is not as importat as the site revenue obviously. this is not lalaland. And the active people are almost all premium.
I mean there could be some "extra slots" prizes for freemium once in a while for limited time, why not. But businesswise from a freemium point of view a premium membership must make you want to have it bad enough to use your debit card.

[jimboy]

Perhaps an even better way to increase revenue would be to put a lifetime limit on the number of freemium games a user can play. After a person has played X number of games, where X is a suitably generous number, they can make a decision whether to pay for future games or not.

Great idea in theory but in reality all this will do is create more problems with multi's

[drake_259]

Actually i would vote for freemiums to get an extra 2 games. but for these extra 2 to be only 1v1 games

This is to help induce new players to stay longer and play there turns instead of having them to wait days and by that time they are gone and never to return and then hoping they turn it into a premium later.

I am glad someone gets my reasoning.Its very annoying to have the same tired narrative shoved back in your face as a freemium. There is no reason to assume that 4 games gives a sufficient taste to hook people that werent going to buy in anyway. Just as I cant assume that having 6 or 8 would mean more money for the site. It would be great to able to back this up with some data but all i do is raise this issue.

TBH I think these extra 2, 1v1 games should also be available to only new players for about a month and after that it would be back to 4. Again gives new players enough time to actually play games and not waiting for endless amount of days to finish 1 round.

I also think it would be a good idea to give new freemium players the chance to play 1 or 2 free speed games, For the same reason as above to actually allow them the chance to play the game.

(Thinking about it, i would rather vote new players get 2 speed games but no extra games).
(Ofc to make this fair everyone should get this if it was ever launched)

[BigBallinStalin]

I'd support this suggestion if I was a freemium too. "Sure, gimme 6 games, and watch your paying-customer base soar! ...."

[Geger]

I just want to add this : The site do get money from Freemiums!! There are ads, and only fremiums see these ads. And when they click the ads (I did, when I was fremium), the site get more money. Also more games for freemiums are good for the site too.

Note : Pssst.... don't let freemiums play poly, because this was the reason I bought premium for 2nd time

[sundance123]

I'd support this suggestion if I was a freemium too. "Sure, gimme 6 games, and watch your paying-customer base soar! ...."

Note the lack of freemium support thus far.

[sundance123]

I just want to add this : The site do get money from Freemiums!! There are ads, and only fremiums see these ads. And when they click the ads (I did, when I was fremium), the site get more money. Also more games for freemiums are good for the site too.

Note : Pssst.... don't let freemiums play poly, because this was the reason I bought premium for 2nd time

Nice to read some business oriented pro arguments.

I noticed earlier that freemiums were here first! I will have remember that the next time a jumped up premie calls us leeches.

[MagnusGreeol]

- Don't hate Me premiums for saying this, but I'd pay $50 a year to stay premium, I have way too much fun here, To all the freemiums I say, You really want to play, You gotta pay.
GL2 All, In Life & War- Salutes-------)

[MagnusGreeol]

-PS- No disrespect to Freemiums, Some only have time to dabble and think 4 wars are enough, But if One would like to be able to taste all the fruit, Then I believe One should put the green in the basket. I want this site to thrive, and giving more to freemiums who complain there's not enough on the table for them, could turn this into bizzaro world. Either be content with what You have, Or, pay the $25 and have full rein ")

[BigBallinStalin]

I just want to add this : The site do get money from Freemiums!! There are ads, and only fremiums see these ads. And when they click the ads (I did, when I was fremium), the site get more money. Also more games for freemiums are good for the site too.

Note : Pssst.... don't let freemiums play poly, because this was the reason I bought premium for 2nd time

Nice to read some business oriented pro arguments.

I noticed earlier that freemiums were here first! I will have remember that the next time a jumped up premie calls us leeches.

Where's Geger's compelling evidence?

[Metsfanmax]

I just want to add this : The site do get money from Freemiums!! There are ads, and only fremiums see these ads. And when they click the ads (I did, when I was fremium), the site get more money. Also more games for freemiums are good for the site too.

Note : Pssst.... don't let freemiums play poly, because this was the reason I bought premium for 2nd time

Nice to read some business oriented pro arguments.

I noticed earlier that freemiums were here first! I will have remember that the next time a jumped up premie calls us leeches.

Where's Geger's compelling evidence?

Where's the compelling evidence that 4 is exactly the right number of games for freemiums?

[MagnusGreeol]

- I imagine the creator of CC had a good reason for the #4,, who has the right to challenge that? If changed to 6 They'll want 8. It's limited to 4 because it makes them want more, And when They want more They'll pay OR---> bitch about wanting more. Divide $25 into 365 days,, It's a deal of a lifetime,, It's 2 cases of beer or3 packs of cigarettes,, It's really a very cheap great time $25 for 365 days,,seriously.