Conquer Club

• Design a more intuitive system for bot medals.

So, the current system is:

• Bronze: 200 wins vs whamBot
  
• Silver: Bronze + 200 wins vs SassboT
• Gold: Silver + 200 wins vs saxibot
• Platinum: Gold + 200 wins vs whatever level 4 bot is made

I think it would be better (and what seems to be suggested here) if it was like this:

• Bronze: 200 wins against any bot
• Silver: 400 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot
• Gold: 600 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot and a max of [400-(level 1 bot wins)] coming from level 2 bot
• Platinum: 200 wins against level 4 bot + 600 more wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 and max of [400 - (level 1 wins)] coming from level 2 bot.

• Let's you play the 'smarter' bots and be rewarded for it sooner.
• What's MORE deserving of a gold medal, the current system or 600 games against saxibot? Think about it. This is a no brainer.

spiesr wrote:Under your proposed system what would/should happen if someone obtained 200 wins against a Level 2 bot & got the Bronze for it and then obtained 200 wins against a Level 1 bot?

agentcom wrote:Makes sense to me. It was clear to me what you were saying, but maybe you should change the wording anyway because the technical rules that will be used would maybe look more like this:

Bronze: 200 bot wins
Silver: 400 bot wins and 200 of which v. SassBot or higher
Gold: 600 wins and 200 of which v. Saxi or higher
Plat: 800 wins and 200 of which v. Lvl 4 bot

Metsfanmax wrote:This is not necessarily more intuitive. It wouldn't be obvious that you'd need a certain fraction of wins against the higher bots for the better medals. However, I do agree that this makes more sense.

chapcrap wrote:

agentcom wrote:Makes sense to me. It was clear to me what you were saying, but maybe you should change the wording anyway because the technical rules that will be used would maybe look more like this:

Bronze: 200 bot wins
Silver: 400 bot wins and 200 of which v. SassBot or higher
Gold: 600 wins and 200 of which v. Saxi or higher
Plat: 800 wins and 200 of which v. Lvl 4 bot

That's also a little off from what it is. In yours it sounds like you could play 600 level 1 games and 200 level 4 for platinum. I'll reword the OP.

Metsfanmax wrote:Almost ready to submit, but the wording needs to be cleaned up. I don't think it says what we want it to say (especially the gold medal).

Metsfanmax wrote:Now I think platinum is inconsistent. Should be:

800 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot, a max of 400 coming from level 2 bot, and a max of 600 coming from level 3 bot.

I think you should remove the part where you subtract off the wins on the lower levels to determine the cap. It amounts to saying that I can't count as many level 2 bot wins towards a gold medal because I made the mistake of winning on the lower levels.

chapcrap wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Now I think platinum is inconsistent. Should be:

800 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot, a max of 400 coming from level 2 bot, and a max of 600 coming from level 3 bot.

I think you should remove the part where you subtract off the wins on the lower levels to determine the cap. It amounts to saying that I can't count as many level 2 bot wins towards a gold medal because I made the mistake of winning on the lower levels.

No, if you remove it, then it's counting too many lower level games. It would be saying that for platinum, you could get 200 level 1, 400 level 2, and 200 level 4. Having the 400-level 1 bot ensures that, at most, 400 wins come from level 2 or lower.

Bronze: 200 bot wins
Silver: 400 bot wins, 200 of which v. Sass or higher
Gold: 600 wins, 200 of which v. Sass or higher, 200 more v. Saxi or higher
Plat: 800 wins, ditto, ditto, 200 more v. Lvl 4 bot or higher

Metsfanmax wrote:

chapcrap wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Now I think platinum is inconsistent. Should be:

800 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot, a max of 400 coming from level 2 bot, and a max of 600 coming from level 3 bot.

I think you should remove the part where you subtract off the wins on the lower levels to determine the cap. It amounts to saying that I can't count as many level 2 bot wins towards a gold medal because I made the mistake of winning on the lower levels.

No, if you remove it, then it's counting too many lower level games. It would be saying that for platinum, you could get 200 level 1, 400 level 2, and 200 level 4. Having the 400-level 1 bot ensures that, at most, 400 wins come from level 2 or lower.

Your formula doesn't quite work out because if I have 400 level 1 bot wins, it means that I can't have any level 2 bot wins contribute, but only 200 of my level 1 bot wins contribute (which doesn't make much sense).

Honestly we just should give him what agentcom wrote:

Bronze: 200 bot wins
Silver: 400 bot wins, 200 of which v. Sass or higher
Gold: 600 wins, 200 of which v. Sass or higher, 200 more v. Saxi or higher
Plat: 800 wins, ditto, ditto, 200 more v. Lvl 4 bot or higher

And let the big guy determine how he wants to code that.

chapcrap wrote:

spiesr wrote:Under your proposed system what would/should happen if someone obtained 200 wins against a Level 2 bot & got the Bronze for it and then obtained 200 wins against a Level 1 bot?

Well, it's not worded that way, ...

Bronze: 200 wins against any bot
Silver: 400 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot
Gold: 600 bot wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 bot and a max of [400-(level 1 bot wins)] coming from level 2 bot
Platinum: 200 wins against level 4 bot + 600 more wins with a max of 200 coming from level 1 and max of [400 - (level 1 wins)] coming from level 2 bot.