Split medals into two categories

by **patrickaa317** on Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:51 am

Split medals in two buckets. Game performance and community performance.

All medals won during games, plus tourney wins, plus clan war wins go into the former.
All tourney organizing, general achievement, map making, ratings, etc go into the latter.

by **JamesKer1** on Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:27 pm

Isn't this already done? And what would this effect/achieve?

by **patrickaa317** on Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:44 am

JamesKer1 wrote:Isn't this already done? And what would this effect/achieve?

When I see total medals on a player in the scoreboard, i have no idea if it means they are really active within the community or playing games. Look at Gilligan compared to b00060. Two of the biggest leaders in medals but two completely different ways of getting there. Neither is getting the recognition they deserve when it is a community based feat or a gameplay based feat. They are just looked at as having 178 and 138 medals.

Since we are allowing tournament contributions to go above 30, this is really going to lessen how gameplay medals add into counts.

by **agentcom** on Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:23 am

Couldn't the point of medals be to kind of set a common standard across many different types of community activities? Total medal count, whether subdivided or not will always be a rough metric, but each medal is capped and to reach the heights of either of those players, you do have to do a lot of different things. Doesn't lumping each of those players in with other leaders of whatever categories you choose also lessen their accomplishments? Instead of being at the top of a single scoreboard, they'd be mixed in with the leaders of whatever subcategories were created. They'd be near the top by twice as many standards, both about half as prestigious as the single scoreboard.

Also, what would the line be between your two categories? Are tournament wins from gameplay or community? Ratings? What about GA medals that you get for certain tournament accomplishments v. those that you get for doing forum trivia? I don't think that there's a clear dividing line, and to try to create one seems rather pointless.

I ask this rhetorically, since I'm against this however you chop it up.

by **patrickaa317** on Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:47 am

agentcom wrote:Couldn't the point of medals be to kind of set a common standard across many different types of community activities? Total medal count, whether subdivided or not will always be a rough metric, but each medal is capped and to reach the heights of either of those players, you do have to do a lot of different things. Doesn't lumping each of those players in with other leaders of whatever categories you choose also lessen their accomplishments? Instead of being at the top of a single scoreboard, they'd be mixed in with the leaders of whatever subcategories were created. They'd be near the top by twice as many standards, both about half as prestigious as the single scoreboard.

Also, what would the line be between your two categories? Are tournament wins from gameplay or community? Ratings? What about GA medals that you get for certain tournament accomplishments v. those that you get for doing forum trivia? I don't think that there's a clear dividing line, and to try to create one seems rather pointless.

I ask this rhetorically, since I'm against this however you chop it up.

It would except with the fact there is no limit on tournament organization medals, for better or worse, the rest of the medals are capped at 4 for each category (granted there are now a lot of different categories).

And the breakdown was posted in the OP. The GA medals are the only ones that cross both sides of the line. Otherwise the line is pretty easily drawn in my opinion. If you can get it by winning a game, it is a game performance medal; if you get it by doing outside of a game, it is a community performance medal.

You can still have an aggregate total medal count to keep things how we know them today, this would just provide a breakdown to an existing statistic.

by **agentcom** on Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:15 am

If TO medals weren't listed as capped, I'm positive that that's an oversight. Along with every other medal, they will be capped. TO medals will follow the same distribution as Tourney Winner medals.

Otherwise, I still don't think this is worth much even if you only make an additional medal scoreboard as opposed to replacing the existing one.

by **b00060** on Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:22 pm

agentcom wrote:If TO medals weren't listed as capped, I'm positive that that's an oversight. Along with every other medal, they will be capped. TO medals will follow the same distribution as Tourney Winner medals.

Otherwise, I still don't think this is worth much even if you only make an additional medal scoreboard as opposed to replacing the existing one.

I would see the value in it. Recognizing players based on their game accomplishments and contributions to the site would be valuable.