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Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay changes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:12 pm
by cairnswk
Concise description:
  • A need to advise current players on a BETA map when gameplay/graphics/xml conditions are altered

Specifics/Details:
  • Players could be advised either in the Comments field of active games, or via a PM that the BETA map they are playing has changes made to it for whatever reason

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Keeps active players in BETA maps in the loop
  • Allows active players to follow changes more adequately
  • Enhances the player's experience
  • Allows active players to follow changes better if they follow up through the map thread.

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:52 pm
by DoomYoshi
I am thinking the easiest way this could be done is with a post on the Home Page mentioning XML changes.

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:55 pm
by cairnswk
DoomYoshi wrote:I am thinking the easiest way this could be done is with a post on the Home Page mentioning XML changes.

Sorry DoomYoshi, but i doubt if many check out the homepage.

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:31 am
by Fewnix
One of the Beta maps I am playing has gone though changes. I have no idea of what those changes are. If I tell you the name of the map, will you tell me the changes?

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:37 am
by cairnswk
Fewnix wrote:One of the Beta maps I am playing has gone though changes. I have no idea of what those changes are. If I tell you the name of the map, will you tell me the changes?

ooooh! i think that constitutes bribery doesn't it.
you have 9 beta maps in play, 2 of which are mine...and i hate to say this but you know where the map foundry is and i guess since you're playing you can read.
so rather than me pamper you, which might lead to everyone else wanting to be pampered, i direct you to the map foundry Fenwix. ;)
you'll find the changes for both maps on the last 3-4 pages of each map :)

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:07 am
by Armandolas
Still, those changes could have been described in a small post on the date of the change

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:06 am
by cairnswk
Yes i suppose i could have put on my nanny cap and brought along my bum-wiper with it... :roll:

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:39 pm
by Armandolas
No need for nanny stuff.
When you are designing a map, you do it right?At least many people do it.
Something like..."changed now opacity of x regions and created a connection between x and y"
So i dont see a problem doing it on gameplay stage. I believe its much more important now since
And i believe it will perfectly on your persuit to get more people involved in the foundry

Its the same if the admin announces some new stuff, but in the post would say.."now find it for yourself" :D

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:13 pm
by cairnswk
Armandolas wrote:...
Its the same if the admin announces some new stuff, but in the post would say.."now find it for yourself" :D


No it's not the same as admin annoucing stuff.
Admin announcing stuff have to put it in a message thread because that is where it belongs.
But i don't see any admins sending out PMs to each player about what changes are what...it is done on the thread which everyone has to read, and only the lazy bury their heads in the sand or howl with protestations.

Same applies here..changes made to a map are in the map thread.
You are lucky you even got that little message from me to say there were changes because it is the first time i have done that in 40 maps.

Everyone knows that the changes are always disussed in the map thread in the foundry and that is where you look for details. Change can happen at any time in BETA.
I think like some others you Armandolas are just being picky and very lazy which i why i gave the above statement...do you want me to also wipe your bum next time?

If you were one of my generals in the board-room in RL...you'd immediately be sacked for not having read the brief.
Get over it...move on and learn to read.

And that's my stance until such time as the new owners change the policy with maybe the possibility of this suggestion fixing that situation.
That is why BigWham asked me to this thread up. Got the message?

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:16 am
by Armandolas
Never mentioned any pms to be sent.
Just a post in the Map thread saying what changes were made...just after the update is live.

And the reason why i support your request for this suggestion is to save you from have to go to every game and post a msg for yourself instead a of "official warning"

I think , you again, dont quite understand what i say, or not really trying ,assuming, before you READ that im picking on you. Maybe my "australian" is just confusing ;)

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:47 am
by benga
Isn't it announced it chat, I have seen some of those chat posts.

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:05 am
by Armandolas
benga wrote:Isn't it announced it chat, I have seen some of those chat posts.


It is annonunced mannually, by him, but just because he bothered to go game by game
I believe the request here is to have it officially announced to any game been played or every player currently playing that map

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:35 pm
by chapcrap
Hey cairns, I value your opinion a lot of things like this. What do the CA's think?

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:06 pm
by cairnswk
chapcrap wrote:Hey cairns, I value your opinion a lot of things like this. What do the CA's think?


chapcrap, i don't really know as i have not asked.
as stated, BigWham asked me to put this suggestion up, so he can attend to it, so i guess he has intentions of automating this process somewhow. :)

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:51 pm
by chapcrap
Well, as a player, I'd like to see some kind of pop up message that happens when you go to a game with a map that has undergone a change in the XML/graphics. The pop up would contain a little description of what happened. Or a link to the map thread post with a description.

Re: Auto advise 4 active BETA games there are gameplay chang

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:55 am
by Fewnix
What he said.

being told there is or was a bug is not helpful. Being told there was a bug and it has been fixed and how it has bee fixed is helpful.

Appreciate all the foundry has done, is doing and will do.
=D> =D> =D>
chapcrap wrote:Well, as a player, I'd like to see some kind of pop up message that happens when you go to a game with a map that has undergone a change in the XML/graphics. The pop up would contain a little description of what happened. Or a link to the map thread post with a description.