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Mande1992 wrote:I am currently playing this map and I would like to suggest that the wording in the legend for the bonuses be adjusted.
The shield and sword, OR shield and trident bonus should be noted that it is an exclusive or, you can hold one or the other but not both in order to get the bonus. I currently am in that situation and ended up taking both the sword and trident because the legend did not say that would remove all my bonuses http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=10367905
I am also not sure if you get another shield and sword set from a different armory, will you get the bonus the second time?
Thanks for considering,
Mande.
Mande1992 wrote:The shield and sword, OR shield and trident bonus should be noted that it is an exclusive or, you can hold one or the other but not both in order to get the bonus. I currently am in that situation and ended up taking both the sword and trident because the legend did not say that would remove all my bonuses
Mande1992 wrote:I am also not sure if you get another shield and sword set from a different armory, will you get the bonus the second time?
sherkaner wrote:I think it is a coding error actually.
thenobodies80 wrote:Mande1992 wrote:The shield and sword, OR shield and trident bonus should be noted that it is an exclusive or, you can hold one or the other but not both in order to get the bonus. I currently am in that situation and ended up taking both the sword and trident because the legend did not say that would remove all my bonuses
Yes it does. Lower-left corner.
1 trident and 1 shield OR 1 sword and 1 shield give you +4
If you hold one of them, the bonus overrides all positive sword, shield and trident bonuses.
So it's clear that if hold one of them you can't gain your other bonuses, being all them a "sword, shield or trident" bonuses.
trinicardinal wrote:In this case though what Mande might mean is that if you hold a trident, sword and shield you only get a +1 instead of +4. so you lose the +4 bonus...
B the impaler wrote:If I own 2 swords plus one shield will my bonus be +5 or at the least +4 (excluding the +1 for second sword being that's it's positive bonus is overridden by the sword/shield combo)?
4 for the sword/shield combo
1 for the stand alone sword
I understand the board states that the sword/shield combo overrides ALL positive bonuses but in the case of the sword you're technically allowed to hold two without penalty.
In the case I don't get the additional bonus for the second sword will it nullify my sword/shield combo bonus? Or will it just act as a regular territory?
To clarify: will I be penalised for holding an additional sword if I already own a sword/shield bonus? I don't believe the legend is clear on this.
Thanks so much.
B the impaler wrote:Any suggestions? I realise it's a code thing. Contact the map maker?
thenobodies80 wrote:B the impaler wrote:If I own 2 swords plus one shield will my bonus be +5 or at the least +4 (excluding the +1 for second sword being that's it's positive bonus is overridden by the sword/shield combo)?
4 for the sword/shield combo
1 for the stand alone sword
I understand the board states that the sword/shield combo overrides ALL positive bonuses but in the case of the sword you're technically allowed to hold two without penalty.
In the case I don't get the additional bonus for the second sword will it nullify my sword/shield combo bonus? Or will it just act as a regular territory?
To clarify: will I be penalised for holding an additional sword if I already own a sword/shield bonus? I don't believe the legend is clear on this.
Thanks so much.
If you own 2 swords and 1 shield you qualify for these bonuses:1 sword + 1 shield = +4
2 swords = +2
1 shield= +1
total = +7
But you hold 1 sword and 1 shield that overrides ALL positive sword, shield and trident bonuses so you will receive just +41 sword + 1 shield = +4
2 swords = +2
1 shield= +1
total = +4
And no, you won't be penalized with the swords because the bonuses are all positive or equal to zero so in the worst case they are overriden (canceled) by the other bonus.
Instead, to be penalized, you should hold 2+ shields and 1 sword (+3*), or 2+ shield and 1 trident (+3*), or 1 shield and 2+ trident (+3*), or 2+ shields and 2+ tridents (+2*).
Note: * (total value of your bonus)
In few words,you will be penalized, in every single case you have a negative bonus (that is NOT overridden by the 1 sword/1 trident + 1 shield bonus).
It's important to understand that when one bonus overrides another, the latter is not given.B the impaler wrote:Any suggestions? I realise it's a code thing. Contact the map maker?
Like I said previously the xml is ok.
The problem is the legend and we're looking for a way to contact the mapmaker and change it in accordance to the feedback received.
Dukasaur wrote:Does a chariot count as a weapon for this purpose?
BeauJyles wrote:Can someone with a sword territory in an armoury attack another territory within the same armoury or does a gladiator have to "enter inside the armoury" before attacking the neutrals for the weapons?
BeauJyles wrote:If your gladiator is dead, does the sword bonus still count? If so, can a sword territory (in the armoury) venture out into the arena and take over a gladiator?
BeauJyles wrote:It looks to me that a gladiator can get a maximum of +7 troops from weapons bonuses (1+ dagger, 4+ shield/sword and +2 charriot), is this correct?
thenobodies80 wrote:trinicardinal wrote:In this case though what Mande might mean is that if you hold a trident, sword and shield you only get a +1 instead of +4. so you lose the +4 bonus...
Can you provide me an example into a game?
You should receive +4 in any case except tha case in which you hold a negative bonus, in fact the legend says that it overrides all POSTIVE bonuses.
I don't think you received just +1 instead of +4 without having a negative bonus, but I looked just at the code, never played the map
About the legend, I'm discussing that with isaiah and Andy to find a bit of space for a better explanation.
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