WWII Europe

[Qwert]

Your argument falls down here. - You have "Western Front" & "Eastern Front" - these are the german definitions of the fronts...

Then you want to call the middle bit "Central Front" from the Allies perspective?! - It needs changing - it doesn't make sense - it isn't a front.

Finaly i find right name from Allied perspective--Central Europe Campaign-its a little long but i will try every thing to put these on map.

Until SHAEF was operational ETOUSA liaised closely with the British in the planning and organising of Operation Overlord.
Chart 12.- Typical organization of a theater of operations as envisaged by War Department Doctrine, 1940Normandy Campaign June 6, 1944 - July 24, 1944
Northern France Campaign July 25, 1944 - September 14, 1944
Southern France Campaign
Rhineland Campaign
Lorraine Campaign (unofficial) September 1, 1944 - December 18, 1944
Ardennes-Alsace Campaign December 16, 1944 - January 25, 1945 ("Battle of the Bulge")
Central Europe Campaign March 22, 1945 - May 11, 1945

[Androidz]

Ok heres a few suggestion for that. Front Line Problem.

What about useing any of theese:

Enemy Lines.

Enemy Frontlines.


Or if you want something else:

You can call the one side Allied Frontlines, and the Other Enemy Frontlines. Or something.

Bump. I dont see why Front Line is a problem but since they complain. These isint bad.

[Qwert]

ok, its look that for all minor thing i must open Poll,and these will take me so many time,only because to many oposite thinking.
What is wrong with present solution Androidz,its these so bad or what?

[Androidz]

ok, its look that for all minor thing i must open Poll,and these will take me so many time,only because to many oposite thinking.
What is wrong with present solution Androidz,its these so bad or what?

As i said in the post above i dont think frontline is a bad word. But hey, people do complain all you can is to try make them happy. (since you wont get farther if you dont listen m8)

(But personally i belive frontlines is the best word.)

[Qwert]

As i said in the post above i dont think frontline is a bad word. But hey, people do complain all you can is to try make them happy. (since you wont get farther if you dont listen m8)

(But personally i belive frontlines is the best word.)

People do complain,and some time they complain and dont get valid reason for that. Any way in these situation with front line ,i can not pleased all(4-5 people have all diferent sugestion),so i belive that is present thing,best option.

Now people complain abouth name Central Front,and not giving me some valid name,and i must research to find valid name.ofcourse people will again complain,when i find real name for that,but now i will have valid reason to refuse all sugestion with Central Front.

[Androidz]

As i said in the post above i dont think frontline is a bad word. But hey, people do complain all you can is to try make them happy. (since you wont get farther if you dont listen m8)

(But personally i belive frontlines is the best word.)

People do complain,and some time they complain and dont get valid reason for that. Any way in these situation with front line ,i can not pleased all(4-5 people have all diferent sugestion),so i belive that is present thing,best option.

Yup altough i like Enemy Lines aswell:D Seen the movie Behind Enemy Lines?? Great movie:D

[Qwert]

Yup altough i like Enemy Lines aswell:D Seen the movie Behind Enemy Lines?? Great movie:D

Its these in stalingrad Battle theme-

[Qwert]

new update
i move bonus numbers close to hes Boxes.
I change Central Front to Central Campaign.
Add Front Border to Legend.(someon sugest that)
Also change Polish Front to Poland and Balkan Front to Balkan.

Well i hope that these will pleased some people.

Click image to enlarge.

[edbeard]

how about you horizontally flip the helmets so that the symbols can show without being covered up by the bonus number.

Basically it'd be the same as you had it before but in reverse.

[Qwert]

by edbeard on Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:40 pm

how about you horizontally flip the helmets so that the symbols can show without being covered up by the bonus number.

Basically it'd be the same as you had it before but in reverse.

Its not be the same because box is in oposite side,Any way i dont see problem with new position of helmets,only maybe Partisan hat can go horisontal,to stars be wisible.
I have space and i can move a litle helmets.

[Androidz]

Yup altough i like Enemy Lines aswell:D Seen the movie Behind Enemy Lines?? Great movie:D

Its these in stalingrad Battle theme-

i think so dont remmember:O

[pamoa]

As oaktown said maybe you should put the territorriy names on minimap AND normal map so it is easier to swap from one to the other.
I also have some problem reading "S5", could it be more sharp, maybe by incrementing the space between the letters.
And again just a small question: why did you put a "K" for naming Finland ?

[Qwert]

by pamoa on Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:59 pm

As oaktown said maybe you should put the territorriy names on minimap AND normal map so it is easier to swap from one to the other.
I also have some problem reading "S5", could it be more sharp, maybe by incrementing the space between the letters.
And again just a small question: why did you put a "K" for naming Finland ?

If you realy want to be a honest person,you will see that there is no space for Ardennes in minimap. I dont understand,i never will force some thing if i see that is not possible to fit,but Oaktown with some purpose forcing some thing who is quit imposible to achive.

And these other thing-K- aim starting belive that you on purpose constanlty repeat these question"what is these K",without reading mine posts.So please move back and very carefuly read what aim write abouth K.

[asl80]

c'mon qwert, be nice, 40 pages is a bit much to go searching for "k" in ...

my understanding doesn't go further than; "k" is representative of Karelia
(but here's the wiki; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia)

[Qwert]

by asl80 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:06 pm

c'mon qwert, be nice, 40 pages is a bit much to go searching for "k" in ...

my understanding doesn't go further than; "k" is representative of Karelia
(but here's the wiki; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia)

Aim nice,but when someon ask on page 42,what is "K",and i tell hem,and then he again on page 43 ask what is "K",then i dont know what to write,bad or nice words.

[oaktown]

Central Campaign: great change qwert.
Putting the bonuses on the left of the hats: also a great change. If you liked having the numbers on the right of the helmets, you could always put the helmets & numbers to the left of the region names, but I think it is fine as-is.

If there is any way you can get the territory names on the mini map you really should: anybody looking to attack or place on S1 through s6 will be doing so looking at the mini-map, and right now it's going to lead to mistakes. It seems to me that you could increase the size of the mini-map at least enough to squeeze in the two-digit titles. Maybe add some pixels to the top of the map - make the legend larger, adjust where you put the small map?

I was joking about WTF (above). The meaning it has for the map is correct, but it has another, funnier meaning!

The lines coming out of VR7 look kinda funny, and it's confusing that sometimes attacks are shown by arrows and elsewhere by a think black line. I know that the old Eastern Front Map has it this way, but that doesn't mean it's good; plus it is less clear in this smaller version.

"Balkan" should maybe be "Balkans"?

"Stars" or "stars"? Capital or not?

[gimil]

by asl80 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:06 pm

c'mon qwert, be nice, 40 pages is a bit much to go searching for "k" in ...

my understanding doesn't go further than; "k" is representative of Karelia
(but here's the wiki; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia)

Aim nice,but when someon ask on page 42,what is "K",and i tell hem,and then he again on page 43 ask what is "K",then i dont know what to write,bad or nice words.

If people keep asking qwert doesn't that make it an issues?

[pamoa]

Sorry qwert just missed your answer.

About S1-6 names in minimap I think it will be a question of life or death in a freestyle game with so much terrtories you could have up to 30 moves to make in 1vs1 game and no time to look back and forth to check the right name for the right territtory. Please try to find a way to put these in, your map will be so good to play.

[lt_oddball]

ok, its look that for all minor thing i must open Poll,and these will take me so many time,only because to many oposite thinking.
What is wrong with present solution Androidz,its these so bad or what?

As i said in the post above i dont think frontline is a bad word. But hey, people do complain all you can is to try make them happy. (since you wont get farther if you dont listen m8)

(But personally i belive frontlines is the best word.)

I didn't complain .

[lt_oddball]

About S1-6 names in minimap I think it will be a question of life or death in a freestyle game with so much terrtories you could have up to 30 moves to make in 1vs1 game and no time to look back and forth to check the right name for the right territtory. Please try to find a way to put these in, your map will be so good to play.

That's a general problem of doing a freestyle game with huge maps. Shouldn't do huge map freestyle games then..

Personally, I find the minimap without S1-6 ok. It is clear where to look for, and if not immediately clear , then one will surely learn during the match after a round or 2.
If you like the minimap to be enlarged such that S2 has space next to the circle then you'd have to enlarge it by more than 400%.
Really, there is no space for it, it takes away the visuals in the background (flags, star) and really it is relatively too much effort to enlarge, move with numbers, sizes to please only a handful of map-blind players.

Let's go for it as it is !

(well, the helmets should move away a bit from the numbers, and the S5 should have a tiny bit more space between S and 5).
(aaaand.."Front Border No Crossing"..hmmmmm Front Border ? Is there also a behind border ?... better make it Map practical..it is a double line , then make it "Double Front line no crossing except via arrows"... or perhaps "Reinforced Border no crossing "(except via arrows). )

[Qwert]

gimil on Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:07 am

qwert
"k" is representative of Karelia
Aim nice,but when someon ask on page 42,what is "K",and i tell hem,and then he again on page 43 ask what is "K",then i dont know what to write,bad or nice words.
If people keep asking qwert doesn't that make it an issues?

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No its not issue,its just Pamoa not read mine reply.K is Karelia,quit simple answer,no need for some Issue debate.

If there is any way you can get the territory names on the mini map you really should: anybody looking to attack or place on S1 through s6 will be doing so looking at the mini-map, and right now it's going to lead to mistakes. It seems to me that you could increase the size of the mini-map at least enough to squeeze in the two-digit titles. Maybe add some pixels to the top of the map - make the legend larger, adjust where you put the small map?

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I will se what i can but i can not promise nothing-you see that is quit fill Ardennes terittory.


I

was joking about WTF (above). The meaning it has for the map is correct, but it has another, funnier meaning!

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Ok.

The lines coming out of VR7 look kinda funny, and it's confusing that sometimes attacks are shown by arrows and elsewhere by a think black line. I know that the old Eastern Front Map has it this way, but that doesn't mean it's good; plus it is less clear in this smaller version.

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If you look on Eastern Front map you will see that these is Peninsula of Crimea.What you propose to erase peninsual?

"Balkan" should maybe be "Balkans"?

"Stars" or "stars"? Capital or not?

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Balkans i understand,but these second-Capital or not?

by pamoa on Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:59 am

Sorry qwert just missed your answer.

About S1-6 names in minimap I think it will be a question of life or death in a freestyle game with so much terrtories you could have up to 30 moves to make in 1vs1 game and no time to look back and forth to check the right name for the right territtory. Please try to find a way to put these in, your map will be so good to play.

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Freestyle games-107 territory,i think that these map will not be good for freestyle,i generaly think that any map with over 100 terittry is not good for frestyle games.
Please dont be so serious-"question of life or death"

It odball
well, the helmets should move away a bit from the numbers, and the S5 should have a tiny bit more space between S and 5).
(aaaand.."Front Border No Crossing"..hmmmmm Front Border ? Is there also a behind border ?... better make it Map practical..it is a double line , then make it "Double Front line no crossing except via arrows"... or perhaps "Reinforced Border no crossing "(except via arrows). )

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Aim all ready anounce that i will move helmets.
"double Front line no crossing except via arrows" do you think that these is to much short name?

[lt_oddball]

"double Front line no crossing except via arrows" do you think that these is to much short name?

"No crossing double Frontline" is not really true as you have a couple of arrows going over it.
So depends on how true you want this text to be, and how much it should relate to the map or some common military expression for it.

Compromise:
"No crossing of"
"double Frontline"
"except" xxx

Where xxx is a similar small red arrow

[pamoa]

About "frontlinerbordernotcrossingbalblabla", drastical quick and painless solution: REMOVE THE TEXT AND BOX.
You explain it in legend and anyone who plays a bit on CC knows what a border draft as double line with arrows means: impassable.

[Qwert]

by pamoa on Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:09 pm

About "frontlinerbordernotcrossingbalblabla", drastical quick and painless solution: REMOVE THE TEXT AND BOX.
You explain it in legend and anyone who plays a bit on CC knows what a border draft as double line with arrows means: impassable.

These is most interesting solution,what other think abouth that.

[lt_oddball]

by pamoa on Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:09 pm

About "frontlinerbordernotcrossingbalblabla", drastical quick and painless solution: REMOVE THE TEXT AND BOX.
You explain it in legend and anyone who plays a bit on CC knows what a border draft as double line with arrows means: impassable.

These is most interesting solution,what other think abouth that.

Yeah..remove it alltogether