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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:49 am
by Qwert
Ok i will give me second chance, but for every yours sugestion i vill ask logical explain, i think its fair .

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:18 am
by KEYOGI
Well post your latest version again so people can comment, it was quite a few pages ago and it is no longer there.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:25 am
by Qwert
here latest version of map.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:00 am
by Teya
You have named the russian armies after the capital cities, how come you dont do the same with the german armies?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:05 am
by Qwert
what you sugest, please consider that maybe some player dont want to germans army have russian citi names

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:53 am
by Ruben Cassar
Teya wrote:You have named the russian armies after the capital cities, how come you dont do the same with the german armies?


I think that's because the Russians were defending their territory. So the armies which were based in those cities get that name. On the other hand the Germans were attacking in mass. The names should stay as they are in my opinion.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:23 am
by hulmey
why dont u call them something like SS Army etc...Name them after different divisions of hitlers army?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:55 am
by socralynnek
I'd like to propose the following:

If one holds Bialystok, Lvov and Odessa at once, one gets +3 (or whatever)

Why?
You have the stared territories which simulate where the Russians got their additional troops.
Let's make something similar for the German side.
I could even imagine making most of he countries not belonging to a continent and make a few small continents in the West and East to simulate backing troops. But that might be a too big change to the map at the current stage.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:20 am
by boberz
The names of the armies are as near to historically accurate as they should be in a game. Also i still dont like that compass and dont personally feel it needs a compass at all. Also could the title be all the same colour i do not like the effect. Other than that this is very good.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:34 am
by Qwert
hulmey wrote
why dont u call them something like SS Army etc...Name them after different divisions of hitlers army?

Hulmey you just joke?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:43 am
by Qwert
boberz wrote
The names of the armies are as near to historically accurate as they should be in a game. Also i still dont like that compass and dont personally feel it needs a compass at all. Also could the title be all the same colour i do not like the effect. Other than that this is very good.


These what i say, germans atack SSSR whith 3 direction, nort-center and south.Germans target its its been Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad.
German forces been 3 army group-Army group nort target Leningrad,Army group Center target Moscow and Army group south target Stalingrad .
Im not create something new names what not be present in 1941.

I complete agree with you compass opinion, i try to find some compass what present ww2 but not find, these not be a problem to remove compass from map.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:08 pm
by Ruben Cassar
I agree about the compass. Try to find an old World War II era map that has a compass and use that. If you cannot find it maybe you are better off without the compass and the one you have right now kind of seems out of place (and time!) in this map. Anyway it's just a minor cosmetic detail.

Another minor thing...I would prefer the wording to be Hold all three Red Star territories as the Red Star is synonymous with the Red Army but that's up to you.

Names...shouldn't those two be Lviv and Donetsk?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:13 pm
by hulmey
why would i be joking? you have a army called moscow army...you could have the other german army, ss army etc....whats the problem?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:21 pm
by Qwert
Wermacht and SS its not same thing and i will not put some german army whit SS in my legend and these my final answer to you Hulmey.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:23 pm
by Qwert
I will se some fames german army who fight in eastern front Ruben.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:06 pm
by Ruben Cassar
qwert wrote:I will se some fames german army who fight in eastern front Ruben.


Sorry qwert but I did not understand what you mean.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:12 pm
by Qwert
i mean to put in legend german army why fight in eastern front like 6army fieldmarsala Paulusa

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:47 pm
by AndrewB
Ruben Cassar wrote:Names...shouldn't those two be Lviv and Donetsk?


The proper Russian names are Lvov and Donetsk, and also Perekop, not Parakop.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:02 pm
by AndrewB
And also about the border between Dnepropetrovsk and Kursk. Someone have suggested that before: Why don't you just continue a river instead of whose hills/mines images?

And the font. Using a Serif font is generally bad idea. I don't think any of the existing map are using Serif font.

About the compass. Just do a search in Google Images and hindreds will come up.

Some which I personally liked:
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Or maybe just this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:21 pm
by reverend_kyle
Dont change it, the compass is fitting, it looks steel, which represents the communist steel curtain.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:08 pm
by boberz
firstly it was an iron curtain. but that is a minor detail. Qwert is right about the names north south etc.. this is historically correct and does not effect gameplay. There should be no compass because there is not room on the map, the compasss itself is ok i just do not think it needs one at all. i agree with AndrewB about the river and i really think this map is nearly ready.

Again i agree with qwert (read post below this) the font is fine it is readable and not elaborate. I say no font change.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:08 pm
by Qwert
Andrew
And the font. Using a Serif font is generally bad idea. I don't think any of the existing map are using Serif font.

You wrong its not SERIF text font its a GEORGIA, its look good people dont say nothing bad.

Tanks Andrew for pictures of compass. if people ask to change compass and to put some of yours i will do these.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:10 pm
by Qwert
boberz, people now vote for umpasabile border, if people vote for yes i vill not change but if say no i vill change wath he sugest.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:18 pm
by DublinDoogey
qwert wrote:Andrew
And the font. Using a Serif font is generally bad idea. I don't think any of the existing map are using Serif font.

You wrong its not SERIF text font its a GEORGIA, its look good people dont say nothing bad.

Tanks Andrew for pictures of compass. if people ask to change compass and to put some of yours i will do these.


A serif font is one with "feet" on the bottom, Georgia, Times New Roman, etc, those are serif fonts.

What seems to be more proper/ the general trend, is the use of sans-serif fonts such as Tahoma or Arial

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:26 am
by Qwert
I look for comanders of germans army group in first stage of atack in SSSR maybe to put names of Fieldmarsal insted ARMY GROUP.

Army group north-- Field Marshal Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb
Army group center--Field Marshal Fedor von Bock
Army group south--Field Marshal Karl von Rundstedt.

what you think of these?