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Postby Molacole on Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:08 pm

Wisse wrote:
Molacole wrote:A country - 2
B country - 2
5th M D - 2
4th M D - 2
109 infantry D - 6
air fields - 9


dued the last 2 have exact the same countrys and borders, thats the only things that count, so i suggest the last 2 must be the same bonus


I don't judge bonuses only on borders and amount of territories. You have to throw in the attackable territories factor into it or it. Simple numbers don't justify a bonus imo. I think you need to consider the actual location of the bonus too.

Air fields is smack dab right in the middle of 3 +2 bonuses and that is what made me give it the extra 3 troops. In all actuallity nobody is ever going to hold it so it doesn't matter what you give it lol
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Postby Wisse on Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:10 pm

hmm ok give the air fields 8 and the other one 7 then i agree
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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:26 pm

when you have unique decision i will put bonuses,ok
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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:41 pm

ok anybody else want to give hes opinion for bonuses
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:15 pm

Old Poll Results:

Should I continue work on this map?
Yes
62% [ 61 ]
No
37% [ 36 ]

Total Votes : 97

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Hm, I'll look over the gameplay another time, but right now I'll make some quick comments:

The title in the right corner, is a little too 'compact'. Try a font with a little more spacing between the words.

Regarding the colors, perhaps you can play with them and make them look a little more realistic for the map. Also, having the middle continent the color it is, and the letters blue, doesn't make it easy on the eyes. I suggest playing around with the colors, perhaps so you can get a more authentic feel.

Also, look for a more authentic impassable border. Perhaps you could use some sort of hand drawn looking image...of what, I'm not entirely sure. Something to go with the theme of the map.

Regarding the legend, the colors underneath the starts look fake, and out of place. It looks like someone took a highligher to this old piece of paper, rather than it being old ink.

Also, is there any reason why the 'A' near the 'B' isn't the same size?


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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:30 pm

you dont read topic, and if you do you will see that if i put terittory all in 1 colour to be equal, people with colour blindes will have problem to see what country its present in map.

Also, look for a more authentic impassable border


More authentic? I put autentic impasabile borders and if you dont belive me i will give you adres with original map of atack to Iwo jima.

The title in the right corner, is a little too 'compact'. Try a font with a little more spacing between the words.


These its original title from map of invasion to iwo jima.

Regarding the colors, perhaps you can play with them and make them look a little more realistic for the map. Also, having the middle continent the color it is, and the letters blue, doesn't make it easy on the eyes. I suggest playing around with the colors, perhaps so you can get a more authentic feel.


The colours of midle teritory was diferent but i change that Ruben(he got problem with eye) to beter see diferent, and now its map better for colour blinded people.
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Postby johnjohn0701 on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:32 pm

[quote="qwert"]here first image

[img]http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9885/podesavanjedimvb2.png[/img][/quote]

this map looks cool...
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:36 pm

I'm merely saying the font is rather unreadable in the middle area.

In regards to the title, I don't mean to change what it says, just the font, as it is 'too compact'. Some fonts are compact, and run the letters together. Perhaps change it to a different font so it is easier to read.

Also, in regards to the color, I was also just saying...it feels like you've got 'old' working against 'bright and new'...which doesn't flow with the map feel.


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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:37 pm

Yes johnjohn0701, i manage to find original map of atack to iwo jima, and implement to present map, exept box with bonuses numbers, and colours, becouse people will can not see who terittory belong who country.
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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:40 pm

The font its 99% original, and like i say i try to create original map, but these will be very dificulty if i put original colours to terittory becouse people will dont know who terittory belong to who country.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:51 pm

Have you tried various shades and tones? Say perhaps colors that aren't so bright? To give it the 'older' feel that you have going with the rest of the map?


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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:59 pm

You dont understand andy, colours must be brighten becouse map also bright, i mean original map dont have these colours diferent terittory. Look page 4 to see original background.
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Postby hulmey on Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:06 am

Qwert is trying succesfully for this Map to have a very orginal feel to it....Most army maps arre very bland and quite colourless (not many colour blind people in the army ruben :P)...

My father is in the Army and i feel that that this map is veryaunthentic looking andy.

Qwert is also trying to create a call of duty (PS2 game) feel to this map....

I think visually you are spot on qwert...

the only recommendation i would male as not to confuse people would be the unpassable's (anti-tank barriers) because it looks like you can only attack one way
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Postby Qwert on Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:35 pm

hulmey
the only recommendation i would male as not to confuse people would be the unpassable's (anti-tank barriers) because it looks like you can only attack one way


I will change this to bouth side.

Andy, i look in map and i belive that people with no problems can read names in midle country, and Blue numbers can se with no problems too.
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Postby Molacole on Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:21 pm

V phlp corps landing annex easy at the top of the map looks like it was photo copied with a poor copier and with blue ink.

the borders of the letters do smudge into each other a bit.
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Postby Qwert on Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:31 pm

well in WW2 they dont have photo copier.
I try to put original letters and i manage to do these, and these how look in original.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:37 pm

There's a spelling mistake in the lower right corner. It's defence barriers with a double "r".
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Postby Qwert on Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:40 pm

you mean that must write "Barier"?
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Postby Molacole on Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:00 pm

your spelling = defense bariers
correct spelling = defense barriers

you could even call it defensive barriers...
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:11 pm

Molacole wrote:your spelling = defense bariers
correct spelling = defense barriers

you could even call it defensive barriers...


Yes defensive barriers sounds good.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:52 am

Ok, i will put"Defensive barriers"
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:25 am

OK, i have 1 clear opinion for bonuses.
Molacole
A country - 2
B country - 2
5th M D - 2
4th M D - 2
109 infantry D - 6
air fields - 9

Anybody else.
Wisse you must put clear bonuses, you put 2-3 for 1 country, or 5-8.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:03 pm

qwert wrote:OK, i have 1 clear opinion for bonuses.
Molacole
A country - 2
B country - 2
5th M D - 2
4th M D - 2
109 infantry D - 6
air fields - 9

Anybody else.
Wisse you must put clear bonuses, you put 2-3 for 1 country, or 5-8.


Yes me! I do not agree with the bonuses proposed by Molacole.
These are my suggestions:

A country - 2
B country - 2
5th M D - 2
4th M D - 2
109 infantry D - 5
air fields - 6

There is only one territory more that you need to hold to protect Air Fields so a 3 unit bonus gap between it and 109 infantry does not make sense to me.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:07 pm

Now i have 2 sugestion,
Molacole
A country - 2
B country - 2
5th M D - 2
4th M D - 2
109 infantry D - 6
air fields - 9

Ruben Casar
A country - 2
B country - 2
5th M D - 2
4th M D - 2
109 infantry D - 5
air fields - 6
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:12 pm

Cassar please! ;)
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