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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v7> p1,13

Postby natty dread on Thu May 27, 2010 1:59 pm

I just thought of something... making the 1-station train bonuses being paid independently brings some new problems.

For one, now these stations will each be a one-territory +1 bonus. This is fine as I can just up their neutral count. But it kinda bothers me that they end up more powerful than the oe stations... but I can live with that, the OE still has the objective.

For another thing, Servia becomes very problematic. When you capture Belgrade, you get the train bonus of Servia, but if you hold Belgrade, Vienna & Budapest, will you then get train bonuses of both countries? This is something that would very likely confuse players.

So... Unless anyone has any better solutions, I think I will have to keep the "paid independently/with land only" scheme.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,13

Postby natty dread on Thu May 27, 2010 2:48 pm

Version 8 released. Lots of little changes.

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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby danfrank on Fri May 28, 2010 5:31 pm

Nice Job :!: .. This is my first look at this map.. I really like the texture of the countries.. Keep up the good work =D>
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Sat May 29, 2010 10:23 am

Thanks dan.

So, how does the new bonus scheme look?

I'll tally up the figures here... the usual format, territories-borders-bonus (bonus with autodeploy in parentheses.)

France: 9-3-4(5)
Italy: 7-3-4
Low C: 4-4-3
Switzerland: 1-1-1
Germany: 12-9-8
Austrohungary: 13-11-10
Servia-MN: 3-3-3
Romania: 3-3-3
Ottoman: 9-3-5(6)

Now, both Germany and Austrohungary could be raised by 1 or 2. Perhaps increasing both monopolies by 1 on both countries would be appropriate?
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:58 am

Ian, I can see you're back... I could really use your expertise right about now! ;)
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:42 am

Now, both Germany and Austrohungary could be raised by 1 or 2. Perhaps increasing both monopolies by 1 on both countries would be appropriate?


I guess I'll do this, if nobody has any conflicting opinions.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:31 am

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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:09 pm

France: 9-3-4(5)
Italy: 7-3-4
Low C: 4-4-3
Switzerland: 1-1-1
Germany: 12-9-8
Austrohungary: 13-11-10
Servia-MN: 3-3-3
Romania: 3-3-3
Ottoman: 9-3-5(6)


looks pretty solid my suggestions are:

Frances land bonus should be raised up to 3 making it a total of 5(6) (I am aware that it was that way in earlier versions)

I also think Romania should be dropped down to 2, maybe Servia as well.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:51 am

Hm. You really think so? Dropping romania & servia to 2 each, to me it seems a little low for something with 3 borders...

Oh btw that table isn't totally accurate anymore, as you can see in the latest image I raised both Germany & Austrohungary by 2.

As for france... are you suggesting to raise the land or the train bonus?
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby The Bison King on Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:30 pm

As for france... are you suggesting to raise the land or the train bonus?


Just the land bonus.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:13 pm

Yeah, I could increase the land bonus to 3...
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:27 pm

france land bonus -> 3

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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby theBastard on Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:14 am

natty, maybe you could change in legend "Belgrad belongs to both Serbia - Monte Negro and Austro-Hungary" to "Belgrad belongs to both Serbia & Monte Negro and Austro-Hungary". just to folow names of Land Monopoly.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:51 am

Yeah, I could..
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby Evil DIMwit on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Well, looks like this has been sitting long enough. Let's give it two days for a final sweep.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby Evil DIMwit on Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:02 am

Hm... Okay, stamp it is.

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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:40 am

Great, thanks for the stamp e.d \:D/
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby ender516 on Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:11 pm

Yay! Progress!
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby Evil DIMwit on Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:23 pm

Um... It looks like the 'N' of "OTTOMAN" is partly cut off?
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:42 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:Um... It looks like the 'N' of "OTTOMAN" is partly cut off?


I guess I could move the text a few pixels.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby The Bison King on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:03 pm

Awesome!!! I'm so glad this is progressing ;)
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:32 pm

Thanks Bison.

For now I'm trying to get Lunar war stamped for gfx, so I'm primarily working on that one, but as soon as that is done I will concentrate more on this map...

Currently, I'm looking for inspiration to redoing the legends. I know they are a bit inadequate and don't reflect the theme too well.

I'm not totally satisfied with the land territory font either, it doesn't look good on the legend... I should try to find something that looks good both on the legend and on the map itself.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions, feel free to post them.
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14 [GP]

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:28 pm

A couple of quick suggestions:

Since all your names are in English you should write Rome instead of Roma.
Servia? :?
Write only Reggio Calabria,it's better. No one uses reggio di calabria, it's almost exclusively "a wiki thing" because in italy we have 2 reggio (reggio emilia and reggio calabria) ;)

One thing leaves me a really perplexed... reading the title and then looking at the map it's hard for me to associate the steam...the orient express...I think that there is a lack of connection between the theme of the map and how it is (not) represented graphically :-k
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v8> p1,14 [GP]

Postby natty dread on Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:13 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:A couple of quick suggestions:

Since all your names are in English you should write Rome instead of Roma.


I don't know. I was thinking of going the other way, that is, converting all names to local languages... :-k

Servia? :?


Well, the 1863 map of Europe that I traced had the country written as Servia. I just assumed it was written that way at the time so it transfered here...
Write only Reggio Calabria,it's better. No one uses reggio di calabria, it's almost exclusively "a wiki thing" because in italy we have 2 reggio (reggio emilia and reggio calabria) ;)


Good advice, it'll be shorter too ;)

One thing leaves me a really perplexed... reading the title and then looking at the map it's hard for me to associate the steam...the orient express...I think that there is a lack of connection between the theme of the map and how it is (not) represented graphically :-k


Well, Age of Steam is the map pack name... in case you don't know there will be 2 more maps coming, each focusing on a famous railway, around the same time (late 19th-early 20th century.)

As for thematic consistency, I fully agree, the map needs something more graphically to fully integrate the theme into the map. If you have any suggestions let me know :)
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Re: AOS: Orient Express 1883 <v9> p1,15 [GP] - slight gfx up

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:13 pm

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