SoC 1v1 Ladder Challenge (CLOSED)

[MGSteve]

Golly! I actually won one! Managed to get the big half against Aussie for a change.

That puts me at Aussie's spot of 6, which puts me in reach of Duk so I'll challenge him with Game 14673408 and Game 14673411. Walled.

[Dukasaur]

Golly! I actually won one! Managed to get the big half against Aussie for a change.

That puts me at Aussie's spot of 6, which puts me in reach of Duk so I'll challenge him with Game 14673408 and Game 14673411. Walled.

Accepted.

My game is Game 14673426

[celliottii]

Challenge with celliottii

Random: Game 14673008
My Game: Game 14673012

Mish,

This is not a legit challenge, bro, You're too far away from me to issue a challenge. Right now, you're at #39 and I'm at #15...

Golly! I actually won one! Managed to get the big half against Aussie for a change.

That puts me at Aussie's spot of 6, which puts me in reach of Duk so I'll challenge him with Game 14673408 and Game 14673411. Walled.

HOLY CRAPOLA!! You WON a match?!?!?! Aussie, were his dice loaded or did you test him for steroids??

Anyway...got the match and new challenge recorded...

[Leehar]

who's challenging me next? does caff's dibs mean he plays me immediately even if he just lost?

[Dukasaur]

who's challenging me next? does caff's dibs mean he plays me immediately even if he just lost?

I was going to, but I forgot.

If it's legit, I'll challenge you now, but if Caff's dibs count, then I'll take the next dibs, please.

[celliottii]

Here is the ruling on DIBS...

Initially, T4 claimed DIBS while Leehar and iAC had their match going on. When T4 withdrew his claim, iAC claimed DIBS...I had forgotten that iAC had already lost to Leehar and needed to either wait or challenge another player (since he's #2, he has to wait). Rule #10 applies.

Therefore, iAmCaffeine must wait until another player challenges Leehar, then iAC can call DIBS.

DIBS is open and a PM is being sent to the Top 4.

On another note that I just noticed...Rule #9 and Rule #10 contradict each other.

9. If you challenge someone AND win, you take over their Ladder rung. The loser will lose one spot on the Ladder.

10. If you challenge someone AND lose, you will retain your Ladder rung, but you cannot re-challenge that player until after you have challenged someone else. For example, you are #9 and challenge and lose to the #6 player, you cannot challenge the #6 player until you challenge either #7 or #8.

Rule #9 states the loser will lose one rung, yet Rule #10 states the loser retains their spot. I have never penalized the loser, so I will be striking "The loser will lose one spot on the Ladder" from the rules.

Chuck

[Leehar]

I think the part of losing your spot on the ladder comes about because the person who won jumps above you?

Duk, I'm ready when you are.

[TheMissionary]

Where is the ranking list?

[Dukasaur]

Where is the ranking list?

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Subject: SoC 1v1 Ladder Challenge

Current standings: SoC Grads 1v1 Ladder

I think the part of losing your spot on the ladder comes about because the person who won jumps above you?

Duk, I'm ready when you are.

Coming soon.

[Dukasaur]

Duk, I'm ready when you are.

Coming soon.

I decided I'd better get it done while it's fresh in my mind....

Game 14679204
Game 14679206

Games sent.

[celliottii]

I think the part of losing your spot on the ladder comes about because the person who won jumps above you?

Duk, I'm ready when you are.

When Macbone and I were first drafting the rules and the Ladder, we wanted to create a "consequence" (for lack of a better word) for a lower seeded player when they issued a challenge and lost...Also, if the challenger is really bad (like me), you get stuck trying to beat players who have beaten you before.

[celliottii]

Where is the ranking list?

Mish...here it is..let me know if you can see it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au8mY2GzKMmZdDAzRVAtVm1fX1dXM0NqZGZjWkdvclE&usp=sharing

[celliottii]

Duk, I'm ready when you are.

Coming soon.

I decided I'd better get it done while it's fresh in my mind....

Game 14679204
Game 14679206

Games sent.

Ladder is updated...

[MGSteve]

Here is the ruling on DIBS...

Initially, T4 claimed DIBS while Leehar and iAC had their match going on. When T4 withdrew his claim, iAC claimed DIBS...I had forgotten that iAC had already lost to Leehar and needed to either wait or challenge another player (since he's #2, he has to wait). Rule #10 applies.

Therefore, iAmCaffeine must wait until another player challenges Leehar, then iAC can call DIBS.

DIBS is open and a PM is being sent to the Top 4.

On another note that I just noticed...Rule #9 and Rule #10 contradict each other.

9. If you challenge someone AND win, you take over their Ladder rung. The loser will lose one spot on the Ladder.

10. If you challenge someone AND lose, you will retain your Ladder rung, but you cannot re-challenge that player until after you have challenged someone else. For example, you are #9 and challenge and lose to the #6 player, you cannot challenge the #6 player until you challenge either #7 or #8.

Rule #9 states the loser will lose one rung, yet Rule #10 states the loser retains their spot. I have never penalized the loser, so I will be striking "The loser will lose one spot on the Ladder" from the rules.

Chuck

Chuck, these 2 rules don't contradict each other. When you challenge someone and win, you take that person's spot and he therefore drops one rung as well as the 2 below him if you challenged the 3rd rung above you. The 3 who were above you retain the same order but are all 1 rung lower with the bottom player now in your former spot.

But when you challenge someone and lose, you don't move up. So you don't knock them off their rung and no one moves because the challenger didn't move up. So the rules are fine as stated with no contradictions.

And I managed to beat Duk which puts me at #3 so how soon can I call dibs?!

[iAmCaffeine]

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

[ganguscalm]

Once again ! ganguscalm challenges the ladder ...
mackadoo , I challenge YOU ... ...
random Game 14662866
my map and terms .. Game 14662869
pw : elvis
uh huh huh

[MGSteve]

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

So I guess I have dibs after you?

[celliottii]

Chuck, these 2 rules don't contradict each other. When you challenge someone and win, you take that person's spot and he therefore drops one rung as well as the 2 below him if you challenged the 3rd rung above you. The 3 who were above you retain the same order but are all 1 rung lower with the bottom player now in your former spot.

But when you challenge someone and lose, you don't move up. So you don't knock them off their rung and no one moves because the challenger didn't move up. So the rules are fine as stated with no contradictions.

And I managed to beat Duk which puts me at #3 so how soon can I call dibs?!

Thanks for the 3rd party explanation/interpretation...I must have had a senior moment when I went and read them...I've corrected my error.

I got the win recorded for you...Right now, iAmCaffeine has DIBS...once his match with the Ladder champ is posted, then you can call DIBS.

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

Yep...and it's been posted....

Once again ! ganguscalm challenges the ladder ...
mackadoo , I challenge YOU ... ...
random Game 14662866
my map and terms .. Game 14662869
pw : elvis
uh huh huh

Got your challenge recorded...

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

So I guess I have dibs after you?

No...you cannot "reserve" DIBS...Rule #16

[Dukasaur]

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

So I guess I have dibs after you?

No...you cannot "reserve" DIBS...Rule #16

That would be called "double dibbing"

[Leehar]

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

So I guess I have dibs after you?

No...you cannot "reserve" DIBS...Rule #16

That would be called "double dibbing"

Isn't that how Caff got dibs originally? I don't recall him calling dibs after Duk?

[celliottii]

grrrrrrrr.............

[iAmCaffeine]

I've got dibs for the match between Leehar and Duk.

So I guess I have dibs after you?

No...you cannot "reserve" DIBS...Rule #16

That would be called "double dibbing"

Isn't that how Caff got dibs originally? I don't recall him calling dibs after Duk?

But then I did call dibs, and if saying "I have dibs after such and such" doesn't count then I call dibs now, since nobody else has done that directly.

[celliottii]

do ya'll see that grrrrrrrrrrrr up there? It means I'm a bit frustrated...we're all grown ups, playing a game...with all due respect, but some of ya'll have been acting/sounding like little kids about DIBS.

Let me be clear on this....

Leehar and Dukasaur are playing right now for the #1 spot....

iAmCaffeine is #2 and therefore cannot challenge anyone, so he can call DIBS and did call DIBS....iAC has to wait until Leehar has played another challenge before he can vie for the #1 again...so iAC has DIBS....period.

MGSteve did not know that he could not reserve DIBS....so NO ONE is in line for DIBS until after Lee and Duk finish their match.

If you are still confused, upset, or pissy....then please refer to Rule #24.

Now, I could break out the Dan Patrick "Wheel of Punishment" if anyone else wants to chime in on this in a negative way...

[iAmCaffeine]

I feel whipped.

[Dukasaur]

do ya'll see that grrrrrrrrrrrr up there? It means I'm a bit frustrated...we're all grown ups, playing a game...with all due respect, but some of ya'll have been acting/sounding like little kids about DIBS.

Let me be clear on this....

Leehar and Dukasaur are playing right now for the #1 spot....

iAmCaffeine is #2 and therefore cannot challenge anyone, so he can call DIBS and did call DIBS....iAC has to wait until Leehar has played another challenge before he can vie for the #1 again...so iAC has DIBS....period.

MGSteve did not know that he could not reserve DIBS....so NO ONE is in line for DIBS until after Lee and Duk finish their match.

If you are still confused, upset, or pissy....then please refer to Rule #24.

Now, I could break out the Dan Patrick "Wheel of Punishment" if anyone else wants to chime in on this in a negative way...

That is blatantly plagiarized from Palladium: http://docs7.chomikuj.pl/2517487413,PL,0,0,12.-Library-of-Bletherad.pdf