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b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns [warned]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:02 pm
by Beckytheblondie
Accused:

b00060

The accused are suspected of:

Other: Begins multiple casual MANUAL freestyle City Mogul games and purposely misses deployment phase (no disadvantage because deployment is inoperative on city mogul map). b00060, then, has the opportunity to move first, essentially making these all sequential games in which he GOES FIRST IN ALL OF THEM.

Game number(s):

Game 5665002
Game 5664999
Game 5666553
Game 5669465
Game 5669464
Game 5669462
Game 5666566
Game 5666565
Game 5666564
Game 5666563
Game 5666557
Game 5666556
Game 5665003
and more....



Comments: Worse than the double turn move. First player to play on City Mogul wins 80% of the time.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:09 pm
by ronsizzle
why do people feel the need to do shit like this?

i mean really? i thought b00060 was a good guy. i am surprised by these tactics.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:13 pm
by the.killing.44
Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden.

I'm with ron…

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:52 pm
by BoganGod
Does he admit to doing it deliberately in game chat? Players should just foe and rate him accordingly. Missing turns is not against the rules, so he is playing within the rules, but quite possibly not within the spirt of the game.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:26 pm
by hwhrhett
BoganGod wrote:Does he admit to doing it deliberately in game chat? Players should just foe and rate him accordingly. Missing turns is not against the rules, so he is playing within the rules, but quite possibly not within the spirt of the game.



Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:41 pm
by alster
Beckytheblondie wrote:Accused:

b00060

The accused are suspected of:

Other: Begins multiple casual MANUAL freestyle City Mogul games and purposely misses deployment phase (no disadvantage because deployment is inoperative on city mogul map). b00060, then, has the opportunity to move first, essentially making these all sequential games in which he GOES FIRST IN ALL OF THEM.

Game number(s):

Game 5665002
Game 5664999
Game 5666553
Game 5669465
Game 5669464
Game 5669462
Game 5666566
Game 5666565
Game 5666564
Game 5666563
Game 5666557
Game 5666556
Game 5665003
and more....



Comments: Worse than the double turn move. First player to play on City Mogul wins 80% of the time.


Brilliant! That's the way to do it - taking advantage of the game engine can never be a C&A-issue. It's simply tactics.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:57 pm
by BoganGod
Playing devils advocate here. Just because its not against the rules, doesn't mean it isn't cheap. Maybe accusation should be game engine assisted farming?

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:57 pm
by HardAttack
Once more time, freestyle gaming stinks. :|

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:03 pm
by alex951
he foed me because i use his tactic against him and won 3 out of 6 games i had with him :D

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:04 pm
by ronsizzle
alex951 wrote:he foed me because i use his tactic against him and won 3 out of 6 games i had with him :D



he might have foed you for joining 6 games of his. i dont like people joining my games like that.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:35 am
by HardAttack
alex951 wrote:he foed me because i use his tactic against him and won 3 out of 6 games i had with him :D


If ever b06000 gets warned/fined, then is it gonna apply to you too ?

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:41 am
by ronsizzle
HardAttack wrote:
alex951 wrote:he foed me because i use his tactic against him and won 3 out of 6 games i had with him :D


If ever b06000 gets warned/fined, then is it gonna apply to you too ?



great question.

i think the answer is only if someone reports him.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:42 pm
by alex951
ronc8649 wrote:
alex951 wrote:he foed me because i use his tactic against him and won 3 out of 6 games i had with him :D



he might have foed you for joining 6 games of his. i dont like people joining my games like that.


he joined my games

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:44 pm
by alex951
i know this is way off topic but, why are all my medals bronze? i just noticed

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:47 pm
by alex951
HardAttack wrote:
alex951 wrote:he foed me because i use his tactic against him and won 3 out of 6 games i had with him :D


If ever b06000 gets warned/fined, then is it gonna apply to you too ?


no

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:54 pm
by b00060
Exactly, I joined your games and took the first move for deployment. Sometimes I don't care about deploying first and there is nothing saying when you join a freestyle game that you have to deploy first. You are the one that missed the first turn in this game and didn't win alex951. How is that cheating? Game 5633988. I am not forcing anyone to make the first deploy in any of my games. They can join and wait for me to make the first move.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:02 pm
by ronsizzle
b00060 wrote:Exactly, I joined your games and took the first move for deployment. Sometimes I don't care about deploying first and there is nothing saying when you join a freestyle game that you have to deploy first. You are the one that missed the first turn in this game and didn't win alex951. How is that cheating? Game 5633988. I am not forcing anyone to make the first deploy in any of my games. They can join and wait for me to make the first move.



how does this relate to the accusation? the accusation is intentional deadbeating.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:07 pm
by TheMissionary
Username: b00060
Rank: Major
Score: 2490
Games: 10473 completed, 4266 (41%) won | Find all games with b00060
Attendance: 100% of turns taken

i think this proves the deadbeating point of this topic.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:08 pm
by ronsizzle
TheMissionary wrote:Username: b00060
Rank: Major
Score: 2490
Games: 10473 completed, 4266 (41%) won | Find all games with b00060
Attendance: 100% of turns taken

i think this proves the deadbeating point of this topic.



hey missionary! the manual deployments just came out.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:14 pm
by b00060
Read the game Game 5633988 ronc8649 and you tell me who (hint: it was not b00060) missed a turn in the first round and who won (hint: it was b00060. Missing a deployment round does not = deadbeating.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:21 pm
by ronsizzle
ok, b, i saw that.

and you know i like you.

but i also know that mogul games are won 80 percent of the time by the person who goes first. and the list that becky gave all have you missing the deployment round. which to me is deadbeating. how is it not deadbeating? you are missing a round of play?

i dont like cheap shit like that. double turns are finally gone, and now cc's game engine gives someone a chance to exploit a cheap tactic. i dont know man. i dont like it.

i am all for warnings given out, and nothing more. or not even warnings, just, fix it, and whoever is doing it, stop. cc isnt all about points. jesus christ? why do people fixate themselves on shit like this? i dont know.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:27 pm
by alex951
b00060 wrote:Exactly, I joined your games and took the first move for deployment. Sometimes I don't care about deploying first and there is nothing saying when you join a freestyle game that you have to deploy first. You are the one that missed the first turn in this game and didn't win alex951. How is that cheating? Game 5633988. I am not forcing anyone to make the first deploy in any of my games. They can join and wait for me to make the first move.


hey i didn't say you were cheating

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:40 pm
by alex951
ronc8649 wrote: i am all for warnings given out, and nothing more. or not even warnings, just, fix it, and whoever is doing it, stop. cc isnt all about points. jesus christ? why do people fixate themselves on shit like this? i dont know.


i agree, the only solution that will really work is fixing it.

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:11 pm
by TheMissionary
Deployment and turns are not the same thing. If you miss deployment is it not auto-deployed?

Re: b00060 Manual Cheat / Missed Turns

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:21 pm
by ronsizzle
TheMissionary wrote:Deployment and turns are not the same thing. If you miss deployment is it not auto-deployed?



so you think missing deployment intentionally is not gross abuse of the game?

seriously?

quit playing the devils advocate dude. your fucking point sucks.