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saxitoxin wrote:Accused:

skylab2010
Aalmei




The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy





Game number(s):

Game 5548392



Comments:

Violation of Rule #2: "Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand."
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

ATTENTION VALUED MODS!!!

I was having a grand time in game 5548392, paying little heed to the game chat but - when I did - I noticed a secret pact had been concluded between two players using the Portuguese language. Fortunately, I am fluent in Portuguese (and 7 other languages), however, one of my opponents - who would have been paying attention to the game chat - was not, ergo, the pact was allowed to develop without interference.

I believe this was inadvertent and unintentional but impacted the outcome of the game and would like to request all transferred points be back-awarded with no further sanction or penalty on the players involved (we hugged it out later on).

Symmetry wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:Accused:

skylab2010
Aalmei




The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy





Game number(s):

Game 5548392



Comments:

Violation of Rule #2: "Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand."
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

ATTENTION VALUED MODS!!!

I was having a grand time in game 5548392, paying little heed to the game chat but - when I did - I noticed a secret pact had been concluded between two players using the Portuguese language. Fortunately, I am fluent in Portuguese (and 7 other languages), however, one of my opponents - who would have been paying attention to the game chat - was not, ergo, the pact was allowed to develop without interference.

I believe this was inadvertent and unintentional but impacted the outcome of the game and would like to request all transferred points be back-awarded with no further sanction or penalty on the players involved (we hugged it out later on).

Any particular reason why you didn't tell your opponent about the pact that you'd uncovered? Log shows you gave him three turns after you started chatting to them in Portuguese. If the pact was allowed to develop without interference, you are also to blame dude.

colton24 wrote:Not secret diplomacy

Colton24: 100
Saxitoxin: 0

colton24 wrote:It's easy to tell:

2009-09-06 17:05:58 - skylab2010: que tal um pacto yellow?
Then yellow says OK they put it in the chat you can :
1. translate it
2. figure out on your own that pacto=pact or allaince and yellow= well yellow

Secret Diplomacy is only when not put in game chat.

colton24 wrote:It's easy to tell:

2009-09-06 17:05:58 - skylab2010: que tal um pacto yellow?
Then yellow says OK they put it in the chat you can :
1. translate it
2. figure out on your own that pacto=pact or allaince and yellow= well yellow

Secret Diplomacy is only when not put in game chat.

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand.

hecter wrote:

colton24 wrote:It's easy to tell:

2009-09-06 17:05:58 - skylab2010: que tal um pacto yellow?
Then yellow says OK they put it in the chat you can :
1. translate it
2. figure out on your own that pacto=pact or allaince and yellow= well yellow

Secret Diplomacy is only when not put in game chat.

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand.

saxitoxin wrote:I appreciate everyone's continued support. However, while I disagree with colton's decision I respect it and agree to accept it.

The case is closed.

Symmetry wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:I appreciate everyone's continued support. However, while I disagree with colton's decision I respect it and agree to accept it.

The case is closed.

Oh, I dunno- were you involved in diplomatic discussions in a language that not all players could understand? Cos it looks like you were, and then tried to get points out of it after it was certain that that player was going to be eliminated and that you weren't going to win. That's pretty sneaky.

That and you're now pretending to be a mod and closing discussion.

saxitoxin wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:Accused:

skylab2010
Aalmei




The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy





Game number(s):

Game 5548392



Comments:

Violation of Rule #2: "Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand."
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

ATTENTION VALUED MODS!!!

I was having a grand time in game 5548392, paying little heed to the game chat but - when I did - I noticed a secret pact had been concluded between two players using the Portuguese language. Fortunately, I am fluent in Portuguese (and 7 other languages), however, one of my opponents - who would have been paying attention to the game chat - was not, ergo, the pact was allowed to develop without interference.

I believe this was inadvertent and unintentional but impacted the outcome of the game and would like to request all transferred points be back-awarded with no further sanction or penalty on the players involved (we hugged it out later on).

Any particular reason why you didn't tell your opponent about the pact that you'd uncovered? Log shows you gave him three turns after you started chatting to them in Portuguese. If the pact was allowed to develop without interference, you are also to blame dude.

As the rule is written:

"Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand."

1. Saxi did not engage in "diplomatic discussion" just some light conversation about women, wine and food.

2. While I understood the "diplomatic discussions" occurring in Portuguese, the fourth opponent did not.

EDIT: I am distraught at having been subjected to Secret Diplomacy and would like to amend my original C&A to request that I be awarded 50 bonus points due to anguish.

the.killing.44 wrote:In all fairness he/they was/were only talking about politics, Salazar, and some history.

colton24 wrote:It's easy to tell:

2009-09-06 17:05:58 - skylab2010: que tal um pacto yellow?
Then yellow says OK they put it in the chat you can :
1. translate it
2. figure out on your own that pacto=pact or allaince and yellow= well yellow

Secret Diplomacy is only when not put in game chat.

saxitoxin wrote:OK, I lied about not replying to your additional comments - sue me.

1 - I wanted you to cut and paste part of the game log that indicated I was party to the secret diplomacy as you had accused me. You failed to do so and I have reported you to colton24 for flaming.

2 - I have zero obligation to notify anyone of secret diplomacy. The rules prohibit secret diplomacy, the rules do not command that an innocent player who ambles upon secret diplomacy notify other players. If you think poor ol' saxi is gonna voluntarily play the part of the Good Samaritan, you clearly do not know him.

3 - All points are, as I have said, moot. Colton has already issued a ruling, I've accepted the ruling and withdrawn the complaint. The horse is dead and the horse's mare would appreciate it if you stopped beating her dead colt. (note: the preceding was a modified "beating a dead horse" analogy, not a death threat against colton24)

In a Spirit of Tolerance and Diversity,
STX