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Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse [settled]

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:43 am
by alster
Accused:

Neptune1


The accused are suspected of:

Other: Continuous rating abuse



Game number(s):

n/a


Comments: Neptune1 was formally warned for rating abuse on Friday, August 7th, 2009 at 03:51, see
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93743

Since then, Neptune1 has issued 5 new ratings (comparing ratings left, find games for each rating looking at the date/time respective game ended for these five ratings). All 5 new ratings issued have been 1-1-1. I believe that this should constitute continuous rating abuse and that the sanctions against this should be notched up one step on the relevant ladder used sanctioning this kind of behavior. After having received a warning, the behavior in question should immediate cease.

Summary (incl. some nice game chat lines):
steon2007
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Bad Teammate, Uncooperative, Clueless
Game 5261032
2009-08-06 07:36:48 - Gustaf Wasa, Crash_22, alstergren won the game

alstergren
1-1-1
Game 5261032
2009-08-06 07:36:48 - Gustaf Wasa, Crash_22, alstergren won the game

pconnolly365
1-1-1
Game 5379381
2009-08-05 21:04:35 - Neptune1 eliminated pconnolly365 from the game
2009-08-05 21:03:56 - Neptune1: fuckwit

Saied
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Game 5373710
2009-08-04 21:54:26 - Neptune1 won the game
2009-08-04 21:40:17 - Neptune1: deadbeat cunt

h3ll0
1-1-1
Game 5360234
2009-08-02 12:48:24 - Neptune1 was kicked out for missing too many turns
2009-08-02 12:48:24 - h3ll0 won the game

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:30 am
by BoganGod
Nice call mate, another worthy addition to my foe list. :)

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:34 pm
by Artimis
Yep, I've got an empty slot for him on my foe list right next to codeblue.

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:46 pm
by owenshooter
neptune1 is a chronic abuser. he also likes to send abusive PM's and then start bogus C&A threads against members when he loses to them. i have had the pleasure of him stalking my games simply to give me poor ratings, after losing soundly to me and jbrettlip. his, across the board, one star rating of me was laughable. here is the bogus C&A thread started about me and jbrettlip.

Subject: OWENSHOOTER & JBRETTLIP - MULTIS ?? [Cleared]

Neptune1 is the only member on my foe list, and that means alot, especially if you know me and my feelings about the foe list. Neptune 1 is a chronic abuser of the ratings, game chat and PM's... i doubt anything will be done about him, but it would be nice if he was finally give a mini-vacation for his non-stop abusive behaviour towards other members...-0

p.s.-alster, jag alsker dig!!!

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:35 am
by alster
To make a brief clarification:

As I see it - only when the game is archived will the new or changed rating appear, i.e. 5 days after completion of the game. I take the view (albeit this could be interpreted otherwise) that a rating is handed out at the time it goes into effect, i.e. when the game is archived. These 5 games were archived after the warning. It means that the 5 ratings were still under Neptune1's control at the time of the warning. By not changing them, he continued the abuse.

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:49 am
by owenshooter
alstergren wrote:These 5 games were archived after the warning. It means that the 5 ratings were still under Neptune1's control at the time of the warning. By not changing them, he continued the abuse.

he received a warning? and then continued the same behaviour? this has to be dealt with. i was given a warning for responding to his abusive PM's, based solely on my "reputation"... so, i don't believe my serious accusation about him was ever taken seriously. it is nice to see another prominent member finally standing up about this, because it wasnt' taken seriously when i did... the chickens are coming home to roost!-0

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:15 pm
by alster
Update: Neptune1 was formally warned for rating abuse on Friday, August 7th, 2009 at 03:51. Additional ratings that have been posted (through the games now being archived) have now surfaced. Again, IMO the action of handing out ratings become effective once a game is archived and, thus, the user cannot any longer influence or control the ratings. Consequently, after his warning, Neptune1 has allowed abusive ratings to continue to be handed out.

See additionally:

KingGarnettMVP
1-1-1
Game 5384938
2009-08-06 21:03:25 - KingGarnettMVP eliminated Neptune1 from the game

DBo
1-1-1
Tags: Sore Loser, Cheap Tactics
Game 5388548
2009-08-07 11:44:40 - Neptune1 eliminated DBo from the game

Thierryr
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Cheap Tactics
Game 5388536
2009-08-07 11:47:56 - Neptune1 eliminated thierryr from the game

twat
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Game 5344270
2009-07-30 11:49:56 - twat eliminated Neptune1 from the game

confx
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Game 5390221
2009-08-07 19:58:36 - Neptune1 eliminated confx from the game
2009-08-07 19:58:36 - Neptune1 won the game

Nice quotes:
2009-08-07 19:46:38 - Neptune1: ?????????????????????????????
2009-08-07 19:47:05 - Neptune1: FINISH YOUR TURN FOR FUCKS SAKE
2009-08-07 19:48:19 - Neptune1: PATHETIC

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:36 pm
by Night Strike
alstergren wrote:
KingGarnettMVP
1-1-1
Game 5384938
2009-08-06 21:03:25 - KingGarnettMVP eliminated Neptune1 from the game

DBo
1-1-1
Tags: Sore Loser, Cheap Tactics
Game 5388548
2009-08-07 11:44:40 - Neptune1 eliminated DBo from the game

Thierryr
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Cheap Tactics
Game 5388536
2009-08-07 11:47:56 - Neptune1 eliminated thierryr from the game

twat
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Game 5344270
2009-07-30 11:49:56 - twat eliminated Neptune1 from the game

confx
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Game 5390221
2009-08-07 19:58:36 - Neptune1 eliminated confx from the game
2009-08-07 19:58:36 - Neptune1 won the game

Nice quotes:
2009-08-07 19:46:38 - Neptune1: ?????????????????????????????
2009-08-07 19:47:05 - Neptune1: FINISH YOUR TURN FOR FUCKS SAKE
2009-08-07 19:48:19 - Neptune1: PATHETIC


In a slight defense of him, you're assuming that he logged on between the time the warning was sent and that game rating for confx was archived. As well as having the time to change the ratings. In my mind, I would include those with the previous warning and start counting toward the next punishment step with the rating he left for steon2007.

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:53 pm
by alster
Night Strike wrote:In a slight defense of him, you're assuming that he logged on between the time the warning was sent and that game rating for confx was archived. As well as having the time to change the ratings. In my mind, I would include those with the previous warning and start counting toward the next punishment step with the rating he left for steon2007.


He has played +3500 games. He's on. And he's capable of reading his mail.

Took 30 sec to find a speed game he played the 9th, two days after his warning:
Game 5396902

I don not see why he is not responsible for the ratings made effective subsequent the date/time of the warning. A slight grace period may be in order, but 5-days is way too long. Doesn't make sense to differ between action and inaction as he had complete control over the ratings citet above.

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:56 am
by alster
This is getting absolutely ridiculous...

Brann2006
1-0-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Left: 2009-08-08 10:14:19

sjnap
0-1-1
Tags: Sore Loser, Clueless
Left: 2009-08-08 15:10:31

Michael Juniper
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Left: 2009-08-08 15:42:14

Shino Tenshi
1-0-1
Left: 2009-08-09 11:19:14

Arctur
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Sore Loser, Quitter, Clueless
Left: 2009-08-09 17:34:34

steon2007
1-1-1
Tags: Deadbeat, Bad Teammate, Uncooperative, Clueless
Left: 2009-08-09 17:36:46

Shedread
1-0-0
Tags: Deadbeat
Left: 2009-08-09 18:14:14


How cannot such blatant behavor constitute a clear case of continuous rating abuse?

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:17 pm
by sjnap
I totally agree with alstergren on this!
I really dont understand why ppl like Neptune are allowed for being abusive and talking trash.
To be honest, it takes my fun away.
I have seen plenty of players like him. Even more abusive players like him.
After the game he wrote in gamechat he would put me on the foelist :lol:
Well I dont care about the ratings, because of this. Many ppl giving a poor rating for nothing.
I think the ratings are really a mockery :!:

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:57 pm
by BoganGod
It is the new environmental laws, governing protected species. He probably thinks that since mods don't remove ratings, if he is going to get hanged for the offense he may as well make sure he is hanged for as much as possible, do as much damage to peoples reputation whilst the powers that be dither away. Of course I've been accused of been cynical in the past. He could genuinely feel that the players all deserved those ratings........

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:29 pm
by owenshooter
alstergren wrote:How cannot such blatant behavor constitute a clear case of continuous rating abuse?

well, i figured it was because i reported it, and eventually ended up being warned for pm's i sent to him in retaliation for his abusive pm's... however, i was told to foe him and move along... that did not and does not solve the problem if him continually abusing players in pms, game chat and RATINGS... his ratings abuse is easily proved with a simple glance of his ratings left. i have full confidence in king and lance, i'm sure he'll get more than a warning, as this is not his first offense in the C&A's... i'm pretty sure he received a 3 day ban at the same time i received mine...-0

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:11 am
by king achilles
After checking his recent ratings, Neptune1 has been given a 1 month ratings vacation.

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse [settled]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:20 am
by Neptune1
BOO FUCKING HOO !!!1

I'M DEVASTATED !!!

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse [settled]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:04 am
by owenshooter
Neptune1 wrote:BOO FUCKING HOO !!!1

I'M DEVASTATED !!!

he won't learn his lesson... i hope this is the first step in his getting booted... he is truly a detriment to the site, and actually adversely affects all of us by running off new recruits with his abusive behaviour... this is not his first trip into C&A, and his last childish post shows exactly why... i hope the mods keep an eye on his activities... someone like this is far worse than a person that posts off colour remarks in the forums. why doesn't team CC crack down where adverse behaviour actually matters, in the games?...-0

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse [settled]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:42 pm
by Neptune1
As for that knob head Owenshooter - what an ugly, weasel faced mother fucker he looks !! I had quite a laugh seeing that. Is he gay ???

Re: Neptune1 - Continuous rating abuse [settled]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:49 pm
by Jace22
Neptune1 wrote:As for that knob head Owenshooter - what an ugly, weasel faced mother fucker he looks !! I had quite a laugh seeing that. Is he gay ???

you gonna take owen