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Ariroto, BUGIO and Memo Lucero [busted]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:27 am
by delahoc
Accused:

Ariroto
BUGIO (note, there is also another player called Bugio (not all capitals)
Memo Lucero
Maybe also Pox?

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 5169086 my game
Game 5169182 all three playing together
Game 5146528
Game 5145369
Game 5134209
Game 5125510
Game 5124354

and others.

Comments:

This one just smells funny. All players hail from Brazil. All play each other a lot (several games include other players as well). However:

- Ariroto joined CC Mon Jun 22, 2009. He has played 9 games (various maps) and won 8. That in itself stinks to high heaven. The only one he lost was a 2-player game, and that to a player NOT from Brazil (and not from the group I've mentioned).

- BUGIO joined CC Mon Jun 15, 2009 . He has played 8 games (6 with Ariroto, 4 with Pox) and won 0.

- Pox joined CC Mon Jun 22, 2009 . He has played 12 games (4 with Ariroto, 4 with BUGIO, 4 with Bugio) and won 0.

A small group of players that pop up in each others' games isn't in itself suspicious. But when one of them constantly wins (89%) that flashes a warning light to me. As I said, I can't be certain, but it smells ...

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:14 pm
by delahoc
So no one has an opinion on this one????

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:45 am
by e_i_pi
Nice pick. Looks like multis to me:

Ariroto, Pox, and Memo Lucero all last logged in at 11:30pm 29th June
Bugio and BUGIO have their login times hidden, but the both joined within 30 minutes of one another

Also, in the game you played (Game 5169086) they took turns back to back, and once you were eliminated, Memo had the next go (holding SA and Africa) and didn't break Ariroto in NA or Oceania.

I've compiled some stats below, red are the sacrifical points lambs, blue are the harvesters:
Ariroto - 10/11 = 91% win rate
Bugio - 3/16 = 19% win rate
BUGIO - 0/9 = 0% win rate
Memo Lucero - 0/4 = 0% win rate
Pox - 0/13 = 0% win rate


And while the mods are at it, might be an idea to check these users also:

xibiu - 8/9 = 89% win rate
ElvisRei - 12/13 = 92% win rate

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:19 pm
by delahoc
Thanks e_i_pi.
Still it seems nothing is happening ....

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:18 pm
by slowreactor
Be patient my friend. The mods have a million things on their hands. They will get around to yours soon.

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:26 pm
by jefjef
It took four days for em to bust my obvious multi complaint.... They're on it.... P.S. it only took an hour or so for em to bust ccmodsarestupid.................... ;)

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:00 pm
by Tezu
e_i_pi wrote:Nice pick. Looks like multis to me:

I've compiled some stats below, red are the sacrifical points lambs, blue are the harvesters:
Ariroto - 10/11 = 91% win rate
Bugio - 3/16 = 19% win rate
BUGIO - 0/9 = 0% win rate
Memo Lucero - 0/4 = 0% win rate
Pox - 0/13 = 0% win rate


And while the mods are at it, might be an idea to check these users also:

xibiu - 8/9 = 89% win rate
ElvisRei - 12/13 = 92% win rate



I've played these games against Bugio:
Game 5151711
Game 5151705 with Pox
Game 5125198 with ElvisRei

The one I won was the one wich hadn't any of the others involved, in the other 2 I felt there was some kind of secret diplomacy, since they ganged up on me...
This makes me believe they are friends, and they are conducting secret diplomacy, since they don't attack eachother as much...

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:45 am
by king achilles
Guests.

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and Memo Lucero [busted]

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:37 am
by delahoc
Sorry? Guests? Not sure what thart means.

I note that the thread heading now says [busted], but I'd be curious to know exactly how many have been busted, and possibly who ... sorry, am I being too inquisitive?

Re: Ariroto, BUGIO and maybe Memo Lucero

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:56 am
by king achilles
e_i_pi wrote:I've compiled some stats below, red are the sacrifical points lambs, blue are the harvesters:
Ariroto - 10/11 = 91% win rate
Bugio - 3/16 = 19% win rate
BUGIO - 0/9 = 0% win rate
Memo Lucero - 0/4 = 0% win rate
Pox - 0/13 = 0% win rate

ElvisRei - 12/13 = 92% win rate