Conquer Club

Accused:

alex951



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Admitting to farming newbies on the City Mogul map through RT callouts chat room



Game number(s):

He was apparently bored last night and decided to watch a RT game that was posted in callouts. Game 5068340, relevant posts about his farming are below:

2009-06-11 20:55:57 - jakewilliams: btw you must be REALLY bored to be watching this game!
2009-06-11 20:56:00 - jakewilliams:
2009-06-11 20:57:47 - alex951: yea no one whats to step into my "farm land" lol
2009-06-11 20:58:31 - jakewilliams: lol that's what everyone is realizing I think...
2009-06-11 20:59:15 - alex951: i know that some noob will join it
2009-06-11 20:59:22 - alex951: they always do
2009-06-11 21:00:04 - jakewilliams: so you admit to farming? lol
2009-06-11 21:00:12 - jakewilliams: didn't know any farmers were honest enough to do that!
2009-06-11 21:00:24 - AllWhiteNikes: hey alex what map?
2009-06-11 21:00:54 - alex951: city mogul
2009-06-11 21:00:59 - alex951: yes i admit
2009-06-11 21:01:06 - alex951: started 2 days ago
2009-06-11 21:01:40 - jakewilliams: how many points have you gotten from it so far?
2009-06-11 21:02:04 - jakewilliams: I knew you were farming earlier, saw you exclude lanyards from your 1v1 challenge
2009-06-11 21:02:20 - alex951: like maybe 100
2009-06-11 21:02:21 - AllWhiteNikes: hey alex sounds kinda cool ill play
2009-06-11 21:02:32 - alex951: yea lanyards farms me lol
2009-06-11 21:02:50 - alex951: 5068321
2009-06-11 21:04:36 - jakewilliams: only 100 points? man that's not much
2009-06-11 21:05:19 - alex951: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ex951&so=D all of the city of mogul game i have farmed from
2009-06-11 21:05:28 - Miwlo: Hahahahaha
2009-06-11 21:13:37 - jakewilliams: I'm not a farmer, I don't go into games guaranteed to win
2009-06-11 21:15:21 - alex951: we'll why not
2009-06-11 21:17:08 - jakewilliams: farming isn't fun... that's why I always let the lower rank choose settings and map in callouts
2009-06-11 21:18:27 - alex951: your right there is no fun in it
2009-06-11 21:18:38 - alex951: i am just doing it to get my rank up
2009-06-11 21:50:24 - alex951: i just farmed someone else
2009-06-11 21:50:41 - alex951: Game 5068321 acually it was a close game


Comments:

He was hanging out in live chat most of the day yesterday, asking people to do 1v1 City Mogul and responding to any RT callouts with City Mogul games. He refuses to play people that are good at the map (see comment about Lanyards).

Jake

This one's in the bag.

what an idiot

Nice find

He is opening up his games just like any other player. Seems like you are pissed because you got beat in your game. CC will not do anything about this. Also there is nothing wrong with liking a map and sticking to it.

Bruceswar wrote:He is opening up his games just like any other player. Seems like you are pissed because you got beat in your game. CC will not do anything about this. Also there is nothing wrong with liking a map and sticking to it.

Actually I haven't played him - I have no interest in playing a map I know I will lose! I made the post because he is actively targeting people in RT callouts that he knows are not good at the map (that's why he refused to play Nagerous again). I saw him doing this in live chat and didn't report him, I figured one of the admins would do it if they felt it was in violation. If he would not have gloated about farming in the game chat, then I would not have reported him - but that is proof that he thinks he's farming. If the admins find that he isn't farming I'm fine with that. I don't have any vested interest since I haven't lost any points. I thought that it needed to be pointed out and looked at because he believes that he is farming and is intentionally targeting players that are not as good as him in order to win easy points.

I'm sure he's not a bad player, and I wouldn't hesitate to play him on another map, but for the good of the CC community I felt it should be reported.

Jake

I actually believe that he will get a warning at the least.... he deliberately refers to it as farming and knows what he is doing.... not a smart move, buddy.

Specializing is not farming. Just because I am good on map X does not make me a farmer. They joined my games and I see no problems with it.

Bruceswar wrote:Specializing is not farming. Just because I am good on map X does not make me a farmer. They joined my games and I see no problems with it.

soooo, sitting in callouts all day and asking noobs to join your RT games on complicated maps that you have mastered is not farming? ok...-0

owenshooter wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:Specializing is not farming. Just because I am good on map X does not make me a farmer. They joined my games and I see no problems with it.

soooo, sitting in callouts all day and asking noobs to join your RT games on complicated maps that you have mastered is not farming? ok...-0

In Callouts ( Live chat) that is most all you find. Freeium players who are Lt or less. Nothing wrong with playing real time games. Remember before speed games that is all there was.

i play lanyard and loose all the time, but i keep doing it to get better, and because i have played and lost to lanyard so many time i was able to beat king herpes. check my games and see how many time i have lost to lanyards. and i play all kinds of players not just ppl under LT, i ask ppl to join in call outs and if they agree they agree, i didn't want to play lanyard again because i wanted to see if i could win against someone else.

but you are right i should not have used the term 'farming" but hey i guess you could say that i "farmed" king herpes

jakewilliams wrote:Accused:

alex951



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Admitting to farming newbies on the City Mogul map through RT callouts chat room



Game number(s):

He was apparently bored last night and decided to watch a RT game that was posted in callouts. Game 5068340, relevant posts about his farming are below:

2009-06-11 20:55:57 - jakewilliams: btw you must be REALLY bored to be watching this game!
2009-06-11 20:56:00 - jakewilliams:
2009-06-11 20:57:47 - alex951: yea no one whats to step into my "farm land" lol
2009-06-11 20:58:31 - jakewilliams: lol that's what everyone is realizing I think...
2009-06-11 20:59:15 - alex951: i know that some noob will join it
2009-06-11 20:59:22 - alex951: they always do
2009-06-11 21:00:04 - jakewilliams: so you admit to farming? lol
2009-06-11 21:00:12 - jakewilliams: didn't know any farmers were honest enough to do that!
2009-06-11 21:00:24 - AllWhiteNikes: hey alex what map?
2009-06-11 21:00:54 - alex951: city mogul
2009-06-11 21:00:59 - alex951: yes i admit
2009-06-11 21:01:06 - alex951: started 2 days ago
2009-06-11 21:01:40 - jakewilliams: how many points have you gotten from it so far?
2009-06-11 21:02:04 - jakewilliams: I knew you were farming earlier, saw you exclude lanyards from your 1v1 challenge
2009-06-11 21:02:20 - alex951: like maybe 100
2009-06-11 21:02:21 - AllWhiteNikes: hey alex sounds kinda cool ill play
2009-06-11 21:02:32 - alex951: yea lanyards farms me lol
2009-06-11 21:02:50 - alex951: 5068321
2009-06-11 21:04:36 - jakewilliams: only 100 points? man that's not much
2009-06-11 21:05:19 - alex951: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ex951&so=D all of the city of mogul game i have farmed from
2009-06-11 21:05:28 - Miwlo: Hahahahaha
2009-06-11 21:13:37 - jakewilliams: I'm not a farmer, I don't go into games guaranteed to win
2009-06-11 21:15:21 - alex951: we'll why not
2009-06-11 21:17:08 - jakewilliams: farming isn't fun... that's why I always let the lower rank choose settings and map in callouts
2009-06-11 21:18:27 - alex951: your right there is no fun in it
2009-06-11 21:18:38 - alex951: i am just doing it to get my rank up
2009-06-11 21:50:24 - alex951: i just farmed someone else
2009-06-11 21:50:41 - alex951: Game 5068321 acually it was a close game


Comments:

He was hanging out in live chat most of the day yesterday, asking people to do 1v1 City Mogul and responding to any RT callouts with City Mogul games. He refuses to play people that are good at the map (see comment about Lanyards).

Jake

You obviosuly don't understand the farming rule. I searched "alex951+ 2 plyaer games + City Mogul"
- 58 games total, one of them with the current rank "?".

So unless you dig up players who were "?" at the time of the game, I don't really understand what you're talking about. "Farming" is perfectly alright as long as you don't do it against "?s".

alstergren wrote:You obviosuly don't understand the farming rule. I searched "alex951+ 2 plyaer games + City Mogul"
- 58 games total, one of them with the current rank "?".
So unless you dig up players who were "?" at the time of the game, I don't really understand what you're talking about. "Farming" is perfectly alright as long as you don't do it against "?s".

This brings up a question for me...when you do the search, doesn't it show the players' rank NOW (not the rank at the time the game was played)? I'm asking out of ignorance mostly...I THOUGHT that was how it worked?

Woodruff wrote:

alstergren wrote:You obviosuly don't understand the farming rule. I searched "alex951+ 2 plyaer games + City Mogul"
- 58 games total, one of them with the current rank "?".
So unless you dig up players who were "?" at the time of the game, I don't really understand what you're talking about. "Farming" is perfectly alright as long as you don't do it against "?s".

This brings up a question for me...when you do the search, doesn't it show the players' rank NOW (not the rank at the time the game was played)? I'm asking out of ignorance mostly...I THOUGHT that was how it worked?

Indeed, that is correct. That is why I wrote "So unless you dig up players who were "?" at the time of the game..." If he accuses someone of farming, I figured he should do the job in that case (I don't bother to join in on farming with hunts).

alstergren wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

alstergren wrote:You obviosuly don't understand the farming rule. I searched "alex951+ 2 plyaer games + City Mogul"
- 58 games total, one of them with the current rank "?".
So unless you dig up players who were "?" at the time of the game, I don't really understand what you're talking about. "Farming" is perfectly alright as long as you don't do it against "?s".

This brings up a question for me...when you do the search, doesn't it show the players' rank NOW (not the rank at the time the game was played)? I'm asking out of ignorance mostly...I THOUGHT that was how it worked?

Indeed, that is correct. That is why I wrote "So unless you dig up players who were "?" at the time of the game..." If he accuses someone of farming, I figured he should do the job in that case (I don't bother to join in on farming with hunts).

Oh, I got you...I thought you were saying "dig them up" via GameFinder...my misunderstanding.

I know Alex on CC here and I dont think he would do something like this but I will admit he beat me on that map. I however have played it before just never got good at it.

Am I the only one that noted his subtle use of irony? If he was really a farmer, he wouldn't admit to it. Look through my games, I don't consider myself to be a farmer, and I've had quite a few stretches where have had heaps of ? and cooks joining my feud 2player games. I'm not scared to play people of my own rank, just that there are only a handful that will take me on in feud 2player. . If he is a farmer... I'm the president of the USA.

So Obama has a CC...that's good to hear...lol...jk jk. I personally would only give him a warning, or just note the case. There is definitely not enough evidence to do anything serious, but there is some evidence, so clearing the case would not be useful.

Farming is allowed. Noob Farming is allowed. Newb Farming is not allowed.

Matt Hardy wrote:Farming is allowed. Noob Farming is allowed. Newb Farming is not allowed.

Rotf..lmao

As a newb, I have to say that Newb farming seems to happen quite alot.

I'm still stuck in 2 games setup by supergeek24, complex new style map, sequential play with lots of newbies = dropouts which = 3 day delay in the game per newbie drop out..... which causes more to get bored,give up, dropout, 3 day delay in the game... wash rinse repeat. Both games are now 1 on 1, or atleast will be in another week or so when the other new players get the boot. Result: The guy that setup the game gets an almost autowin in a big multiplayer game.

In another game I'm playing there's an obvious repeated offender multi.

So thats 3 of the 5 games I've been involved in being affected by gamesmanship or just outright cheating..... the other 2 I believe I'm just getting honestly dicked on

life's not easy at the bottom

This all sounds very serious. Something should be done immediately.

VinWraith wrote:As a newb, I have to say that Newb farming seems to happen quite alot.

I'm still stuck in 2 games setup by supergeek24, complex new style map, sequential play with lots of newbies = dropouts which = 3 day delay in the game per newbie drop out..... which causes more to get bored,give up, dropout, 3 day delay in the game... wash rinse repeat. Both games are now 1 on 1, or atleast will be in another week or so when the other new players get the boot. Result: The guy that setup the game gets an almost autowin in a big multiplayer game.

In another game I'm playing there's an obvious repeated offender multi.

So thats 3 of the 5 games I've been involved in being affected by gamesmanship or just outright cheating..... the other 2 I believe I'm just getting honestly dicked on

life's not easy at the bottom

so supergeek24 set up a public game and newbies join it........yea that sounds like farming to me

try setting up a dozen games simultaneously in a way that your all the games on the Join A Game list unless you scroll down some way and setup so it'll be a long game on an unusual map to discourage experienced players.
I can't be certain he did it intentionally, but that's what happened.

sorry for going off topic anyway btw.

btw Alex951, looking over your log file I'd say your innocent and just like the city mogul map, but I'm just a newb with a gripe so what do i know.