Conquer Club

Accused:

ampexreel7xl

The accused are suspected of:

Other: "bad language and racism"

"2009-05-24 03:20:11 - catalin98: look
2009-05-24 03:20:18 - catalin98: get your points back
2009-05-24 03:31:45 - ampexreel7xl: this is totallt fucked man, you i9nt no good man, its your luck and your dice ..NOT YOU
2009-05-24 03:35:07 - catalin98: thank you for the good words
2009-05-24 03:37:26 - ampexreel7xl: well man, its been your dice, not your tactics.. with dice ;like that, you could take king herpes.. but you suckler
2009-05-24 03:37:51 - catalin98: dude
2009-05-24 03:37:59 - catalin98: i played with king herpes
2009-05-24 03:38:05 - catalin98: and i won
2009-05-24 03:38:11 - catalin98: i play for fun
2009-05-24 03:38:15 - catalin98: not for the points
2009-05-24 03:38:59 - ampexreel7xl: then let me win this game and see if you're telling the truth...
2009-05-24 03:39:36 - catalin98: and what fun is that??
2009-05-24 03:40:14 - ampexreel7xl: another 0-4 son
2009-05-24 03:40:29 - catalin98: it is sad
2009-05-24 03:40:42 - ampexreel7xl: we'll play a renmatch for points.. how bout best of 3?
2009-05-24 03:41:12 - catalin98: whan i started to play conquer i almost got crazy because of the dice
2009-05-24 03:41:29 - catalin98: but...i have realised that i can't do nothing
2009-05-24 03:41:49 - ampexreel7xl: this game required ni skill from thr beginning..
2009-05-24 03:42:55 - ampexreel7xl: just let me win the game... we'll play 2 others if you say you dont care
2009-05-24 03:43:09 - catalin98: huh??
2009-05-24 03:43:30 - catalin98: let's just finish this game
2009-05-24 03:43:35 - ampexreel7xl: you said you dont care if you win or loose
2009-05-24 03:43:48 - catalin98: and not talk to eachother ever
2009-05-24 03:43:59 - ampexreel7xl: so youm really do want to win this chep ass game...
2009-05-24 03:44:12 - catalin98: u are not the kind of person i want to play with
2009-05-24 03:44:45 - catalin98: u have serious problems
2009-05-24 03:44:54 - catalin98: i am sorry
2009-05-24 03:45:01 - catalin98: i wish u a good day
2009-05-24 03:46:57 - ampexreel7xl: then get the f*ck out sof here you n beast and go pretend you know how to play fiar you little fartknocker
2009-05-24 03:48:12 - catalin98: well...now i will enjoy finishing u off
2009-05-24 03:48:16 - ampexreel7xl: ok... no
2009-05-24 03:48:24 - catalin98: good bye
2009-05-24 03:48:42 - ampexreel7xl: F_A_R_T_K_N_O_C_K_E_R fartknocked you old hagg
2009-05-24 03:49:13 - ampexreel7xl: 0 points across the cheao board for you stank black ass
2009-05-24 03:49:49 - catalin98: are u by any chance an idiot??
2009-05-24 03:51:43 - ampexreel7xl: no.. you cant conq. shit without your damn dice on
2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"

by ampexreel7xl
on 2009-05-24 03:52:08


The accused are suspected of:

Vulgar language
Racism



Game number(s):

4946969
4946933




Comments:
Just because he got bad dices he started to talk vulgar. I gave him the chance for a rematch but i got the same attitude.
It is not a verry nice way of time spending. I hope that people like him to be banned for this nice comunity.

catalin98 wrote:Accused:

ampexreel7xl

The accused are suspected of:

Other: "bad language and racism"

"2009-05-24 03:20:11 - catalin98: look
2009-05-24 03:20:18 - catalin98: get your points back
2009-05-24 03:31:45 - ampexreel7xl: this is totallt fucked man, you i9nt no good man, its your luck and your dice ..NOT YOU
2009-05-24 03:35:07 - catalin98: thank you for the good words
2009-05-24 03:37:26 - ampexreel7xl: well man, its been your dice, not your tactics.. with dice ;like that, you could take king herpes.. but you suckler
2009-05-24 03:37:51 - catalin98: dude
2009-05-24 03:37:59 - catalin98: i played with king herpes
2009-05-24 03:38:05 - catalin98: and i won
2009-05-24 03:38:11 - catalin98: i play for fun
2009-05-24 03:38:15 - catalin98: not for the points
2009-05-24 03:38:59 - ampexreel7xl: then let me win this game and see if you're telling the truth...
2009-05-24 03:39:36 - catalin98: and what fun is that??
2009-05-24 03:40:14 - ampexreel7xl: another 0-4 son
2009-05-24 03:40:29 - catalin98: it is sad
2009-05-24 03:40:42 - ampexreel7xl: we'll play a renmatch for points.. how bout best of 3?
2009-05-24 03:41:12 - catalin98: whan i started to play conquer i almost got crazy because of the dice
2009-05-24 03:41:29 - catalin98: but...i have realised that i can't do nothing
2009-05-24 03:41:49 - ampexreel7xl: this game required ni skill from thr beginning..
2009-05-24 03:42:55 - ampexreel7xl: just let me win the game... we'll play 2 others if you say you dont care
2009-05-24 03:43:09 - catalin98: huh??
2009-05-24 03:43:30 - catalin98: let's just finish this game
2009-05-24 03:43:35 - ampexreel7xl: you said you dont care if you win or loose
2009-05-24 03:43:48 - catalin98: and not talk to eachother ever
2009-05-24 03:43:59 - ampexreel7xl: so youm really do want to win this chep ass game...
2009-05-24 03:44:12 - catalin98: u are not the kind of person i want to play with
2009-05-24 03:44:45 - catalin98: u have serious problems
2009-05-24 03:44:54 - catalin98: i am sorry
2009-05-24 03:45:01 - catalin98: i wish u a good day
2009-05-24 03:46:57 - ampexreel7xl: then get the f*ck out sof here you n beast and go pretend you know how to play fiar you little fartknocker
2009-05-24 03:48:12 - catalin98: well...now i will enjoy finishing u off
2009-05-24 03:48:16 - ampexreel7xl: ok... no
2009-05-24 03:48:24 - catalin98: good bye
2009-05-24 03:48:42 - ampexreel7xl: F_A_R_T_K_N_O_C_K_E_R fartknocked you old hagg
2009-05-24 03:49:13 - ampexreel7xl: 0 points across the cheao board for you stank black ass
2009-05-24 03:49:49 - catalin98: are u by any chance an idiot??
2009-05-24 03:51:43 - ampexreel7xl: no.. you cant conq. shit without your damn dice on
2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"

by ampexreel7xl
on 2009-05-24 03:52:08


The accused are suspected of:

Vulgar language
Racism

Game number(s):

Game 4946969
Game 4946933

Comments:
Just because he got bad dices he started to talk vulgar. I gave him the chance for a rematch but i got the same attitude.
It is not a verry nice way of time spending. I hope that people like him to be banned for this nice comunity.

Added links.

2009-05-24 03:49:13 - ampexreel7xl: 0 points across the cheao board for you stank black ass

2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"

this is the kind of garbage that someone will get a warning for and no substantial ban. and if there is a ban, it will be 24 hours. luckily, andy is working towards changing the bigotry guidelines and their enforcement. trying to get this type of stuff correctly punished is like pulling teeth. people just don't get how offensive this is, and how truly wrong it is. this case is just another in a long line. luckily, the C&A mods will eventually have a new set of guidelines to help them deal with bigotry in a manner that is more appropriate to the violation. i applaud the member that turned this guy in. and i hope King Sam's suggestion of players losing game chat privileges over this kind of thing also becomes a reality... open and shut case here!!! get 'em lance!!!!!..-0

I put the pending tag on this thread (before owen posted). I am waiting for word from the admin on how to handle this case.

His signature is huge as well. ampexreel7xl

Wow. I'm speechless (and I'm sure a few good people who've seen my lengthy posts can respect the irony of that.)

Getting over my speechless moment for just a few seconds... let me say that this is appauling. The racism I won't even speak on, it would be beating a dead horse although it is the serious issue of my attention.

What I do find funny is the intent to gain the opponent's submission by hoping to both agree on bad dice. The concept that: "Well if you don't care about this game let me win and we'll play again" is ridiculous to me. Let's see how far I get if when I fall behind I ask people to throw the game and then start from scratch 2 more times. Puh-leez!

(Wow I didn't dissapoint did I? Even speechless I find something to type. I litterally am a beacon of self expression, it forces itself out of me)

Jasmine

good to see another racist ignorant member added to my list. Thanks for pointing out this player. Foed.

Rabid bunnies wrote:(I litterally am a beacon of self expression, it forces itself out of me)

Jasmine

Sounds painful, I do hope you're alright!

owenshooter wrote:
2009-05-24 03:49:13 - ampexreel7xl: 0 points across the cheao board for you stank black ass

2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"

this is the kind of garbage that someone will get a warning for and no substantial ban. and if there is a ban, it will be 24 hours. luckily, andy is working towards changing the bigotry guidelines and their enforcement. trying to get this type of stuff correctly punished is like pulling teeth. people just don't get how offensive this is, and how truly wrong it is. this case is just another in a long line. luckily, the C&A mods will eventually have a new set of guidelines to help them deal with bigotry in a manner that is more appropriate to the violation. i applaud the member that turned this guy in. and i hope King Sam's suggestion of players losing game chat privileges over this kind of thing also becomes a reality... open and shut case here!!! get 'em lance!!!!!..-0

owen is exactly right. here is the thread that will hopefully take off and give the admin another tool to work with to correctly punish and eventually rid this site of this behavior. It has already gotten a good rapport from other CC members but the more the merrier. I ask that you please support it so we can change this. Thanks

Soultion for this behavior in Sugs & Bugs

King Sam

king sam wrote:

owenshooter wrote:
2009-05-24 03:49:13 - ampexreel7xl: 0 points across the cheao board for you stank black ass

2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"

this is the kind of garbage that someone will get a warning for and no substantial ban. and if there is a ban, it will be 24 hours. luckily, andy is working towards changing the bigotry guidelines and their enforcement. trying to get this type of stuff correctly punished is like pulling teeth. people just don't get how offensive this is, and how truly wrong it is. this case is just another in a long line. luckily, the C&A mods will eventually have a new set of guidelines to help them deal with bigotry in a manner that is more appropriate to the violation. i applaud the member that turned this guy in. and i hope King Sam's suggestion of players losing game chat privileges over this kind of thing also becomes a reality... open and shut case here!!! get 'em lance!!!!!..-0

owen is exactly right. here is the thread that will hopefully take off and give the admin another tool to work with to correctly punish and eventually rid this site of this behavior. It has already gotten a good rapport from other CC members but the more the merrier. I ask that you please support it so we can change this. Thanks

Soultion for this behavior in Sugs & Bugs

King Sam

i support it and voted

Serbia wrote:

Rabid bunnies wrote:(I litterally am a beacon of self expression, it forces itself out of me)

Jasmine

Sounds painful, I do hope you're alright!

Oh it is... she can't help herself.

Selucid Empire wrote:

Serbia wrote:

Rabid bunnies wrote:(I litterally am a beacon of self expression, it forces itself out of me)

Jasmine

Sounds painful, I do hope you're alright!

Oh it is... she can't help herself.

awww....forget it. Don't want to be in trouble by anyone.

lancehoch wrote:I put the pending tag on this thread (before owen posted). I am waiting for word from the admin on how to handle this case.

i don't know why it matters when i posted or when you put the [Pending] on it... has nothing to do with what i stated. i think you guys do a great job, but i don't think bigotry is punished sufficiently, and now you guys are going to have a better set of guidelines to use as tools. no offense was meant by my post. i think you guys in C&A do a great job and are pretty much spot on with everything, and it is appreciate. i just don't agree with how bigotry has been handled here in the past, and it is obvious that andy is going to make changes. don't forget, i think you have become a MUCH BETTER mod here in C&A lance, i'd stick you in my top 3, easily... you do a great job, and i wasn't slagging on you or King A. sorry if you misunderstood...-0

p.s.-it will be even better if King Sam's suggestion goes through!!

I'm just waiting for "Foed and all 1 stars" to feature in here somewhere.

lancehoch wrote:I put the pending tag on this thread (before owen posted). I am waiting for word from the admin on how to handle this case.

Good move, Lance. It's worth the brief delay to get it taken care of properly.

As this was his/her first offense, ampexreel7xl has been Warned.

lancehoch wrote:As this was his/her first offense, ampexreel7xl has been Warned.

Simply a terrible ruling... terrible..

Bruceswar wrote:

lancehoch wrote:As this was his/her first offense, ampexreel7xl has been Warned.

Simply a terrible ruling... terrible..

Perhaps this is simply a case of "deal with it as we have been since the coming rules haven't been fully fleshed out yet". I'm willing to give lance that benefit of the doubt.

No, the punishment is following the new Community Guidelines. He received a Formal Warning as described below:

Subject: Community Guidelines

Community Guidelines wrote:Rule Enforcement

For users who break the above Guidelines, as they say, "there will be consequences and repercussions." The Mods and Admins will always take into account when past offenses occurred, and the severity of the current offense and any past offenses.

There are essentially Two Levels of Offense in Conquer Club: Minor and Major/Severe.

• Minor Offenses are those that are more annoying than hurtful with intent. This includes but is not limited to: Spamming, Off Topicing, Forms of Flaming/Trolling, Necro-bumping, Oversized Signature, Avatar Abuse, etc.
  Minor Offenses follow the traditional vacation escalation scale of:
  • Warning, 24 Hour Vacation, 72 Hour Vacation, One Week thru One Month Vacation, Permanent Vacation.
• Major/Severe Offenses are those that are more than just annoying, but are intentionally hurtful to a user, group of users, or the community in general. This includes but is not limited to: Cyber-bullying/Harassment, Bigotry, **Point Dumping** etc.
  Major/Severe Offenses follow a shortened vacation escalation scale of:
  • Warning, One Month Vacation, Permanent Vacation.
  **Note: Due to the nature of Point Dumping having an impact of the integrity of the game, your account will be suspended first until the issue can be resolved.**

• Warning
  
  • A user will almost always first receive a Warning from a Moderator or Admin for their first offense. A first offense may include, but is not limited to: Flaming outside the Flame Wars, Posting off topic, Improper use of avatar/signature, Harassing another user, Trolling a user's personal information, Improper use of ratings, etc.
  • There are two levels of warning, friendly and formal.
    
    • Friendly warnings are considered a reminder that you are near or just over the line of what is allowed and gives you the opportunity to make any necessary adjustments.
    • Formal warnings are more serious and should definitely be heeded. These are sent via PM with the title "Disciplinary Measures".
  • If you do get a warning from a mod, remember that "But this person broke the rule too" is not an excuse". Sure, lots of people are annoying, but that doesn't mean you're not. Don't try to deflect your guilt onto someone else. You broke a rule, own up to it and don't do it again. If someone else did break the rule, then report it using the "report post" button in the forum or PM a mod directly when in live chat. They may have already been warned even if it wasn't posted publicly.

why do people think it is bad to warn someone? most people on cc dont venture into the forums. let alone the community guidelines.

he wasnt being terribly racist either. what if he called me a stank white ass? is that racist?

come on guys, and when he said take me down .... that isnt terribly awful either.

he was talking in slang. where as black people have made that entire phrase popular amongs themselves, and rap lyrics. so repeating something black people say all the time is racist now?

his context was like saying the word "dog". like "come on dog, take me down". or "what up dog"?

maybe next time he says someone has a stank ass, he wont be so descriptive. all he was doing was describing the color of the stank ass.

if i refer to jesus as "black jesus". is that racist?

and yet you guys are crying for more punishment? hilarious.

come on ronc... We all know forum bans are usually not about the forums, rather the PM's. Not having the wall / PM fuction sucks. With that said. "2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"" That line should warrant at least a 24 hour ban. I thought that is why we had the whole discussion?

Bruceswar wrote:come on ronc... We all know forum bans are usually not about the forums, rather the PM's. Not have the wall / PM fuction sucks. With that said. "2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"" That line should warrant at least a 24 hour ban. I thought that is why we had the whole discussion?

Theres no point feeding the troll.

Bruceswar wrote:come on ronc... We all know forum bans are usually not about the forums, rather the PM's. Not having the wall / PM fuction sucks. With that said. "2009-05-24 03:52:08 - ampexreel7xl: rematch ho ass ho? c'mon... take me down nigg"" That line should warrant at least a 24 hour ban. I thought that is why we had the whole discussion?

That is why we had the discussion bruce. However, it was determined that a first offense should still receive a warning before a ban. If you (or anyone else) has a problem with the ruling, feel free to send an eticket.

lancehoch wrote:If you (or anyone else) has a problem with the ruling, feel free to send an eticket.

perhaps bruce hadn't seen the final product in the bigotry thread. i think lance applied the rule correctly and the decision is sound. i look forward to more productive rulings in the future. good job, lance...-0

owenshooter wrote:

lancehoch wrote:If you (or anyone else) has a problem with the ruling, feel free to send an eticket.

perhaps bruce hadn't seen the final product in the bigotry thread. i think lance applied the rule correctly and the decision is sound. i look forward to more productive rulings in the future. good job, lance...-0

I agree with what my multi said. Excellent job lance.