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Ultrafit - Cheating Machine? [noted]

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:03 pm
by Dcswift
Accused:

ultrafit


The accused are suspected of:

Other: Using a machine declared illegal... I think


Game number(s):

Game 4894125


Comments:
2009-05-15 16:46:13 - ultrafit assaulted Great Kingdom 7 from Great Kingdom 6 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:13 - Dcswift assaulted Rebel Territory 7 from Lake Minstello 5 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:13 - ultrafit assaulted Realm of Might 7 from Great Kingdom 7 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:14 - ultrafit assaulted Lake Minstello 13 from Realm of Might 7 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:15 - ultrafit assaulted Lake Minstello 11 from Lake Minstello 13 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:16 - ultrafit assaulted Lake Minstello 9 from Lake Minstello 11 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:17 - ultrafit assaulted Lake Minstello 10 from Lake Minstello 9 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:17 - ultrafit assaulted Lake Minstello 4 from Lake Minstello 10 and conquered it from neutral player
2009-05-15 16:46:18 - ultrafit assaulted Rebel Territory 7 from Lake Minstello 4 and conquered it from Dcswift
2009-05-15 16:46:18 - KraphtOne cashed in a group of Lake Minstello 8, Imperial Dynasty 3, and Northern Plains 15 worth 8 troops
2009-05-15 16:46:19 - ultrafit assaulted Lake Minstello 5 from Rebel Territory 7 and conquered it from Dcswift
2009-05-15 16:46:20 - ultrafit assaulted Barbarians 6 from Lake Minstello 5 and conquered it from Dcswift
2009-05-15 16:46:20 - ultrafit assaulted Barbarians 5 from Barbarians 6 and conquered it from Dcswift
2009-05-15 16:46:21 - ultrafit assaulted Barbarians 1 from Barbarians 5 and conquered it from Dcswift

DAT_WAT_SHE_SAID told me about 5 months back how someone created a machine to get ultra fast speed. I have never met anyone with this speed apart from when on msn he told me about this machine. 12 Territories, 7 Seconds. Thats impossible surely...

If I remember correctly DAT told me that you could put in your attack route and it would do it. Seems this is what happened here...

Dcswift

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:14 pm
by KongKamel
Seems to be a little fast yes, but than again: whats the point of being fast? it doesnt give you any advantages. O

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:16 pm
by LFAW
Wow thats fast!

enterprise47

Read that guys wall, hes the guy who made the script originally.

EDIT: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=72079

and the thread about the script


Same script or very similar? that is the question

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:28 pm
by apb23
But the question is it illegal?

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:30 pm
by LFAW
(From the thread above)

sully800 wrote:Enterprise, we don't think that this script is a good idea for the site. I would suggest not continuing to work on it because it creates a big disadvantage for the casual gamer (the kind of person this site is geared toward). I am personally pretty impressed with the power of your script and your intuition to see the need and how to make it work, but unfortunately it is not something that can be used on CC.

Based on your original question, I think you were checking if this type of script would be allowed, so I'm sorry to say that it isn't. I know you may receive pressure from some people to continue working on the script and distribute it secretly, but don't give in to that. If the script continues to be used a delay will just be added into the game engine to slow automated turns down to human speed, which will make the time spent on this script a waste. Sorry to give you the bad news, but maybe you can go through the suggestions board and try to make a script that meets some other need on the site!

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:30 pm
by Bruceswar
I am faster than him, and I do not use the script... If he did he would be taking 3 per second. :) Nothing to see here.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:32 pm
by LFAW
Bruceswar wrote:I am faster than him, and I do not use the script... If he did he would be taking 3 per second. :) Nothing to see here.


No you're not lol

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:12 pm
by Woodruff
KongKamel wrote:Seems to be a little fast yes, but than again: whats the point of being fast? it doesnt give you any advantages. O


Oh, but you are greatly mistaken...speed gives you tremendous advantages in freestyle games.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:36 pm
by Bruceswar
LFAW wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:I am faster than him, and I do not use the script... If he did he would be taking 3 per second. :) Nothing to see here.


No you're not lol



When was the last time you played vs me? ;) No really I can hit 2 a sec when I am on my game. I can deploy 4 in 1 sec, etc. I use no scripts.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:10 am
by ultrafit
pretty cool i think! im being noticed for my speed!!! been working on it. anyway, the dude who started this post, i think its dcswift, says he uses clickable maps but i was able to go from greatkingdom 6 all the way to lake 4, then i needed to change course, so if i had the move "automated" i dont see how i could have had it "programmed" what this jokester needs to do is stop complaining and LEARN how to use his clickmaps, then he wont be so bitchy! if not, then DO NOT join FREESTYLE games becuase you will run into people who know HOW TO use clickable maps. i know several who are alot faster than me, so i guess there cheaters as well. anyway, to set the record straight, I DO NOT USE AN AUTOMATED MACHINE THINGY, i use only CLICKABLE MAPS!! thats why my "r" 'b" 'e' and "alt" buttons are pretty much worn out!!

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:54 am
by captainwalrus
ultrafit wrote:pretty cool i think! im being noticed for my speed!!! been working on it. anyway, the dude who started this post, i think its dcswift, says he uses clickable maps but i was able to go from greatkingdom 6 all the way to lake 4, then i needed to change course, so if i had the move "automated" i dont see how i could have had it "programmed" what this jokester needs to do is stop complaining and LEARN how to use his clickmaps, then he wont be so bitchy! if not, then DO NOT join FREESTYLE games becuase you will run into people who know HOW TO use clickable maps. i know several who are alot faster than me, so i guess there cheaters as well. anyway, to set the record straight, I DO NOT USE AN AUTOMATED MACHINE THINGY, i use only CLICKABLE MAPS!! thats why my "r" 'b" 'e' and "alt" buttons are pretty much worn out!!


Unrealted to the accusation: What do you mean clickable maps? I am unfamilair with the term.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 1:32 pm
by devinsaway
how do you do clickable maps???

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 2:15 pm
by barterer2002
Clickable maps is one of the add ons that are available in the plug ins and add ons forum. You're going to need to use Firefox and greasemonkey to run it and you'll also want to disable BOB if you're using it for speed.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:37 pm
by neanderpaul14
devinsaway wrote:how do you do clickable maps???



Unless you have a decent computer don't even try clickie maps it will slow your machine to a crawl..........I think I saw smoke coming from mine when I tried to use them :P

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:38 pm
by ronsizzle
barterer2002 wrote:Clickable maps is one of the add ons that are available in the plug ins and add ons forum. You're going to need to use Firefox and greasemonkey to run it and you'll also want to disable BOB if you're using it for speed.



some people say to take off map rank too. i think you are just as fast with or without maprank on.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:39 pm
by ronsizzle
oh, as far as clickable maps go. you cant take 12 regions in 7 seconds...........

that is a machine. i have a pretty fast computer, and can only do 1 per second. maybe 3/4 of a second. but not 12 in 7.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:23 pm
by apb23
3/4 = 8/12...and Ultrafit did 7/12...that's only a difference of 1/12.
Don't think there will be enough evidence to catch Ultrafit...or if he even did it in the first place.

APB

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:25 pm
by Bruceswar
ronc8649 wrote:oh, as far as clickable maps go. you cant take 12 regions in 7 seconds...........

that is a machine. i have a pretty fast computer, and can only do 1 per second. maybe 3/4 of a second. but not 12 in 7.



The fastest players take 2 spots a second... So with that said... in 7 seconds you can take 14 spots easy.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:30 pm
by apb23
I agree with Brucewar...this guy probably won't be busted. I mean, there is no way to find out, but I highly doubt he is using a machine.

APB

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:30 pm
by LFAW
Bruce the fastest I have ever seen was Fanta doing 11 in 8 Seconds and he lives virtually outside the server on one of the fastest pcs.

When the game occured there was lag on cc aswell I think it is HIGHLY unlikely these are just Clickable Maps. I have to say I agree with Ronc (never thought i'd be saying that).

Show me a game number where people have gone that speed.

This is a developed script beyond Clickables.

LFAW

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:58 pm
by devinsaway
neanderpaul14 wrote:
devinsaway wrote:how do you do clickable maps???



Unless you have a decent computer don't even try clickie maps it will slow your machine to a crawl..........I think I saw smoke coming from mine when I tried to use them :P

o

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:31 pm
by apb23
I understand LFAW's point, but I still highly doubt there is enough evidence to bust this guy.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:53 pm
by Bruceswar
LFAW wrote:Bruce the fastest I have ever seen was Fanta doing 11 in 8 Seconds and he lives virtually outside the server on one of the fastest pcs.

When the game occured there was lag on cc aswell I think it is HIGHLY unlikely these are just Clickable Maps. I have to say I agree with Ronc (never thought i'd be saying that).

Show me a game number where people have gone that speed.

This is a developed script beyond Clickables.

LFAW



I live about 15 miles from the server. Fanta could take 14 in 7 secs... I seen it personally. Anyhow point is Ultrafit is also from Tx... Those speeds are not unheard of.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:09 am
by ronsizzle
Bruceswar wrote:
LFAW wrote:Bruce the fastest I have ever seen was Fanta doing 11 in 8 Seconds and he lives virtually outside the server on one of the fastest pcs.

When the game occured there was lag on cc aswell I think it is HIGHLY unlikely these are just Clickable Maps. I have to say I agree with Ronc (never thought i'd be saying that).

Show me a game number where people have gone that speed.

This is a developed script beyond Clickables.

LFAW



I live about 15 miles from the server. Fanta could take 14 in 7 secs... I seen it personally. Anyhow point is Ultrafit is also from Tx... Those speeds are not unheard of.



then please provide me with evidence of someone else at that speed bruce. if you are going to say someone can do something, and you have seen it, why not show us? this would help prove your point.

whoever wrote this report has to know that it is 8 seconds. not 7 seconds. that makes a huge difference! 12 IN 8? that doesnt seem so bad. but i cant go that fast. i dont think i have ever had 2 in 1 second.

Re: Ultrafit - Cheating Machine?

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:39 am
by Bruceswar
OK lets take a look....

Game 3664568
2009-01-15 23:28:43 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:43 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:44 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:44 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:44 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:45 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:45 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz
2009-01-15 23:28:45 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Kunz

There is 8 in 3....

Same game...

2009-01-12 17:23:31 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Rauschenberg
2009-01-12 17:23:31 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Rauschenberg
2009-01-12 17:23:31 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Rauschenberg
2009-01-12 17:23:31 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Rauschenberg
2009-01-12 17:23:32 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Rauschenberg
2009-01-12 17:23:32 - Bruceswar deployed 1 troops on Rauschenberg

4 drops in 1 sec...

Game 3532060
From another game...

2008-10-25 00:40:52 - fantasianasian assaulted Man Ray from Moore and conquered it from Bruceswar
2008-10-25 00:40:53 - Bruceswar assaulted Oldenberg from Ernst and conquered it from fantasianasian
2008-10-25 00:40:53 - fantasianasian assaulted Picasso from Man Ray and conquered it from Bruceswar
2008-10-25 00:40:54 - fantasianasian assaulted Dali from Picasso and conquered it from Bruceswar
2008-10-25 00:40:54 - Bruceswar assaulted Hockney from Oldenberg and conquered it from fantasianasian
2008-10-25 00:40:55 - fantasianasian assaulted Klee from Dali and conquered it from Bruceswar
2008-10-25 00:40:55 - Bruceswar assaulted Lichtenstein from Hockney and conquered it from fantasianasian
2008-10-25 00:40:56 - fantasianasian assaulted Magritte from Klee and conquered it from Bruceswar
2008-10-25 00:40:56 - fantasianasian assaulted Miro from Magritte and conquered it from Bruceswar

6 in 4 seconds.. which if doubled is 8 in 12 seconds...