Conquer Club

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2009 2:10 am**

Accused:
codeblue1018

The accused are suspected of:
Other: Accused of:

detracting from the gaming experience of all Conquer Club players that come across him and beat him or play better then him
being a troublemaker
throwing games
farming mew members who meet his criteria as a "multi" & joining games with them & abusing them in chat

Game number(s):
I looked at a handful of games he has on his 1st of 41 pages of games via the "game finder" selection to find these games that stood out. I'm sure there are many many more that can be added to the list, just reference the games he loses, that's where the brunt of his abuse rears its ugly head.

1. Game 4845048
2. Game 4844685
3. Game 4844003
4. Game 4839179
5. Game 4783530
6. Game 4783522
7. Game 4777081
8. Game 4776802
9. Game 4775573
10. Game 4775538
11. Game 4770315

Comments:
I have broken up the data in this accusation by spoilers to prevent too lengthy of a post. All data that is in each spoiler is a glimpse of that which transpired in that game.
This overall as I said before is a mere reflection of his overall behavior as this is 11 games I found him being abusive in the 30 or so games I searched.

Code does provide a good service when he catches the abusers of multiple accounts on this site, but to what cost. Many many games he has abused innocent players and has cost who knows how many to flee this site because of the interactions they had with him. Here are some examples:

On to the data:

show: Chat abuse and Throwed game accusation in Game 4845048

show: Chat abuse and Poor Sportsmanship accusation in Game 4844685

show: Chat abuse and Throwed game accusation in Game 4844003

show: Chat abuse and Poor Sportsmanship accusation in Game 4839179

show: Chat abuse and Poor Sportsmanship accusation in Game 4783530

show: Chat abuse and Throwed game accusation in Game 4783522

show: Chat abuse and Poor Sportsmanship accusation in Game 4777081

show: Chat abuse and Poor Sportsmanship accusation in Game 4776802

show: Chat abuse and Poor Sportsmanship accusation in Game 4775573

show: Chat abuse and Throwed game accusation in Game 4775538

show: Chat abuse and Throwed game accusation in Game 4770315

Code continually abuses other users in chat and while I understand Conquer Club takes its liberal stance and Foeing and Rating him have been done by the many, many users that he has rubbed wrong but
something else needs to be done.

In his case he is stretching the boundaries given to him and abusing them in a manner that is deterring from a good clean gaming experience.

I hope that some sort of resolvement can get done to clean up these acts and help others that
"get the lucky dice" against him to not get punished verbally for it.

Thanks,
King Sam

Note: In an aid to prevent possible flaming transpiring here I will not be posting in this claim again unless asked to by Lance or King A

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2009 3:03 pm**

Wow, Impressive KingSam; if you spent this much time in strategy with-in your games, why you would be sitting at #1!

First and foremost little fella, it is quite funny how you cite the 3 players, which I was wrong about yet fail to cite the several in which I was right (smokescreen #1)

Second, I was spoke to as well as reprimanded about my language and the way I treat people on this site, which frankly is tame from what I regretfully used to be; (smokescreen #2)

Thirdly, I was on a temporary ban for ratings abuse, which I haven't left a rating since sometime in March maybe?

Fourth; intentionally throwing games? LOL. I will never throw a game. I will however suicide right back on someone who suicided against me so if the third player wins, LOL oh well.

So, I like how you are a few days late for the party as usual. Tell us something that I haven't already been reprimanded for, which I have told KingA won't happen again and frankly it hasn't from what I was originally counseled about. Way to go though on your effort. The statements I have are well, two-fold:

first; way to come to the party and speak of incidents that were already dealt with.

second; are you friends with any of the players, which I caught cheating?

Do yourself a favor, stay away from further comments as you kindly stated you would do unless questions from the mods arise.

MODS; investigate please. Apparently KingSam condones cheating on this site, I however, DON'T! I'd rather error on the side of caution as opposed to letting something suspicious squeak by.

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2009 3:21 pm**

codeblue1018 wrote:Wow, Impressive KingSam; if you spent this much time in strategy with-in your games, why you would be sitting at #1!

First and foremost little fella...

I'm impressed that you think flaming your accuser, is the best way to begin a rebuttal.

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2009 3:31 pm**

Everything from one of the spoilers:
Game 4775573 Chat wrote:2009-04-28 14:15:02 - codeblue1018: another win on dice
2009-04-28 14:15:34 - codeblue1018: you didnt lose a single roll there as well
2009-04-28 14:15:36 - codeblue1018: amazing
2009-04-28 14:15:44 - codeblue1018: man if i had ur luck,,id be #1

I dont at all agree with how code plays or chats but are you really suggesting that this is some kind of abuse? because if it is, youre gonna have to bust alot of people, including myself.

I honestly read every one. I didnt see one swear, except from the other players, and usually there were a lot there.

Also, as far as thrown games, they do seem to be individually motivated, and certainly decided upon because of moves within a game. In some of those games, the person he suggested he was throwing it to, didnt even win. I dont think you can even suggest that someone cant throw everything at one person if they attack you too much. Again, youd have to bust alot of people, including myself.

I once again agree that code is a negative player, and definitely ruins some games, but I think its best to focus on actual forms of abuse rather than quoting every word spoken in chat and suggesting its evidence. I honestly cant even believe the one I quoted was thrown in there. Hell, that's positive for some players.

This does seem a bit biased I have to say.

I did find this gem where code gets tooled on though.. and it does seem the thrown game was against him if anything. He deserves every word, and how he expects to win with chat like this is beyond me, but at the same time, blue hands the game to green here, and I dont think many would have reserved a comment on that. Its fun watching the pwnage I must admit though

2009-04-27 19:30:41 - codeblue1018: BLUE
2009-04-27 19:30:47 - codeblue1018: foed,,all one stars
2009-04-27 19:30:52 - codeblue1018: so so so [pathetic
2009-04-27 19:31:11 - KraphtOne: lol
2009-04-27 19:31:14 - KraphtOne: back at ya
2009-04-27 19:32:06 - codeblue1018: back at me??
2009-04-27 19:32:41 - KraphtOne: gg green happy to help
2009-04-27 19:32:42 - KraphtOne: f*** this guy
2009-04-27 19:33:20 - codeblue1018: green
2009-04-27 19:33:23 - codeblue1018: i will let you win
2009-04-27 19:33:32 - codeblue1018: im in realm and great kingdom
2009-04-27 19:33:35 - KraphtOne: let sh**, no way he'll lose now ((my favorite))

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2009 4:26 pm**

Codeblue did this in the past to me and he recieved a 24 hour band (I think) because of it. I do not think he deserves further punishment unless it has gotten increasingly worse...if the Mods were to do anything I would give Codeblue a final warning and say the most he could write about dice was one post (limited 2 great dice or bad dice)...this is just a suggestion and I know it is a bit confusing...

APB

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2009 11:44 pm**

codeblue's games are an absolute riot. Incredibly funny to read.

In fact, I must play him in a 1 on 1 some time just to experience the rage...

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 7:05 pm**

aright I'm breaking my statement about not commenting cause I believe this needs to be seen.

codeblue1018 wrote:First and foremost little fella, it is quite funny how you cite the 3 players, which I was wrong about yet fail to cite the several in which I was right (smokescreen #1)

There are others but for space and time reading those were the 3 I sited. And before I sited those 3 I gave credit were credit was due and commended code for his job well done he has done on busting more then a fair share of players that choose to abuse the rules.

king sam wrote:Code does provide a good service when he catches the abusers of multiple accounts on this site, but to what cost. Many many games he has abused innocent players and has cost who knows how many to flee this site because of the interactions they had with him.

My point of the claim with this was that you (code) specifically hunt for players who are new to the site (see reference in game chat in 1st post) and try to convince yourself that they are not multis. If you determine that they could be because the dice favor them or that they are at a more of a strategical advantage in that game then you go on to banter, flame & demoralize them for being a cheater. Sometimes you win the gamble, sometimes you dont.

If Im new to the site and I have had a good streak going and I become a blip on your "multi" radar and you decide to join a game with me that I happen to be beating you at why do I deserve the treatment you give? That kind of game chat from an experienced player should be unacceptable.

codeblue1018 wrote:Second, I was spoke to as well as reprimanded about my language and the way I treat people on this site, which frankly is tame from what I regretfully used to be; (smokescreen #2)

I wasn't aware of this, nor would or should be. But even with that consideration you still have to look at the dates from all the game chats I referred to in the original post. Unless you got talked to about this within the last 2 weeks then you obviously didn't take head to the Warning as the dates range from April 27 to May 8th. And I'm sure further digging would show even more recent abuse.

codeblue1018 wrote:Thirdly, I was on a temporary ban for ratings abuse, which I haven't left a rating since sometime in March maybe?

I said nothing about ratings.

codeblue1018 wrote:Fourth; intentionally throwing games? LOL. I will never throw a game. I will however suicide right back on someone who suicided against me so if the third player wins, LOL oh well.

Look I put accusation when I sited the "throwing of games" not that it was proven. It would take analyzation of the game log to prove that, but however in all the games that I said that you had the "throwing the game plausibility" you had stated in the game chat that you were going to let another player win out of frustration of moves made by someone. If your actions in those games did not match your threats in chat then you have nothing to worry about, if they did, well then you were in violation of the rules.

codeblue1018 wrote:are you friends with any of the players, which I caught cheating?
MODS; investigate please. Apparently KingSam condones cheating on this site, I however, DON'T! I'd rather error on the side of caution as opposed to letting something suspicious squeak by.

Lastly I was not friends with anyone that you caught, and thank you for your service, I too contrary to your belief do not believe in the malicious intent of cheating that goes on in this site and am actively working alongside of you to help clean it up. I don't believe in the stance and methods you take and think you may be doing more harm then help and wrote this claim to get that looked at. I don't want or intend for actions taken against you to stop you from contributing to the site, just help others maintain a good time on here.

Regards,
King Sam

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 12:43 pm**

foed, all 1 stars!

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 1:55 pm**

Just plain 'foed' will do for me, I don't want to play him, ever.

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 1:59 pm**

by the way codeblueyy i think its "errr" on the side of caution. just dont get too big for your boots

Posted: **Wed May 13, 2009 8:13 pm**

yeah i've had the pleasure of this douche bag

4721783

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 3:05 am**

I concur, with Sam.

Here's another game example that was forwarded by a friend of mine.

Game 4766306

Game chat (to save you the time):

show: Just poor sportsmanship.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 4:53 am**

King_Herpes wrote:foed, all 1 stars!

Exactly. Someone screws up in life and you say "foed, all 1 stars!" It is like a mantra to me now. You can learn so much from this site...

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 6:41 am**

2009-04-27 09:40:23 - BoganGod: hi and gl mate
2009-04-27 09:40:23 - codeblue1018: absolutely ridiculous dice
2009-04-27 09:44:40 - BoganGod: ditto
2009-04-27 09:46:26 - codeblue1018: ditto?? lol
2009-04-27 09:46:35 - codeblue1018: umm, i got smoked my man
2009-04-27 09:49:37 - BoganGod: so did I look through game log, and amount of territorries held pretty evenly shocking dice on both sides
2009-04-27 09:54:49 - codeblue1018: are you seriopus???????????????????????????????????
2009-04-27 09:54:58 - codeblue1018: you won this game on dice from the very first round
2009-04-27 09:55:01 - codeblue1018: absolutely absurd
2009-04-27 09:55:04 - codeblue1018: such a joke
2009-04-27 09:57:24 - codeblue1018: I cant believe what I am witnessing
2009-04-27 09:58:20 - codeblue1018: dude
2009-04-27 09:58:35 - codeblue1018: 2 things,,,you were totally outplayed,,,and second,,you havent lost a roll this entire game
2009-04-27 09:58:41 - codeblue1018: feel good about ur win
2009-04-27 09:58:46 - codeblue1018: its deserving,,let me tell ya
2009-04-27 09:59:30 - codeblue1018: thats what I thought,,,silenece
2009-04-27 09:59:37 - codeblue1018: as long as you know why
2009-04-27 09:59:51 - codeblue1018: how about a 3 card set now for yu
2009-04-27 10:03:26 - BoganGod: listen you sook, a you haven't out played me, we have both had shit dice, and b you are coming across as a sore loser before you have even lost. what is with the attitude. you win some you lose some
2009-04-27 10:03:35 - BoganGod: don't play if your going to cry, lol
2009-04-27 10:03:58 - codeblue1018: lol
2009-04-27 10:04:46 - codeblue1018: little fella,,,,i have no problem losing to a good player...you arent good,,period...you won on dice,,,stockpiled your armies as you didnt need to attack in those areas..obviously,,,especially with the amoutn of men you had when you took my castle...easy
2009-04-27 10:05:14 - codeblue1018: oh my gosh
2009-04-27 10:05:24 - codeblue1018: the 3v1 2v1 you are winning left and right,,,
2009-04-27 10:05:41 - codeblue1018: i had 35 armies attacking my area that you took last round,,,35v13,, i have 10 left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-04-27 10:06:13 - codeblue1018: 6v1,,, I LOSE!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-04-27 10:06:26 - BoganGod: I'm not good I'm pretty highly ranked on this map, and look at our comparitive ranks, but cry a river kiddo, you have made me laugh the hardest, since flamewars was closed, well done kid
2009-04-27 10:06:34 - codeblue1018: this is what happens...you win on dice,,,,whe the other player loses every single round
2009-04-27 10:06:39 - codeblue1018: not hard to figure out
2009-04-27 10:06:49 - codeblue1018: bro,,,you are a low ranekd major
2009-04-27 10:06:54 - codeblue1018: see, this thing is
2009-04-27 10:07:25 - codeblue1018: you playe to maintaion your rank...i have my rank as i choose to...ive been to brig 5 times,,,,,top 25 raqnk....you dont kno what good is,,obviously
2009-04-27 10:08:07 - codeblue1018: keep practicing tho...winn like you do,,,you will gain mad respect
2009-04-27 10:08:14 - codeblue1018: with yopur playing ability
2009-04-27 10:08:41 - codeblue1018: no flame at all,,,strictly facts
2009-04-27 10:08:55 - codeblue1018: if you beat me fair and square,,id say good game....you didnt2009-04-27 10:09:05 - codeblue1018: you won as you failed to lose a single roll of the dice
2009-04-27 10:09:27 - codeblue1018: i saw exactly what you saw,,,if you think it was fair,,then,,,i have lots of land to sell ya little man
2009-04-27 10:10:14 - BoganGod: I lot shitloads of rolls you sore losing one eyed pot smoking joke. But keep on crying a river
2009-04-27 10:10:18 - codeblue1018: if it wasnt for the 35-13 loss,,,your game is over!!
2009-04-27 10:10:24 - codeblue1018: you know it,,i know it
2009-04-27 10:11:00 - codeblue1018: i know....cocky players like low ranked majors continually get the attitude once they lock a win outside of skill
2009-04-27 10:11:04 - codeblue1018: impressive tho
2009-04-27 10:12:28 - codeblue1018: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5v5,,you still win it
2009-04-27 10:12:50 - codeblue1018: 17v6,,, i have 7 left,,,LOL!
2009-04-27 10:13:04 - BoganGod: keep on smoking crack, big loses happen, I should have finished you then, except for bad dice. But you don't see me crying like a toddler
2009-04-27 10:13:14 - codeblue1018: 6v1,,,i lost all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-04-27 10:13:29 - codeblue1018: wow,,,are you ever good
2009-04-27 10:13:34 - codeblue1018: im in awww...
2009-04-27 10:13:52 - codeblue1018: Score: 2218 Games: 3696 completed, 1234 (33%) won
2009-04-27 10:14:02 - codeblue1018: your stats dont lie fortunately little fella
2009-04-27 10:14:05 - codeblue1018: bad as it shows
2009-04-27 10:14:43 - codeblue1018: 16v8,,you have 11 left
2009-04-27 10:14:45 - codeblue1018: i know
2009-04-27 10:14:48 - codeblue1018: your dice are bad
2009-04-27 10:15:04 - BoganGod: and yours crybaby? rofl
2009-04-27 10:15:16 - codeblue1018: yea,,,58% is bad
2009-04-27 10:15:20 - codeblue1018: yea i know
2009-04-27 10:15:27 - codeblue1018: 22 rank,,yea thats bad
2009-04-27 10:15:32 - codeblue1018: brig 5 times,
2009-04-27 10:15:36 - codeblue1018: yea true,,i do suck, lol
2009-04-27 10:16:51 - codeblue1018: almost a 1000 more wins with almost the same games played,,,true,,,,im really bad

I have to say... this is absolutely ridiculous. Not complaining about cheating or anything but just for purposes of interactivity. I've highlighted what I seem to see in alot of codeblue's games.

I'd like to establish some very basic... no, the most basic premis for this game. That is that no attack is certain. Everytime you click "assault" you are engaging your troops in a battle hoping to attain land or damage your enemy. Similarly, you (in clicking "assault") acknowledge that you are putting said men at a calculated risk. Attacking goes 2 ways.

Frankly... it's none of your business what kind of rolls your opponent gets and not their fault. You cannot say: "You won because of dice!" as if it is a bad trait because if you beat them, you would have similarly "won because of dice." There's a very clear line between pointing out to someone when they got lucky and laughing about it (or crying). But often, even they will admit it: "Yeah, I got lucky there." etc...

I notice that barely happens in your games because you point it out with an accusation or a demeaning manner. If you attack neutrals or your opponent, they aren't doing anything. How can they be blamed for your dice? Similarly, when they attack you, they are taking the same calculated risks you are. The outcomes of those risks have nothing to do with a player's skill. If you win an attack it's because the dice favored the assault, if you lose an attack, it's because the dice favored the defender in that battle.

Codeblue seems to have a very distinct way of making people not care at all about a lucky round. The longer the game goes you'll have good and bad attacks but don't hold your opponent personally responsable for the kind of losses you suffer during your calculated risk.

After a certain point in Codeblue's games of asserting that his opponent is not beating him with skill (often before skill is ever even mentioned in a game) codeblue proceeds to play the rank and win rate card.

Well Mr. Blue... my 74% win rate blows your 58% win rate out of the water like your 58% win rate blew his 33% win rate out of the water. All this shows... believe it or not is that 58% of the time, dice favor your assaults over an opponent's defense and while I've not looked at all your games, I'd be willing to wager you're quiet in quite a few of those. My win rate will change as my assaults lose more and more.

All in all... please understand that it's not your opponent's fault that your calculated risk fails. Your opponent can only be held accountable for what they do with their troops on their round. Don't knock their success... do the best you can do with your troops on your round.

Jasmine.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 9:34 am**

Rabid bunnies wrote:
2009-04-27 09:40:23 - BoganGod: hi and gl mate
2009-04-27 09:40:23 - codeblue1018: absolutely ridiculous dice
2009-04-27 09:44:40 - BoganGod: ditto
2009-04-27 09:46:26 - codeblue1018: ditto?? lol
2009-04-27 09:46:35 - codeblue1018: umm, i got smoked my man
2009-04-27 09:49:37 - BoganGod: so did I look through game log, and amount of territorries held pretty evenly shocking dice on both sides
2009-04-27 09:54:49 - codeblue1018: are you seriopus???????????????????????????????????
2009-04-27 09:54:58 - codeblue1018: you won this game on dice from the very first round
2009-04-27 09:55:01 - codeblue1018: absolutely absurd
2009-04-27 09:55:04 - codeblue1018: such a joke
2009-04-27 09:57:24 - codeblue1018: I cant believe what I am witnessing
2009-04-27 09:58:20 - codeblue1018: dude
2009-04-27 09:58:35 - codeblue1018: 2 things,,,you were totally outplayed,,,and second,,you havent lost a roll this entire game
2009-04-27 09:58:41 - codeblue1018: feel good about ur win
2009-04-27 09:58:46 - codeblue1018: its deserving,,let me tell ya
2009-04-27 09:59:30 - codeblue1018: thats what I thought,,,silenece
2009-04-27 09:59:37 - codeblue1018: as long as you know why
2009-04-27 09:59:51 - codeblue1018: how about a 3 card set now for yu
2009-04-27 10:03:26 - BoganGod: listen you sook, a you haven't out played me, we have both had shit dice, and b you are coming across as a sore loser before you have even lost. what is with the attitude. you win some you lose some
2009-04-27 10:03:35 - BoganGod: don't play if your going to cry, lol
2009-04-27 10:03:58 - codeblue1018: lol
2009-04-27 10:04:46 - codeblue1018: little fella,,,,i have no problem losing to a good player...you arent good,,period...you won on dice,,,stockpiled your armies as you didnt need to attack in those areas..obviously,,,especially with the amoutn of men you had when you took my castle...easy
2009-04-27 10:05:14 - codeblue1018: oh my gosh
2009-04-27 10:05:24 - codeblue1018: the 3v1 2v1 you are winning left and right,,,
2009-04-27 10:05:41 - codeblue1018: i had 35 armies attacking my area that you took last round,,,35v13,, i have 10 left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-04-27 10:06:13 - codeblue1018: 6v1,,, I LOSE!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-04-27 10:06:26 - BoganGod: I'm not good I'm pretty highly ranked on this map, and look at our comparitive ranks, but cry a river kiddo, you have made me laugh the hardest, since flamewars was closed, well done kid
2009-04-27 10:06:34 - codeblue1018: this is what happens...you win on dice,,,,whe the other player loses every single round
2009-04-27 10:06:39 - codeblue1018: not hard to figure out
2009-04-27 10:06:49 - codeblue1018: bro,,,you are a low ranekd major
2009-04-27 10:06:54 - codeblue1018: see, this thing is
2009-04-27 10:07:25 - codeblue1018: you playe to maintaion your rank...i have my rank as i choose to...ive been to brig 5 times,,,,,top 25 raqnk....you dont kno what good is,,obviously
2009-04-27 10:08:07 - codeblue1018: keep practicing tho...winn like you do,,,you will gain mad respect
2009-04-27 10:08:14 - codeblue1018: with yopur playing ability
2009-04-27 10:08:41 - codeblue1018: no flame at all,,,strictly facts
2009-04-27 10:08:55 - codeblue1018: if you beat me fair and square,,id say good game....you didnt2009-04-27 10:09:05 - codeblue1018: you won as you failed to lose a single roll of the dice
2009-04-27 10:09:27 - codeblue1018: i saw exactly what you saw,,,if you think it was fair,,then,,,i have lots of land to sell ya little man
2009-04-27 10:10:14 - BoganGod: I lot shitloads of rolls you sore losing one eyed pot smoking joke. But keep on crying a river
2009-04-27 10:10:18 - codeblue1018: if it wasnt for the 35-13 loss,,,your game is over!!
2009-04-27 10:10:24 - codeblue1018: you know it,,i know it
2009-04-27 10:11:00 - codeblue1018: i know....cocky players like low ranked majors continually get the attitude once they lock a win outside of skill
2009-04-27 10:11:04 - codeblue1018: impressive tho
2009-04-27 10:12:28 - codeblue1018: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5v5,,you still win it
2009-04-27 10:12:50 - codeblue1018: 17v6,,, i have 7 left,,,LOL!
2009-04-27 10:13:04 - BoganGod: keep on smoking crack, big loses happen, I should have finished you then, except for bad dice. But you don't see me crying like a toddler
2009-04-27 10:13:14 - codeblue1018: 6v1,,,i lost all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-04-27 10:13:29 - codeblue1018: wow,,,are you ever good
2009-04-27 10:13:34 - codeblue1018: im in awww...
2009-04-27 10:13:52 - codeblue1018: Score: 2218 Games: 3696 completed, 1234 (33%) won
2009-04-27 10:14:02 - codeblue1018: your stats dont lie fortunately little fella
2009-04-27 10:14:05 - codeblue1018: bad as it shows
2009-04-27 10:14:43 - codeblue1018: 16v8,,you have 11 left
2009-04-27 10:14:45 - codeblue1018: i know
2009-04-27 10:14:48 - codeblue1018: your dice are bad
2009-04-27 10:15:04 - BoganGod: and yours crybaby? rofl
2009-04-27 10:15:16 - codeblue1018: yea,,,58% is bad
2009-04-27 10:15:20 - codeblue1018: yea i know
2009-04-27 10:15:27 - codeblue1018: 22 rank,,yea thats bad
2009-04-27 10:15:32 - codeblue1018: brig 5 times,
2009-04-27 10:15:36 - codeblue1018: yea true,,i do suck, lol
2009-04-27 10:16:51 - codeblue1018: almost a 1000 more wins with almost the same games played,,,true,,,,im really bad

I have to say... this is absolutely ridiculous. Not complaining about cheating or anything but just for purposes of interactivity. I've highlighted what I seem to see in alot of codeblue's games.

I'd like to establish some very basic... no, the most basic premis for this game. That is that no attack is certain. Everytime you click "assault" you are engaging your troops in a battle hoping to attain land or damage your enemy. Similarly, you (in clicking "assault") acknowledge that you are putting said men at a calculated risk. Attacking goes 2 ways.

Frankly... it's none of your business what kind of rolls your opponent gets and not their fault. You cannot say: "You won because of dice!" as if it is a bad trait because if you beat them, you would have similarly "won because of dice." There's a very clear line between pointing out to someone when they got lucky and laughing about it (or crying). But often, even they will admit it: "Yeah, I got lucky there." etc...

I notice that barely happens in your games because you point it out with an accusation or a demeaning manner. If you attack neutrals or your opponent, they aren't doing anything. How can they be blamed for your dice? Similarly, when they attack you, they are taking the same calculated risks you are. The outcomes of those risks have nothing to do with a player's skill. If you win an attack it's because the dice favored the assault, if you lose an attack, it's because the dice favored the defender in that battle.

Codeblue seems to have a very distinct way of making people not care at all about a lucky round. The longer the game goes you'll have good and bad attacks but don't hold your opponent personally responsable for the kind of losses you suffer during your calculated risk.

After a certain point in Codeblue's games of asserting that his opponent is not beating him with skill (often before skill is ever even mentioned in a game) codeblue proceeds to play the rank and win rate card.

Well Mr. Blue... my 74% win rate blows your 58% win rate out of the water like your 58% win rate blew his 33% win rate out of the water. All this shows... believe it or not is that 58% of the time, dice favor your assaults over an opponent's defense and while I've not looked at all your games, I'd be willing to wager you're quiet in quite a few of those. My win rate will change as my assaults lose more and more.

All in all... please understand that it's not your opponent's fault that your calculated risk fails. Your opponent can only be held accountable for what they do with their troops on their round. Don't knock their success... do the best you can do with your troops on your round.

Jasmine.

Well this is funny on many levels. First, Jasmine's playing record is almost designed to cake codeblue blow up. "You've played 24 fucking games...you want to tell me about fucking strategy, noob? I've been to brig 25,000 times. I choose my rank you're nothing you ********* You're so bad I want to kill myself."

Secondly, Jasmine missed the implicit comic genuis within. Codeblue is a master of wit - he should be celebrated here, enthroned here or possibly even entombed here. Many a morning I have a coffee with a bit of codeblue before getting ready for the day. He is the pick me up I need, my starbucks with added profanity.

Thirdly, his opponent obviously found the whole thing hilarious. He played up to it, he encouraged the genius... he was the straight man feeding the lines.

Fourthly, any person on this site can instantly stop reading codeblue by simply pressing that foe button. Any concerned parent, any straight-laced moralist, any conservative christian can instantly stop reading codeblue and stop their children from doing so too.

But that's never enough, is it? Oh no, one must also stop other people, who have nothing to do with you whatsoever, from reading it too. Worry about your own bloody kids...which seems to be the only coherent argument as to why the foe button doesn't solve this problem.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 9:49 am**

2009-04-27 10:12:50 - codeblue1018: 17v6,,, i have 7 left,,,LOL!

Everyone knows, losing 10 to kill 6 is totally unheard of. I think there might be a problem with the dice file.

edit- it might have only been 9 lost, as he would have to leave 1 behind.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 1:16 pm**

Mr Changsha wrote:Fourthly, any person on this site can instantly stop reading codeblue by simply pressing that foe button. Any concerned parent, any straight-laced moralist, any conservative christian can instantly stop reading codeblue and stop their children from doing so too.

But that's never enough, is it? Oh no, one must also stop other people, who have nothing to do with you whatsoever, from reading it too. Worry about your own bloody kids...which seems to be the only coherent argument as to why the foe button doesn't solve this problem.

I must disagree here. If someone is being consistently and ridiculously abusive, action outside of "just foe the person" needs to be taken. As an example...the rationale that Jasmine foe'ing someone solves the problem ignores the fact that I am still left open to that person's abuse in a future game. I recognize that people just blow up from time to time and that action shouldn't be taken in those "done rarely" instances...but when it's a regular pattern of behavior, more needs to be done about it.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 1:48 pm**

Woodruff wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:Fourthly, any person on this site can instantly stop reading codeblue by simply pressing that foe button. Any concerned parent, any straight-laced moralist, any conservative christian can instantly stop reading codeblue and stop their children from doing so too.

But that's never enough, is it? Oh no, one must also stop other people, who have nothing to do with you whatsoever, from reading it too. Worry about your own bloody kids...which seems to be the only coherent argument as to why the foe button doesn't solve this problem.

I must disagree here. If someone is being consistently and ridiculously abusive, action outside of "just foe the person" needs to be taken. As an example...the rationale that Jasmine foe'ing someone solves the problem ignores the fact that I am still left open to that person's abuse in a future game. I recognize that people just blow up from time to time and that action shouldn't be taken in those "done rarely" instances...but when it's a regular pattern of behavior, more needs to be done about it.

I agree!

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 1:50 pm**

codeblue1018 wrote:
I must disagree here. If someone is being consistently and ridiculously abusive, action outside of "just foe the person" needs to be taken. As an example...the rationale that Jasmine foe'ing someone solves the problem ignores the fact that I am still left open to that person's abuse in a future game. I recognize that people just blow up from time to time and that action shouldn't be taken in those "done rarely" instances...but when it's a regular pattern of behavior, more needs to be done about it.

I agree![/quote]

So you agree that you should be banned? Because you continue to harass near everyone you play with, using "dice" and "luck" as an excuse.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 2:02 pm**

Lets try and put all this into perspective:

#1 I've been dealt with about my attitude here by KingA and Twill. From what they advised me, I have stopped; end of story. See KingSam apparently didn't do his research therefore, another post from the past has resurfaced. From the new cases KingSam noted, not one rule has been broken.
#2 No rules have been broken in any case listed!
#3 People join my games the majority of the time and not once have I waited for a game to fill, weird eh?
#4 It is very simple to point fingers at someone who is already a target; I am not worried in the least what happens. I can make post on players using the language that I was reprimanded for, which I NEVER use from that time. In fact, KingSam's clan mate uses far worse language than most players yet for some reason, he doesn't post about them or any player, again weird!
#5 I've received several one stars from players when at no time was a single conversation initiated, weird eh? No, not at all, they see a 2.8 rating and rate because of just that.
#6 If KingA or members of this site ban me for not breaking any rules, have at it. Plenty of other people do just the same; something to think about.

I, unlike KingSam will not post again as from this point forward, I could careless.

PERSONS NAME IS BLACKED OUT - NO NEED TO TELL (KINGSAM KNOWS) PLENTY MORE ALSO!
(Note the first sentence left in this game)

2009-05-14 09:34:45 - ********: lucky ass bitch
2009-05-14 09:35:32 - codeblue1018: lucky ass bitch?
2009-05-14 09:35:34 - codeblue1018: lol
2009-05-14 09:35:51 - codeblue1018: you played badly,,,too aggressive and lost,,,lsot all your men in the beginning
2009-05-14 09:35:56 - ********: i saw you roll man
2009-05-14 09:36:07 - ********: did i f*ck play badly
2009-05-14 09:36:16 - ********: you had dice i had shit
2009-05-14 09:36:48 - codeblue1018: i had dice?
2009-05-14 09:36:49 - codeblue1018: lol
2009-05-14 09:36:54 - codeblue1018: keep practicing little fella
2009-05-14 09:37:23 - codeblue1018: its over,,i have 53 armies coming right down next roun
2009-05-14 09:37:28 - ********: little fella, lol, you have no idea
2009-05-14 09:37:38 - codeblue1018: yea, i know,,,
2009-05-14 09:37:55 - ********: well you mom, didnt think i was little
2009-05-14 09:38:15 - codeblue1018: wow,,clever
2009-05-14 09:38:27 - codeblue1018: i will take pride in winning this game
2009-05-14 09:38:29 - codeblue1018: so so so easy
2009-05-14 09:38:31 - ********: no m8, she really isnt
2009-05-14 09:39:22 -********: lol, pride, look at your ratings, no dont even have any understanding of pride
2009-05-14 09:39:36 - codeblue1018: another internet tough guy behind a computer screen
2009-05-14 09:40:04 - codeblue1018: take your pocket protector and glasses off before you go in public sweetheart
2009-05-14 09:40:05 - codeblue1018: LOL
2009-05-14 09:40:19 - codeblue1018: my ratings?
2009-05-14 09:40:27 - codeblue1018: 2009-05-14 09:34:45 - ********: lucky ass bitch
2009-05-14 09:40:35 - codeblue1018: 1st comment of the game..
2009-05-14 09:40:43 - codeblue1018: yea ,,,i have no clue about pride
2009-05-14 09:42:51 - ********: 2009-05-14 08:40:04 - codeblue1018: take your pocket protector and glasses off before you go in public sweetheart
2009-05-14 09:42:56 - ********: wot???
A game that I wasnt even a part of swearing at player, alanmolnar
(2009-05-14 09:43:23 - codeblue1018: 2009-05-14 06:59:23 - ********: fuckyou and your fucking rigged dice, wot bullshit 2009-05-14 06:59:59 -********: you cunt f*ck off 2009-05-14 07:00:09 - ********: outta here 2009-05-14 07:01:44 - alanmolnar: what is your problem)2009-05-14 07:01:4
2009-05-14 09:43:28 - codeblue1018: another 1 of ur games
2009-05-14 09:43:38 - codeblue1018: yea,,,pride,,,,priceless!
2009-05-14 09:44:12 - codeblue1018: keep talking littel fella,....true colors continuallt come out
2009-05-14 09:44:16 - codeblue1018: i love it
2009-05-14 09:49:53 - ********: yey you do love it, just been through a few of your games and got the same result, time after time, you actually enjoy having people complain and moan about you, you are a sad person, who was prolly never loved as a child, didnt have any1 to look up to,
2009-05-14 09:51:14 - ********: no role models or nothing, i pitty some1 like you, no friends or family that love you, more than likely they fking hate you!!! i hope you have a nice life, i am not giving you the satisfaction anymore, farewell friend!!!

I ONLY HIGHLIGHTED THIS PLAYER AS IT SO HAPPENS TO BE A CLAN MATE OF KINGSAM!

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 2:34 pm**

Do you think belittling people by calling them little fella helps?

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 3:12 pm**

codeblue1018 wrote:Lets try and put all this into perspective:
#1 I've been dealt with about my attitude here by KingA and Twill. From what they advised me, I have stopped; end of story. See KingSam apparently didn't do his research therefore, another post from the past has resurfaced. From the new cases KingSam noted, not one rule has been broken.
#2 No rules have been broken in any case listed!
#3 People join my games the majority of the time and not once have I waited for a game to fill, weird eh?
#4 It is very simple to point fingers at someone who is already a target; I am not worried in the least what happens. I can make post on players using the language that I was reprimanded for, which I NEVER use from that time. In fact, KingSam's clan mate uses far worse language than most players yet for some reason, he doesn't post about them or any player, again weird!
#5 I've received several one stars from players when at no time was a single conversation initiated, weird eh? No, not at all, they see a 2.8 rating and rate because of just that.
#6 If KingA or members of this site ban me for not breaking any rules, have at it. Plenty of other people do just the same; something to think about.
I, unlike KingSam will not post again as from this point forward, I could careless.
(game chat)
I ONLY HIGHLIGHTED THIS PLAYER AS IT SO HAPPENS TO BE A CLAN MATE OF KINGSAM!

LOL. Sorry Im not biting at your attempt to get in a Flame battle code, but I will step in and set the story straight.

#1
You being dealt with by Twill & King A was an off the record ordeal, not public in the forums so there is no reason why anyone but you and the mods would be aware of your Warning for your abusive behavior. And as I stated in my last rebuttal

king sam wrote:Unless you got talked to about this within the last 2 weeks then you obviously didn't take head to the Warning as the dates range from April 27 to May 8th

Also I can quote very similar behavior on your part in Game 4884359. ( Notice the date of this claim is May 10, 2009. Your gamechat is dated May 14, 2009. )

#2
Rules that have possibly been broken recently are exactly as I stated.

Manipulating the game chat to cause discontent and ruin the enjoyment for vindication of losing
Deliberately joining games to cause this discontent and accuse innocent players of cheating cause you lose
Being a nuisance to a vast majority of players you come in contact with
Possibly deliberately throwing games out of frustration from other players gameplay

All violations are listed in the first post with sound judgment to back them. All offenses have gone above the standard "Foe & Rate Accordingly" punishment.

#3
I never questioned the ability / inability to conduct games therefore have no comment about people joining your games

#4
Im pointing a finger at you cause the abuse you continue to exhibit to the majority of players that beat you in a game needs to stop. you deserve the finger in your direction

#5
I never commented on you unjustly getting a bad rating cause of your already poor rating. There is a system that is designed to help players that dont follow the ratings guidelines, which happens to be a system that you are all to familiar with. Its called submitting a claim in the C&A forum to get it resolved. I suggest you do this if you feel you have been misjudged by players who do not rate by the guidelines.

#6
The excuse that someone else is doing it to is not one I would have used. And especially by quoting a clan mate of mine. I have no control over anyone but my own actions, and therefore I cant comment on it beyond that. Rest assured as he is in my clan that he will be talked to about his behavior by our leader, but trying to bring another to shine the light on to try to fade off in the background doesn't change or lessen your violations of conduct.

In short you have caused a lot of discontent in other innocence players lives by not winning every game.
The abuse you give them in the game chat old & as I just showed new needs to stop. Whatever course of action that is decided upon to change it I dont care as long as it is changed.

Regards,
King Sam

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2009 4:53 pm**

Temporary lock until we can sort this thread out.

Posted: **Fri May 22, 2009 2:00 am**

The sum of this report just goes back to codeblue1018's game chat abuse.

Since he has been warned before, he is again, on a short vacation. Even though he was not cussing, based from those game chats that have been posted here, he was equally as being abusive to those people. I don't know what his reasons are for being like that but he is now on a short forum vacation and hopefully, think and evaluate this type of behavior.

We know trash talking is a part of the competitive game, but unfortunately antics like this are already above and beyond what is usually acceptable.

Posted: **Fri May 22, 2009 2:54 am**

So he gets a forum vacation for his ingame chat abuse? Explain that one.

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