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Wiivja [noted]

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:44 pm
by Green88
Accused:

wiivja




The accused are suspected of:

Abuse of site
Other: Signs up for hundreds of games and misses turns or simply deploys armies on the first region that comes up and lets the hour time out. He/she claims that all turns are played, but turns are indeed missed, and when they are played they are not played in the spirit of the game (ie. to actually try to win). Not really the point of the site now, is it?



Game number(s):

Hundreds and hundreds.



Comments:

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:56 pm
by Wiivja
I do all my turns, except for the few ones I missed when I was sick.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:58 pm
by Green88
Deploying armies and letting the hour time out is not in the spirit of the game and is not really 'taking a turn'. It's just hitting a button.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:00 pm
by Wiivja
When a game is clearly lost of course I just place my armies, alot of players does that.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:04 pm
by Green88
You often do this right from the start of the game, as in the games with me. Game 4726988. You didn't attack in round 1. The game was lost in round 1? No, you just had to get to your other 500 games so you didn't have any time to spend on this one.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:09 pm
by Woodruff
Green88 wrote:You often do this right from the start of the game, as in the games with me. Game 4726988. You didn't attack in round 1. The game was lost in round 1? No, you just had to get to your other 500 games so you didn't have any time to spend on this one.


There's a vast difference between "500" and "189" (the current number of Wiivja's games). Overstating the situation only gives the impression that you're out to make someone look bad when they wouldn't otherwise.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:17 pm
by Wiivja
I really do not understand you Green88. Are you someone I know in the real life?

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:21 pm
by e_i_pi
Sounds like a freemium is getting his value for money...

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:26 pm
by king sam
There isnt anything wrong with non agressions at anytime. It actually is a smart move in the early rounds when the only territories you can try to conquer are guarded with 3 or more armies.

However I would consider it abuse of the game to take your turn and purposely never end it allowing the whole hour to run out. You have done the right thing by reporting it here, it will be looked at by a hunter and will be ruled upon as such. Most likely if it is proven the response will be to rate / foe as you see fit and a Warning might be issued to Wiivja to not proceed to do this in the future.


Best of Luck,
KS

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:35 pm
by Green88
Woodruff wrote:
Green88 wrote:You often do this right from the start of the game, as in the games with me. Game 4726988. You didn't attack in round 1. The game was lost in round 1? No, you just had to get to your other 500 games so you didn't have any time to spend on this one.


There's a vast difference between "500" and "189" (the current number of Wiivja's games). Overstating the situation only gives the impression that you're out to make someone look bad when they wouldn't otherwise.


I agree, but my main point still stands.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:37 pm
by Green88
e_i_pi wrote:Sounds like a freemium is getting his value for money...


huh?

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:38 pm
by Green88
king sam wrote:There isnt anything wrong with non agressions at anytime. It actually is a smart move in the early rounds when the only territories you can try to conquer are guarded with 3 or more armies.

However I would consider it abuse of the game to take your turn and purposely never end it allowing the whole hour to run out. You have done the right thing by reporting it here, it will be looked at by a hunter and will be ruled upon as such. Most likely if it is proven the response will be to rate / foe as you see fit and a Warning might be issued to Wiivja to not proceed to do this in the future.


Best of Luck,
KS


Thank-you. I have rated and foed. I just don't think this should be allowed to stand so I reported it.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:40 pm
by Green88
Wiivja wrote:I really do not understand you Green88. Are you someone I know in the real life?


You don't understand why people are annoyed that you join 189 games and then don't try to play (and by play I don't mean hitting the deploy armies button and move on to the next game) a good majority of them?

What exactly don't you understand?

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:51 pm
by Wiivja
If I didnt end my turn, it was a mistake due to slow connection. Happens sometimes for me. But Im playing all my games. Missed a few turns when I was sick, but everyone is sick sometimes or cant take their turns for some reason.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:05 pm
by apb23
I agree w/ Green 88...I played wiivja in an eastern hemisphere game in which he not only missed his turn...but also took his turns with few hours remaining. When I asked him to speed it up a little he simply said that he won't unless hes met me on another site.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:14 pm
by Green88
Wiivja wrote:If I didnt end my turn, it was a mistake due to slow connection. Happens sometimes for me. But Im playing all my games. Missed a few turns when I was sick, but everyone is sick sometimes or cant take their turns for some reason.


You're lying, which can be seen just by looking at your games. It's neither mistake nor slow connection since it is not just 'sometimes'.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:18 pm
by Wiivja
I was sick when I missed turn. And I take turns when I get to the games. Try playing almost 200 games yourself

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:58 pm
by devinsaway
i say he/she should be warned

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:02 am
by orator
i have a problem with this person too...she joined 2 of my 4 games and then refused to play them even though she was online for another hour. i repeatendly pm's her and she said that she will only take 1 turn a day unless i joined another site...when i refused she laughed at my request not to join anymore of my games

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:09 am
by Woodruff
orator wrote:i have a problem with this person too...she joined 2 of my 4 games and then refused to play them even though she was online for another hour. i repeatendly pm's her and she said that she will only take 1 turn a day unless i joined another site...when i refused she laughed at my request not to join anymore of my games


As annoying as I would also personally find that, she DOES have the right to only play once per day for each game.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:41 am
by dezzy26
dunno if wiivja has an ulterior motive but has anyone looked intop her/his games
almost everyone is with a freemie account

looks to me like there is quite a bit of abuse going on

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:50 am
by pistebasher
dezzy26 wrote:dunno if wiivja has an ulterior motive but has anyone looked intop her/his games
almost everyone is with a freemie account

looks to me like there is quite a bit of abuse going on


Absolutely right - over 90% of her last 100 games joined are exclussively with freemiums - in a couple of cases she has joined all 4 games set up by the same freemium and then not taken her turn for 18 hours, even though it was her to start. But she was still able to join more games, and has now set up 25, eight player games - they will last a while! Obviously her earlier comment as to why she might take a while 'You try playing almost 200 games' is just a lame excuse.

Looks more like she deliberately is blocking games with freemiums. :twisted:

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:01 am
by Wiivja
I play 1 on 1 games mainly because that makes me sure I dont play any multis

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:16 pm
by Green88
Wiivja wrote:I was sick when I missed turn. And I take turns when I get to the games. Try playing almost 200 games yourself


No thanks. Unlike yourself, I don't get off on being rude and making people wait forever to play.

Re: Wiivja

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:18 pm
by Green88
pistebasher wrote:
dezzy26 wrote:dunno if wiivja has an ulterior motive but has anyone looked intop her/his games
almost everyone is with a freemie account

looks to me like there is quite a bit of abuse going on


Absolutely right - over 90% of her last 100 games joined are exclussively with freemiums - in a couple of cases she has joined all 4 games set up by the same freemium and then not taken her turn for 18 hours, even though it was her to start. But she was still able to join more games, and has now set up 25, eight player games - they will last a while! Obviously her earlier comment as to why she might take a while 'You try playing almost 200 games' is just a lame excuse.

Looks more like she deliberately is blocking games with freemiums. :twisted:


Entirely possible since she's already stated in another thread that she thinks all freemiums should be kicked off the site.