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Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8 [cleared/noted]

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:59 pm
by Hertog Jan
Accused:

Hertog Jan
Serialkiller74
evilweasel8



The accused are suspected of

Conducting Secret Diplomacy: Hertog Jan and serialkiller

Other: Foul language: serialkiller and evilweasel8



Game number(s):

Game 4417059




Comments: Both other players have threatened to report eachother and myself for the accusations mentioned above. Both players have not commited to the threats so I figured I would do it for them.

Short summary of what has happened:
evilweasel at some point accused serialkiller and myself of having a secret alliance. I defended, but somehow evilweasel mistook my defence for and admittance. Then serialkiller defended and the level of the conversation went all downhill from there untill the point of extreme foul language of both players.

As for the point of the secret diplomacy. I plead innocent. And logically that would plead serialkiller innocent aswell, at least, in this game that is.

I ask that someone objectively takes a good look at the game and decides what had best be done (or not be done)

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:02 pm
by king sam
So your pretty much making a farse out of this process and asking a hunter to look into the foul language in chat of a couple players.

If so then the guidelines have been quoted over and over, Conquer Club takes a liberal stance on what is said in game chat, usually if it is by players involved in the game nothing will result from this unless the accused grossly offend or abuse others verbally (usually racism).

Let others post an accusation in here if they are in fact questioning you and come to defend yourself, rather then shine the light in your direction on purpose.

Most likely your response to this will be to FOE and rate the users accordingly if you choose to do so


King Sam

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:11 pm
by Kotaro
2009-03-26 16:13:17 - evilweasel8: either way go blow your priest like he did to u as a kid your both foed and the word will spread i gaurentee it


I don't think CC looks to kindly on children and explicit content talk ;)

2009-03-26 16:15:02 - serialkiller74: better then being a fucking albertan redneck asshole (and from the army...now i understand your attitude )

2009-03-26 11:51:46 - evilweasel8: looking at your ave, you one ugly cunt anyways, if you worry about a game to the point of your extreme i would bet your single and live with a family member like your mom while the priest watches


Haha. Nice.

2009-03-26 06:16:32 - evilweasel8: what you do green make a deal with pink without announcing? i ask because i have been watching his pattern and he sure is going out of his way to protect you!!!!!
2009-03-26 06:58:14 - Hertog Jan: possibly, but we did not commucate that to eachother, it's just we both seperately decided you were the biggest threat
2009-03-26 11:45:54 - evilweasel8: so you have admitted that you two have PM'ed each other refering to this game, if you determined i was biggest threat seperatly then there would have been no need to even have the PM to begin with


He's kinda dumb ;)

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:11 pm
by Hertog Jan
@ king sam

You are correct and I have no problem with this. I was not aware of the cc policy concerning ingame chat. (although I probably could have been if I took the time looking for it). And therefore posted this in order to find out.

Anyhow, I think I just got tired of folks getting all angry and screaming accusations along with insults threaten to file reports and then do nothing. I am sorry for wasting anyone's time with this.

regards
Hertog Jan

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:16 pm
by Hertog Jan
Kotaro wrote:
2009-03-26 06:16:32 - evilweasel8: what you do green make a deal with pink without announcing? i ask because i have been watching his pattern and he sure is going out of his way to protect you!!!!!
2009-03-26 06:58:14 - Hertog Jan: possibly, but we did not commucate that to eachother, it's just we both seperately decided you were the biggest threat
2009-03-26 11:45:54 - evilweasel8: so you have admitted that you two have PM'ed each other refering to this game, if you determined i was biggest threat seperatly then there would have been no need to even have the PM to begin with


He's kinda dumb ;)


Well he's in the army, that explains a lot.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:33 pm
by Woodruff
king sam wrote:So your pretty much making a farse out of this process and asking a hunter to look into the foul language in chat of a couple players.
If so then the guidelines have been quoted over and over, Conquer Club takes a liberal stance on what is said in game chat, usually if it is by players involved in the game nothing will result from this unless the accused grossly offend or abuse others verbally (usually racism).


I would state that there are in-game comments in this game that DO need to be looked at, along those lines. I think at least a warning is in order, personally.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:28 am
by king sam
Woodruff wrote:I would state that there are in-game comments in this game that DO need to be looked at, along those lines. I think at least a warning is in order, personally.


I agree, and furthermore was not trying to influence you not to post in C&A Hertog, just merely letting you know in most cases what is said in the in game chat doesn't ever peak the interests of the mods to do something about unless its gross abuse. (which like I said in most cases involves racism)

However, in this case their is some very vulgar statements that might get these 2 users a Warning of some sort.

Best of Luck,
King Sam

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:05 am
by jpcloet
You should also look to see if that person has previously been reported, regardless of whether they were cleared or not.

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=76955&start=0

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:04 pm
by Woodruff
jpcloet wrote:You should also look to see if that person has previously been reported, regardless of whether they were cleared or not.
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=76955&start=0


Good point, jpcloet. Well done.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:17 pm
by Kotaro
Hertog Jan wrote:
Well he's in the army, that explains a lot.


Well, I'm glad you can make jokes about someone that is patriotic enough to defend your freedoms as a person.

jpcloet wrote:You should also look to see if that person has previously been reported, regardless of whether they were cleared or not.

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=76955&start=0


because him not having a multi then MUST mean that he does now.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:16 pm
by jpcloet
If you could bother to read the whole prior report, you would notice Kotaro, that the bulk of the discussion is around his language and possible pm issues.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:11 pm
by Woodruff
Kotaro wrote:
jpcloet wrote:You should also look to see if that person has previously been reported, regardless of whether they were cleared or not.

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=76955&start=0


because him not having a multi then MUST mean that he does now.


No, not at all. You seem to be making a presumption about that thread without reading
it. That thread is very relevant to this thread.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:12 pm
by DarthBlood
i just cant believe you actually reported yourself. i understand your reasoning, but this is the first time i've actually seen someone do it. lol.

and i agree with what kotaro said above. he (evilweasel) is kinda dumb. lol.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:56 pm
by jpcloet
Players often report themselves to prove they are not cheating.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:37 am
by evilweasel8
Well in my defense i decided not to make a report because i was not entirely positive about the alliance, i was told that there might have been a conversation about my postioning on the board, how ever this was in sinque with the fact that the other players attack pattern was only on me at that point, so i do apoligize for my foul mouth but i feel i was provoked, not a excuse, just the reason, so with this being said i am sorry for hurting your feelers with feeble game chat and CC does not have to warn me about anything, i consider this a warning on it's own, and furthermore i have never been in this situation regarding foul mouth and i do not need a multi, i like the site but not that much, if i banned owell, I'll live-- if not this wont happen again, i learned not to let a game with some one i'll never ever meet bother me to that extent again.

Re: Hertog Jan, Serialkiller74, evilweasel8

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:56 am
by king achilles
There is a misunderstanding between evilweasel8 and Hertog Jan in the game chat, as what Kotaro pointed in one of his posts here. Anyway, regarding a secret diplomacy in this game, they are cleared. As for any foul language said in this game, since this has been reported, you can say that this has also been noted.