Conquer Club

Accused:

boboson
lespaulstudio

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Point Sharing

Game number(s):

Game 4403058 which is the game I am in...
...just check all the games they are in. They don't play a game without each other.

Comments:
-their turns come within moments of each other
-all games played have been with/against each other
-in the game I am playing, neither one is breaking the other
-in the game I am playing, attacking me for the majority
-in the game I am playing, attacking me as opposed to breaking the opponent

I can't see how these two don't get dinged for this.

Check the time stamps....multihunters should be able to see the log-on, log-off times and see that one is not online at the same time as the other...

2009-03-05 23:58:29 - lespaulstudio reinforced O2 with 2 troops from O4
2009-03-05 23:59:28 - boboson receives 4 troops for 14 regions

2009-03-06 01:16:23 - lespaulstudio reinforced N8 with 4 troops from S1
2009-03-06 01:17:34 - boboson receives 4 troops for 13 regions

2009-03-06 01:42:44 - lespaulstudio reinforced A7 with 2 troops from O1
2009-03-06 01:43:23 - boboson receives 3 troops for holding Brown Pentagons

2009-03-06 02:07:30 - lespaulstudio reinforced E3 with 8 troops from E7
2009-03-06 02:08:19 - boboson receives 4 troops for 13 regions

2009-03-06 20:09:52 - lespaulstudio reinforced E3 with 3 troops from A7
2009-03-06 20:22:54 - boboson receives 3 troops for 11 regions

2009-03-07 01:48:34 - lespaulstudio reinforced E3 with 2 troops from A7
2009-03-07 01:52:16 - boboson receives 4 troops for 13 regions

it is continuing...

once lespaulstudio takes a turn, he logs out, then boboson takes a turn immediately afterward.

Please look at this and follow them in real time!

Accused:
boboson
lespaulstudio

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Point Sharing

Game number(s):

1 on 1 games

• Game 4151438 lespaulstudio won
• Game 4151640 lespaulstudio won
• Game 4171968 lespaulstudio won
• Game 4184490 boboson won
• Game 4228335 lespaulstudio won
• Game 4292206 boboson won
• Game 4330859 lespaulstudio won

Teams matches opposite teams

• Game 4285610 lespaulstudio team won

Teams matches same team

• Game 4374241 Won by other team
• Game 4403072 Still going
• Game 4408732 Teams match awaiting players

Games with other users in it that are non teams
Game 4408732 Assassin game Still going
Game 4351434 Terminator game lespaulstudio won
Game 4403058 Terminator game Still going

All of boboson's games include lespaulstudio


I'm sick of looking through their games trying to piece together when both users are actively taking turns at the same time. Conveniently it works out as I have found that one will take turns in multiple games before they other takes turns in the same similar ones, leaving me to believe at the least that this is either:

• 2 accounts using the same computer
• 1 person who has more then 1 account

Evidence that could suggest that its the same user that hasnt already been brought it is as follows:

Game 4131619 Log wrote:2009-01-30 18:50:19 - Incrementing game to round 8
2009-01-31 18:50:19 - lespaulstudio missed a turn
2009-01-31 18:50:19 - Incrementing game to round 9

Game 4151640 Log wrote:2009-01-30 03:35:00 - lespaulstudio gets spoils
2009-01-31 03:35:00 - boboson missed a turn
2009-01-31 03:35:00 - Incrementing game to round 6

Both accounts were gone for most of the day on Jan 30th and missed turns in 2 separate games, but I did find this when I was digging so I might be over interpreting it.

Either way, a quick IP check will shore this up.

Good Luck
King Sam

Great investigation! That is some solid evidence.

lespaulstudio and boboson are busted along with unicorndreams

Thanky ou for looking into this. Does this mean they will be prevented from taking their turns...or that points will be given back to players who lost to them?

sully800 wrote:Great investigation! That is some solid evidence.

lespaulstudio and boboson are busted along with unicorndreams

Man I saw the user unicorndreams and thought that it was involved too but didn't want to get to hasty and predict it as a multi as well. Guess I should have

shanksdigs wrote:Thank you for looking into this. Does this mean they will be prevented from taking their turns...or that points will be given back to players who lost to them?

They will be able to finish all their turns in the games they are in, and every account except the original one will be closed and done on the site. The original account which ever it was will be allowed to buy back in as a premium or will remain a free account until they break the rules again.

So good luck with them cause you will still have to play them

King Sam

I truly believe that multis should be blocked from accessing their account. Why they are allowed to continue on a path that was a violation of the rules in the first place just doesn't make sense. It would seem to me that blocking their access to their accoutn would be the only fair thing to do to those they are cheating.

Is there no reward for identifying them? It seems the community gets a reward, but the affected individuals don't even get a pat on the back.

And, in case anyone is planning on posting *pats shanksdigs on the back* you can keep that hunorous anecdote to yourself.

shanksdigs wrote:I truly believe that multis should be blocked from accessing their account. Why they are allowed to continue on a path that was a violation of the rules in the first place just doesn't make sense. It would seem to me that blocking their access to their accoutn would be the only fair thing to do to those they are cheating.

My guess is the logic behind letting them continue playing the active games they are in is so

• they dont hold up the progress of the games
• if their allowed to deadbeat and all the territories either go to a partner in a teams game or neutral in non teams this can help another player have a better position then he had before

Just my best guess though

Do cheaters ever get blocked? When will these two players no longer have access to their games? Can't we just lock the door...i.e., reset their password and not tell them?

Am I forced to lose to this cheater?

shanksdigs wrote:Do cheaters ever get blocked? When will these two players no longer have access to their games? Can't we just lock the door...i.e., reset their password and not tell them?

Am I forced to lose to this cheater?

Yes they are allowed to finish the game, so yes you still need to play to win the game cause you will lose the points if you lose

Wait, hold on. I know these people, these are three seperate people. Lespaulstudio is one of my good friends named Forrest. His brother is boboson whose name is Devon. And Unicorndreams is our friend Mallory. Devon can never remember to take his turn so he always takes it after his older brother on the same computer. Mallory tried Conquer Club but could never stay consistent with it because she is always busy so Forrest takes some of her turns for her. I have talked to Forrest and he has said that he will convince his brother to stop playing if he can keep his account. Mallory never plays anymore anyway. If this isn't enough, I have four other people that are willing to "testify" with what I am saying, three of them are our friends and one them is my father who has met everyone. BambamA17, Mknight087, Happyhysterics and WilliamHansonLaw. It also may look like I am a multi simply because I have logged on to my friends computer when I was at his house. I have also logged onto my dads computer when I was at his work. You will also see that some of us have played many games together but simply because we like the game, is that grounds for calling our friend a multi? I think the moderators should look deeper into this.

astronautg117 wrote:Wait, hold on. I know these people, these are three seperate people. Lespaulstudio is one of my good friends named Forrest. His brother is boboson whose name is Devon. And Unicorndreams is our friend Mallory. Devon can never remember to take his turn so he always takes it after his older brother on the same computer. Mallory tried Conquer Club but could never stay consistent with it because she is always busy so Forrest takes some of her turns for her. I have talked to Forrest and he has said that he will convince his brother to stop playing if he can keep his account. Mallory never plays anymore anyway. If this isn't enough, I have four other people that are willing to "testify" with what I am saying, three of them are our friends and one them is my father who has met everyone. BambamA17, Mknight087, Happyhysterics and WilliamHansonLaw. It also may look like I am a multi simply because I have logged on to my friends computer when I was at his house. I have also logged onto my dads computer when I was at his work. You will also see that some of us have played many games together but simply because we like the game, is that grounds for calling our friend a multi? I think the moderators should look deeper into this.

Oh snap! The plot thickens...

As a side note, they shouldn't take turns for one another

Isnt it the same as someone sitting an account for someone else?

Account sitting is one thing. Simply taking their turns for them, without any reasoning other then "they forget a lot", isn't very welcome in the Admin circles.

No, no. Youve got it all wrong. Mallory is the only one Forrest had to take turns for and that was because she was busy with Model UN. But his brother simply took his turn because he saw his older brother playing and that reminded him to get on, they live in the same room and have to share a computer which is why they show up on the same IP.

so, im verifying what atronautg117 said---lespaulstudio is a friend of mine, boboson's his little brother, and unicornsdreams is another friend who just doesnt play often. it would make sense if lespaulstudio and boboson both missed turns at around the same time, considering their brothers (like a family trip or something?) and there have also been several games they didnt play together, and lespaulstudio still killed me easily. he doesnt NEED to cheat.

Goddamnit mate.

You should've gone to the help tab at the top, and submitted an e-ticket, NOT created a new account. You've just fucked any chance at getting this overturned. Sorry mate.

look at the games she has played!! 3 days ago!!! Look at the log!!!

If moderators look at Happyhysterics, they will see that she never logged on on my IP and I never logged on hers. I recruited Mknight087 and she recruited Happyhysterics over 5 days ago. Look at the logs and her games.

Game 4344969
That is the first game happyhysterics has ever played, and was before lespaulstudio was accused. Mknight087 was teaching her how to play.
Game 4373265
That is her second game with all of us except for boboson and unicorndreams
Game 4387296
Her third game, my and my best friend against her and her best friend.
Game 4402378
Her fourth and last game against the accused.

Kotaro wrote:Goddamnit mate.

You should've gone to the help tab at the top, and submitted an e-ticket, NOT created a new account. You've just fucked any chance at getting this overturned. Sorry mate.

Look at happyhysterics games... that's all I have to say.

Those of you that survive this fiasco should just play private games, if you want to play each other. Then there is no chance of playing unfairly against an unsuspecting player.

mpjh wrote:Those of you that survive this fiasco should just play private games, if you want to play each other. Then there is no chance of playing unfairly against an unsuspecting player.

That's what we've been doing recently, look at my games if you want. The only time I've played with these people with people outside of this group has been in team game's where it is ok to work together.

if you look down at the bottom of the page, youll see that astronautg117, lespaulstudio, and i are all online at the same time. btw