Conquer Club

Accused: DaGip

The accused are suspected of: continually posting personal info within the forums

Comments:

this user is posting a personal photo of myself as his avatar within the forums (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=73867). despite having it removed by Twill for an earlier infraction. it is a no no listed in the forum guidelines. he was already banned for 3 days for using my image as a flame, when he wrote "cock sucker" on my image, and is continuing to use my image. he needs a longer time out. this is absolutely a rules violation:

Don't ever post personal information of other users. Anywhere. Ever. Even if they already posted it somewhere else. This includes posting personal information about a CC user on another site, you will be held accountable here.


hopefully, he can receive the same ban as Dancing Mustard did, as this is the warning listed in the thread at the top of the Tower of Babble, where he is posting. and he was already given a time out for using my avatar:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=71415

anything less than what DM received for posting private info will be an absolute joke and a slap in the face of the forums and your own guidelines listed at the top of the Tower of Babble. he was banned and warned for his "cock sucker" owen avatar. and now his "free me" owen avatar is use of personal info within the forums which is absolutely forbidden according to your own forum rules.

thank you. the black jesus has spoken.-0

p.s.-twill removed the offending avatar, and dagip has reposted it. this is a seperate C&A from the previous [settled] one.

owenshooter wrote:Accused: DaGip

The accused are suspected of: continually posting personal info within the forums

Comments:

this user is posting a personal photo of myself as his avatar within the forums (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=73867). despite having it removed by Twill for an earlier infraction. it is a no no listed in the forum guidelines. he was already banned for 3 days for using my image as a flame, when he wrote "cock sucker" on my image, and is continuing to use my image. he needs a longer time out. this is absolutely a rules violation:

Don't ever post personal information of other users. Anywhere. Ever. Even if they already posted it somewhere else. This includes posting personal information about a CC user on another site, you will be held accountable here.


hopefully, he can receive the same ban as Dancing Mustard did, as this is the warning listed in the thread at the top of the Tower of Babble, where he is posting. and he was already given a time out for using my avatar:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=71415

anything less than what DM received for posting private info will be an absolute joke and a slap in the face of the forums and your own guidelines listed at the top of the Tower of Babble. he was banned and warned for his "cock sucker" owen avatar. and now his "free me" owen avatar is use of personal info within the forums which is absolutely forbidden according to your own forum rules.

thank you. the black jesus has spoken.-0

p.s.-twill removed the offending avatar, and dagip has reposted it. this is a seperate C&A from the previous [settled] one.

I totally agree with owen, since a precidence was made when banning DM (and others no doubt) for violating the rules, then DaGip should expect to recieve the same sanction imposed on Dancing Mustard and if not, why not?

If Dagrip has no problem with owen and is starting a free owen thread, then I think he should have no problem changing his avitar unless he is joking and still trying to piss Owen off.

Is that a rhetorical question? This one is.

Vace Cooper wrote:If Dagrip has no problem with owen and is starting a free owen thread, then I think he should have no problem changing his avitar unless he is joking and still trying to piss Owen off.

garbage, he had "cock sucker" on my IMAGE which he does not have my permission to use, and it was removed by twill. when his 3 day ban was up, he returned, and reposted MY IMAGE with "free owen" on it, against the guidelines and rules of the community. they clearly state:

Don't ever post personal information of other users. Anywhere. Ever. Even if they already posted it somewhere else. This includes posting personal information about a CC user on another site, you will be held accountable here.

he has RE-POSTED personal info of another user, which he is not allowed to do, even if i have posted it somewhere else (my old avatar/my clan sig), and he needs a DM ban, period. i don't think there is anything muddy about this...-0

Just curious, I thought the person in the picture was white, yet you keep claiming to be black jesus. So how could the picture have been you??

Anywho, he was warned and changed the avatar.

EDIT: DM's 1 month vacation was due to his prior infractions, not b/c he posted personal information.

Night Strike wrote:Just curious, I thought the person in the picture was white, yet you keep claiming to be black jesus. So how could the picture have been you??

Anywho, he was warned and changed the avatar.

EDIT: DM's 1 month vacation was due to his prior infractions, not b/c he posted personal information.

the image is of me, period. he was banned and had the avatar removed by twill, he did not remove it of his own will. he then came off of his ban for posting my image, and reposted the image which twill had removed. how does he receive a warning for something he was already previously banned for? are the rules not clear enough? "anywho", methinks someone needs to let king achilles look at this...-0

maybe this will help you understand the rule i am sighting, night strike... you may
know the mod that posted this in tower of babble to try and clarify the rules about
posting personal information. maybe you can send him a pm to get the rule clarified...
link to the thread and an excerpt:

Subject: Personal Information

Night Strike wrote:If a user wishes to post their OWN picture, email, phone number, address, social security number or whatever the heck they want, they can. But posting that information about someone ELSE is not allowed. This site is for users to be anonymous and not to have other people post personal information about them. And getting permission from someone to post information about them is NOT allowed either.

I am aware of the thread I posted. In this situation, I followed the list of steps that I was told to take when there is an offensive avatar. In fact, I actually skipped the friendly warning and went straight to a formal warning. You're just upset that I chose to cut someone a bit of slack rather than immediately throw the book at them. I chose to send him a warning rather than go straight to an admin (b/c I'm not allowed to give the length of vacations that you want), and he actually complied with the request. Believe it or not, the Team does not wish to ban everybody.

And please stop PMing me with the exact same comments you make in public........I do read the forums.

I believe you're doing well and fine, Night Strike; I understand the part where it got removed for the 1st offense, but I'm confused. Was the 1 month ban for using the picture a 2nd time, despite the formal warning? Or was another warning given?

Kotaro wrote:I believe you're doing well and fine, Night Strike; I understand the part where it got removed for the 1st offense, but I'm confused. Was the 1 month ban for using the picture a 2nd time, despite the formal warning? Or was another warning given?

Just wanted to clear this up. DaGip received a three day forum vacation for flaming owen in a post in the Off Topics forum. After he was on his vacation, a mod saw the first avatar of owen (after the mod saw the avatar and a PM was sent, another user made a thread about the avatar) and the avatar was removed. The second avatar was noted by owen and a thread was created. This time he was warned for the avatar. He is currently not on any sort of forum vacation, owen is asking that a one month ban be implemented. None of the regular mods can give this long of a ban, so asking NS to do so is like asking time to go backward, it cannot happen.

True, it is a lot to ask.. but if he's intentionally breaking the rules, repeatedly and not caring that mods are warning and removing this things, and it's something personal... An admin should really do something.

Kotaro wrote:I believe you're doing well and fine, Night Strike; I understand the part where it got removed for the 1st offense, but I'm confused. Was the 1 month ban for using the picture a 2nd time, despite the formal warning? Or was another warning given?

no, twill removed it for him during his 3 day ban. when he returned, he placed my personal photo back up as his avatar, against CC rules, and this time was warned. sooo, second offense, you get a lesser punishment? that makes absolutely ZERO sense. still waiting to hear a real answer as to how/why this is possible. i have never received a less severe punishment for repeating an infraction within the forums. DaGip should receive the same ban DM is currently under, as he returned from a ban and willfully placed my personal photo back up as his avatar. period. i don't even see why there is a discussion, and i consider this far from resolved. the black jesus has spoken.-0

Night Strike wrote:I am aware of the thread I posted. In this situation, I followed the list of steps that I was told to take when there is an offensive avatar. In fact, I actually skipped the friendly warning and went straight to a formal warning. You're just upset that I chose to cut someone a bit of slack rather than immediately throw the book at them. I chose to send him a warning rather than go straight to an admin (b/c I'm not allowed to give the length of vacations that you want), and he actually complied with the request. Believe it or not, the Team does not wish to ban everybody.

And please stop PMing me with the exact same comments you make in public........I do read the forums.

the point is he is a repeat offender, that has already "served" a 3 day ban for the same offense. so going back to a formal warning doesnt seem to make too much sense...
and the guy in the picture IS owen and black.

Hi Owen, welcome back. I see you are back into the swing of things already.

Da Gip may have used your avatar, to get back at you for some earlier derisive comment you directed at him, but he went on to apologize and even set up a thread to encourage pro-Owen solidarity. He said this:

Sorry, I got banned before I could respond. I was only joking. Albeit a rude joke. I was in the middle of responding to the thread in which I got the ban, so that I could say that I thought the reason for Owen's ban was quite absurd. I didn't read anything in his posts that came close to a flame. I only flamed Owen because he was banned, and the last time I was banned, he posted in Free DaGip that he didn't give a crap, so I thought I would return the favor, but with a little bit more added flavor.

My apologies to Owen, I don't hate you...you are alright.

I believe he is actually on your side although evidently you prefer to continue the public mud-slinging with the intent of procuring him a longer time-out rather than discreetly asking him that you'd have preferred the removal of said avatar.

You seem to thrive on conflict so here's a question for you; why, when you are obviously NOT Jesus, are you using a picture of him in your avatar? I'm not religious at all, but you never know, apart from publicly displaying personal information (according to some) you may also be causing distress to some posters here by ridiculing their God. Do you have permission from God to use that particular picture? Don't you think referring to yourself as the 'black Jesus' could, by some be considered blasphemous?

Yes, I know it's ridiculous, but that's precisely my point. The whole 'personal info' thing has become a joke for pedantic hair-splitters to eat away at.

I do understand your not wanting him to use your picture, however. The solution was simple - ask him to remove it. Night Strike did - problem solved.

mandy, you might look into what people call "trolling". because thats what DaGip was doing

mandyb wrote:I do understand your not wanting him to use your picture, however. The solution was simple - ask him to remove it. Night Strike did - problem solved.

the solution was simple the first time when twill removed it for him during his three day ban. Night Strikes solution should not have even been necessary had he not re-committed the offense he was just banned for. i just find it quite odd that someone is banned for an offense, then comes right back and recommits the same offense, and a warning is issued instead of a longer ban being handed out. i am satisfied that king achilles is looking into it further, thanks to PM's we have swapped. and whatever the ruling is this go around, i'll be satisifed that it was at least truly looked at after i was able to voice my concerns... however, the precident was set with DM, and i feel it should hold true in this case, too... maybe not as long, but at least a week... the black jesus has spoken...-0

p.s.-how am i slinging mud by defending my personal image? wasn't his plastering "c*ck sucker" on my avatar the last time, mud slinging? i haven't said anything offensive or untrue about DaGip within this thread. i filled out a form and there is a civil discourse about the situation going on. i have no idea how you could call this thread "mud slinging"...

owenshooter wrote:

mandyb wrote:I do understand your not wanting him to use your picture, however. The solution was simple - ask him to remove it. Night Strike did - problem solved.

the solution was simple the first time when twill removed it for him during his three day ban. Night Strikes solution should not have even been necessary had he not re-committed the offense he was just banned for. i just find it quite odd that someone is banned for an offense, then comes right back and recommits the same offense, and a warning is issued instead of a longer ban being handed out. i am satisfied that king achilles is looking into it further, thanks to PM's we have swapped. and whatever the ruling is this go around, i'll be satisifed that it was at least truly looked at after i was able to voice my concerns... however, the precident was set with DM, and i feel it should hold true in this case, too... maybe not as long, but at least a week... the black jesus has spoken...-0

p.s.-how am i slinging mud by defending my personal image? wasn't his plastering "c*ck sucker" on my avatar the last time, mud slinging? i haven't said anything offensive or untrue about DaGip within this thread. i filled out a form and there is a civil discourse about the situation going on. i have no idea how you could call this thread "mud slinging"...

The only problem I have is understanding your continuing need to ensure a longer ban.
(As has already been explained by Night Strike, DM's ban was an accumulation of other misdemeanors.)
Besides, Da Gip's 'offence' the second time around was not the same - there's a big difference between 'cock sucker' and 'free Owen', I think you'll agree.
Anyway, Da Gip apologized after the first misdeed, tried to make amends, which went down badly and has now removed the avatar.
Why do you have to over-dramatize everything?
I always heard that Jesus was the forgiving kind, not the sort of deity to continue nip-picking his way from one Christmas to the next.

Alright owen, seeing as you want us to enforce the rules so equally, and based on the comment I made in the last thread about DaGip here, the comment I made to you when I told you to remove the pictures of the bandits with their undies on their heads even though you had permission, the rule which you have so kindly posted many many times here now that says that you can't post personal info ever, the fact that you have made claims which are blatantly false (I did not ever ban gip for using your avatar, I put him on a vacation for flaming you in a separate instance and removed the avatar because it was a flame) and because of the fact that you have decided to spam mods really annoyingly to make your case heard, I am hereby placing anyone who sports your image on a 24 hour forum vacation because

Don't ever post personal information of other users. Anywhere. Ever. Even if they already posted it somewhere else. This includes posting personal information about a CC user on another site, you will be held accountable here.

Now, this includes DaGip, but it will also include all bandits who have your image in their banners. I am also placing you on a 24 hour vacation for using other people's images in your banner.

You asked for it, you pushed for it, you were really damn annoying about it and now you got it. Be careful what you troll mods for.
You are not jesus, you are just annoying

Have a good one
Twill

Haha Twill rules

Epic! Where has the Twill of the last 7 days been all my life? This is great stuff!

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Look, I just posted the personal information of a half dozen users!

hecter wrote:mod edit[/img]
Look, I just posted the personal information of a half dozen users!

And I quoted it! We're in for it now.

And look! You're both on forum vacations now too!

Look, guys, if you're going to be douchebags on purpose, we're going to be douchebags right back.

This whole thing is completely ridiculous, and is meant to be. The personal information rule is there to protect the people behind the screens from people who would abuse them. Owen wants to push his own agenda using it (really mate, you should have just claimed he was trolling you, it would have made a lot more sense) and Hecter and Timmy, you just want to be trolls with it.

If you want to push a rule outside of it's intended purpose by misconstruing the words, then sure, we'll play ball, but expect us to enforce it to the sames word with you as well. And then if you're going to play the "look at me mommy! I'm a rebel on teh in0rnetz!" game, well, you're idiots.

Have fun on your vacations guys. Lets not do this again, eh?
Twill

Optimus Prime wrote:Epic! Where has the Twill of the last 7 days been all my life? This is great stuff!

No it wasn't.