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Velvecarrots [Settled]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:31 pm
by Ramned
Ban them. :twisted:


That's two point dumpers in two days!!

Re: Velvecarrots

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:32 pm
by ManBungalow
Ramned wrote:Ban them. :twisted:


That's two point dumpers in two days!!

It's not gonna get looked at unless you use the form...

Re: Velvecarrots

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:33 pm
by Ramned
A mod will see it

Re: Velvecarrots

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:40 pm
by guylian
the guy is playing about 45 speed 2 player games at the same time against the same person and winning all of them, if this doesn't deserve a points reset then nothing does

EDIT- they are starting loads more aswell

Re: Velvecarrots [No Form]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:47 pm
by nagerous
Both appear to be guests now, so I guess they have been dealt with already.

Re: Velvecarrots [No Form]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:51 pm
by Seulessliathan
looks like their accounts have been hacked ... you can see the flag, it´s UK .... and Velve already talked with NightStriker who decided to ban them for now to prevent the hacker from starting more games.

Re: Velvecarrots [No Form]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:50 pm
by nagerous
Seriously? Well regardless of hacking, a point reset should be handed out, maybe they went to the UK to play off this scam, or proxies were involved. The vast change in Velvecarrots points should not be allowed.

Re: Velvecarrots [No Form]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:04 pm
by lancehoch
The two accounts have been inactivated, if they are reading this and would like to have this looked at further, please send an eticket. Moved to Closed Reports.

Re: Velvecarrots [No Form]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:07 pm
by The Fuzzy Pengui
Note this isn't an official stance from the site, just what I know has happened :)

Seulessliathan wrote:looks like their accounts have been hacked ... you can see the flag, it´s UK .... and Velve already talked with NightStriker who decided to ban them for now to prevent the hacker from starting more games.

Just verifying this is correct. I was talking it over with velve, as well as NS and the accounts have been banned so the hacked accounts wouldn't have anything else happen to them.
nagerous wrote:Seriously? Well regardless of hacking, a point reset should be handed out, maybe they went to the UK to play off this scam, or proxies were involved. The vast change in Velvecarrots points should not be allowed.

I'm pretty sure they won't allow the points to stay how they are now. Whether it's resetting to their original points, or completely back to 1000...I'm honestly not sure of the policy on that. I can tell you that from what I can tell velve was not involved in this at all. He sent me a message on MSN as soon as he could no longer access his account and couldn't get his password sent to his e-mail he signed up with. I seriously doubt the points will stand as they are now...but the banning occurred so there would not be a greater point fluctuation.

We're pretty sure we know what happened (NS, velve, and myself), but it should be figured out pretty quickly.

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:30 pm
by khazalid
no trouble believing velve is innocent, consider that a character reference

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:00 pm
by TheBro
That sucks. :roll:

Point reset to 1000 would suck for whoever has to play against him, not sure if a point reset to what it was at (3700 ish??) is possible/fair.

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:25 pm
by Prankcall
lt.pie no longer exists as well.. what's up with that???

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:32 pm
by The Fuzzy Pengui
Prankcall wrote:lt.pie no longer exists as well.. what's up with that???

Maybe the same thing?

I'm pretty sure his flag normally shows Australia, not UK...maybe his was hacked too (they were all 3 in the same clan)?

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:37 pm
by TeeGee
The LoW clan is one of the great clans at this place and to see this happen is absolutely shocking.
I hope it can be sorted ASAP

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:54 am
by benjis_widow
TeeGee wrote:The LoW clan is one of the great clans at this place and to see this happen is absolutely shocking.
I hope it can be sorted ASAP


I really do find it shocking and disgusting that someone could hack into someone else's account and interfere in their games.

This has actually happened to us recently too........some hacked into the BENJIKAT IS DEAD account, took his turns and changed the password and email address so that Ben and i couldn't access this account we paid paid for.........

*smiles*......luckily i was able to resolve this and get back said information......but still.......i think the "friends" who was entrusted with a password and then STOLE in this manner ought to be ashamed of themselves.

velve and waseem...........cheats will never prosper and crime doesn't pay!

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:36 am
by Bruceswar
Soo what is the story here?

Lt. Pie
Velve
Benji
Wase

All toast? What the hell happen?

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:44 am
by TeeGee
Benji and lt.pie need to be restored immediately.

This truly sucks that innocent users can be banned without notice for something they played no part in

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:54 am
by e_i_pi
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hey purps, no-one has my account password, so good luck dragging my name through the mud while you're at it...

There has been a multiple account hack in LoW affecting several members. We are taking measures to determine which accounts are affected, and which are susceptible to attack. This is being sorted out internally, and I am liaising with the mods about what steps should be taken. If anyone has questions, PM me, I'll answer what I can.

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:55 am
by e_i_pi
TeeGee wrote:Benji and lt.pie need to be restored immediately.

This truly sucks that innocent users can be banned without notice for something they played no part in

I believe the ban is a backburning measure. While it will cause damage, it will minimise the potential damage. Please be patient and understanding while this is happening, we are trying to get to the bottom of it.

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:20 am
by TeeGee
e_i_pi wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Benji and lt.pie need to be restored immediately.

This truly sucks that innocent users can be banned without notice for something they played no part in

I believe the ban is a backburning measure. While it will cause damage, it will minimise the potential damage. Please be patient and understanding while this is happening, we are trying to get to the bottom of it.


Just been sending messages to pie.. he trusts you will do the right thing and is happy to have you deal with it :) I think he is just a bit upset that he got dragged into it in this way and can't play at the moment.

If you want/need any message passed on let me know

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:29 am
by e_i_pi
TeeGee wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Benji and lt.pie need to be restored immediately.

This truly sucks that innocent users can be banned without notice for something they played no part in

I believe the ban is a backburning measure. While it will cause damage, it will minimise the potential damage. Please be patient and understanding while this is happening, we are trying to get to the bottom of it.


Just been sending messages to pie.. he trusts you will do the right thing and is happy to have you deal with it :) I think he is just a bit upset that he got dragged into it in this way and can't play at the moment.

If you want/need any message passed on let me know

Cheers TeeGee. If you could PM his contact details that would be great, as we are currently forced to correspond via an unhacked account :|

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:56 am
by jpcloet
Was a multi check done on these accounts? Maybe the IP check will indicate who's ultimately responsible?

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:44 am
by e_i_pi
jpcloet wrote:Was a multi check done on these accounts? Maybe the IP check will indicate who's ultimately responsible?

Current speculation is that it's benji's_widow. BENJI had all the turn taking passwords stored in saved messages we believe - I think maybe 4 accounts were affected all up including BENJI's. I'd say the IP addy would be the same as benji's_widow, though I've heard no correspondence from the mods.

This sux even more than usual as we were trying to wrap up all of Benji's games, in tournaments and clan challenges and so replaced him with...

waseemalim, Velvecarrots, lt.pie :?

So our G1 challenge is basically screwed, and all the tournament stuff, including the Olympics Clan tournament challenge (which just entered it's next round) will see a whole bunch of deadbeating by our clan.

Personally, I'm not real happy about it all, and it shits me that i've been caught up in something from some (and I hope Ben doesn't take this personally) some dumb b*tches attempt to prove that she is genetically retarded in the head, brain, face, and whereever the f*ck else. I, and several others, are doing our best to keep the clan running, and stunts such as this only serve to induce Ben back to somewhere where he is actually appreciated, and not treated like some f*cking prisoner of war.

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:28 am
by e_i_pi
benjis_widow wrote:
TeeGee wrote:The LoW clan is one of the great clans at this place and to see this happen is absolutely shocking.
I hope it can be sorted ASAP


I really do find it shocking and disgusting that someone could hack into someone else's account and interfere in their games.

This has actually happened to us recently too........some hacked into the BENJIKAT IS DEAD account, took his turns and changed the password and email address so that Ben and i couldn't access this account we paid paid for.........

*smiles*......luckily i was able to resolve this and get back said information......but still.......i think the "friends" who was entrusted with a password and then STOLE in this manner ought to be ashamed of themselves.

velve and waseem...........cheats will never prosper and crime doesn't pay!

Just in response to this ... the password was changed and Benji was aware of it, and what the password was changed to. There is no doubt about this, especially in light of the actions that ensued.

I dearly hope the mods can see what is going on here, and take the appropriate action against the user benjis_widow. Whatever the motivation, it is entirely unnecessary for it to affect a multitude of people.

Re: Velvecarrots [Banned]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:36 am
by Prankcall
Figured something along these lines.I'm sure this will be fixed and for the record Velve had 3749 before any of this started to occur so if we are talking a score reset maybe back to his original score? Also most people are only aware of the speed games created and missed the fact she went into casual games and killed off/attacked our teammates!!!