Conquer Club

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:56 pm**

Accused:

Maxatstuy
maxs account

Joined:
Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:21 pm
Last visited:
Thu May 01, 2008 2:27 pm

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis- had said in game chat that he created a new account. Something to do with win percentages or 4 games being full before Manimal bought him premium. I have over 1300 games and unable to find the game #.

Almost identical game types being played by both.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:08 am**

That not at all what happened and everything is already explained in a pre-existing thread and E-ticket

this was already cleared multiple times and your attempts to libel my name because you dont have any way of justifying yourself, and your cheating with bruce, is wrong and pitiful. All you are doing to attempting to divert everyone's attention from your cheating thread hoping it will pass over, just because you realize that attacking me is the only way of defending yourself. I feel sorry for what lack of character and dignity you must have to actually try something as pathetic as this thread.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:13 am**

Based on the recent JCKing bust there is at least some weight to the multi claim. 2 accounts ,regardless of if both are active, seems to be the current rule. I'm looking forward to a consistent ruling.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:20 am**

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=66071&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&p=1632900&view=show#p1632900

king achilles wrote:Too clean. Cleared.

it was tried and cleared. when I was a noob, I was suspected of being multis with both my brother and maxs account. I explained each account in an E-ticket and I was cleared. You can try me for being a multi all you want Scott, it does change the outcome and the fact that you are a cheater

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:43 am**

maxatstuy wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=66071&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&p=1632900&view=show#p1632900

king achilles wrote:Too clean. Cleared.

it was tried and cleared. when I was a noob, I was suspected of being multis with both my brother and maxs account. I explained each account in an E-ticket and I was cleared. You can try me for being a multi all you want Scott, it does change the outcome and the fact that you are a cheater

That topic has nothing to do with this one. That was a different accusation. This thread is about maxatstuy and maxs account. Where in that thread does it mention maxs account?

Edit: Yes I know someone mentioned it in a post in that thread, but the OP did not include that name in the accusation, therefore was not cleared in the thread.

I don't know if what you say about maxs account being cleared before, but posting that thread as proof, doesn't seem to show it.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:58 am**

The next post in the thread Maxatstuy linked.

maxs account however was used in order to try to get my parents to learn how to play. Obviously I was telling them what to do, but it wasnt me playing.

I fail to see the functional difference in playing 2 accounts and playing 1 account while "directing" a secondary account. Assuming that these are equivalent then based on the JCKing bust, it follows that Maxatstuy is also a multi.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:23 am**

A couple of games of maxs account's are not indicative that Maxatstuy's parents were playing the account at all.

Game 2142657

2008-04-01 21:54:48 - zlotan93: how old are you?
2008-04-01 21:55:15 - maxs account: I am in high school...a sophmore

A sophomore is 15 or 16 if I remember correctly, guess Max's mom was pregnant with him around the age of 1. Or she started the adoption paperwork while in the womb herself if you prefer a less pedophilic impossibility.

Game 2097381

2008-03-25 21:12:55 - maxs account: sorry for delays, I am watching a game with Paddy and Warsteiner

Isn't Paddy the Cat Maxatstuy's online buddy? Would either of his parent's care?

The first quote is pretty damning in my opinion. Even if maxs account has been abandoned there should be a premium strip if the JCKing bust is the baseline.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:28 am**

maxs account however was used in order to try to get my parents to learn how to play. Obviously I was telling them what to do, but it wasnt me playing.

Why would the account be named 'maxs account' then? Was 'maxs parents account' too long?

Who are you trying to fool exactly?

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:04 am**

This war is totally intense; on one side we have a man who is collecting his points from ppl who still do not know how to play - and on the other side we have two guys who are accused of tag-teaming their games (topic "And so the cheating continues"). Biting my nails to see how this war will finish...

PS. And I kinda thought that this game was about having fun & adrenaline, not the highest rank. Silly me. :ugeek:

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:24 am**

This is nothing new. Max was blocked from about 30 accounts for account sitting abuse. He then would get KingOfGods to make a post about me and scott, which was cleared.. sooo now he is trying again. Very lame. Anyhow lets see what comes out of this one. Max and a multi? hmm

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:11 am**

Bruceswar wrote:This is nothing new. Max was blocked from about 30 accounts for account sitting abuse. He then would get KingOfGods to make a post about me and scott, which was cleared.. sooo now he is trying again. Very lame. Anyhow lets see what comes out of this one. Max and a multi? hmm

Bruceswar wrote:Must we go thru this every 2 weeks... Sigh... Lock this already?

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:59 am**

This does seem very odd Max?!

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:11 pm**

It's funny how everyone seems to think mods are idiots and have to point out every obvious detail there is, as though they can't do their job thoroughly and won't notice everything that was said in this thread.

Life is funny

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:45 pm**

Kotaro wrote:It's funny how everyone seems to think mods are idiots and have to point out every obvious detail there is, as though they can't do their job thoroughly and won't notice everything that was said in this thread.

Life is funny

Lack forbid that the people actually try to save the mods some time, not to mention to actually present a case instead of just manhandling the keyboard like you just did.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:01 pm**

maxatstuy wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=66071&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&p=1632900&view=show#p1632900

king achilles wrote:Too clean. Cleared.

it was tried and cleared. when I was a noob, I was suspected of being multis with both my brother and maxs account. I explained each account in an E-ticket and I was cleared. You can try me for being a multi all you want Scott, it does change the outcome and the fact that you are a cheater

you still are a noob

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:03 pm**

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
maxatstuy wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=66071&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&p=1632900&view=show#p1632900

king achilles wrote:Too clean. Cleared.

it was tried and cleared. when I was a noob, I was suspected of being multis with both my brother and maxs account. I explained each account in an E-ticket and I was cleared. You can try me for being a multi all you want Scott, it does change the outcome and the fact that you are a cheater

you still are a noob

Read my sig :roll:

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:40 pm**

Prankcall wrote:This does seem very odd Max?!

agreed, what do the mods say? and what does max say?

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:41 pm**

I'd venture a guess and it's only my opinion but I'm sure there are many many players that would agree with me. CC would definitely be a better place without Maxatstuy. From problems with blocks, cheats and multi's not to mention Live Chat along with abuse in every single one of Game chat that I play. Managed to destroy the site and countless player's reputations- they can no longer fully enjoy what the site has to offer because of the multitude of blocks placed on them due to Max abusing their trust when account sitting for them.

Ban this guy- lift the blocks and the site will become enjoyable once again.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:09 pm**

Scott-Land wrote:I'd venture a guess and it's only my opinion but I'm sure there are many many players that would agree with me. CC would definitely be a better place without Maxatstuy. From problems with blocks, cheats and multi's not to mention Live Chat along with abuse in every single one of Game chat that I play. Managed to destroy the site and countless player's reputations- they can no longer fully enjoy what the site has to offer because of the multitude of blocks placed on them due to Max abusing their trust when account sitting for them.

Ban this guy- lift the blocks and the site will become enjoyable once again.

Here is a simple solution to the majority of your grievances with me, if you want me to stop calling you a cheat, stop cheating. It is really that simple. If you played honestly and reached 5.5k I never would have criticized, but you didnt. You chose to cheat and to have Bruce gift you 3700 points. You are an abusive player who tries to cover up his inability to play without bruce being there to gift you games by blaming it on dice and your internet connection. Complaining about demonfork winning 3-1 and 4-2 is hysterical considering how amazing your dice are in every game you are in where bruce isnt there to gift it to you. You created a thread about me being a multi because you were trying to divert attention off of your cheating, and go around to my threads flaming me when they are in general discussion. If anybody, you are the one making this site not enjoyable and your inability to follow the rules should be grounds enough for a ban. The only people who I tell off are those who support your cheating and their supporting you only coaxes you into cheating more; but still, continue spewing crap that you think makes you look any less guilty. Why dont you just admit what you did and take the consquences of your actions instead of slandering the names of people who acknowledge you as being the cheat you really are

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:25 pm**

Scott-Land wrote:I'd venture a guess and it's only my opinion but I'm sure there are many many players that would agree with me. CC would definitely be a better place without Maxatstuy. From problems with blocks, cheats and multi's not to mention Live Chat along with abuse in every single one of Game chat that I play. Managed to destroy the site and countless player's reputations- they can no longer fully enjoy what the site has to offer because of the multitude of blocks placed on them due to Max abusing their trust when account sitting for them.

Ban this guy- lift the blocks and the site will become enjoyable once again.

Max is one of my favorite players on the site, I find CC much more enjoyable because of Max. He if helpful and friendly, his ingenuity and intelligence are seldom found in a person his age.

Scott on the other hand is a different story, he is highly abusive and cries like a baby every single time he loses, he bullies his way to wins. Like I said before the 3700 points that he was gifted to from Bruce SPEAKS FOR ITS SELF and should be grounds enough for a permanent ban from CC!

Scott is human garbage, I would not cross the street to piss on his head if it was on fire!

Ban Scott and make CC enjoyable again!

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:28 pm**

maxatstuy wrote: You created a thread about me being a multi because you were trying to divert attention off of your cheating...

If the accusation were baseless this might be true, however, there are some facts that are open to interpretation so it comes off hypocritical. You have yet to address the allegation that you have operated multiple accounts.

For the record, I have played exactly zero (0) games with Scott and have never communicated with him. I just happened to have the time to do further research into his allegation after he posted it

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:45 pm**

PepperJack wrote:
maxatstuy wrote: You created a thread about me being a multi because you were trying to divert attention off of your cheating...

If the accusation were baseless this might be true, however, there are some facts that are open to interpretation so it comes off hypocritical. You have yet to address the allegation that you have operated multiple accounts.

For the record, I have played exactly zero (0) games with Scott and have never communicated with him. I just happened to have the time to do further research into his allegation after he posted it

Questioning the circumstance for maxs account is understandable and if you had not read the other thread where the accusation was brought up, or received an email about the account prior, there is no reason for you to expect the account is legitimate. However, with that said, the reason why I have not addressed the accusation is because I was cleared of maxs account twice and I already addressed it in another thread for which I provided a link already:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=66071&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&p=1632900&view=show#p1632900

I sent in an E-ticket a few months back when I was accused of being multis with my brother, maxs account, assassin and a few others (as a result of my account being hijacked and me losing 16 consecutive games to assassin07 for which his score was reset and premium stripped) and after reviewing everything I stated, they reinstated both the accounts of my brother and myself, and moved maxs account to guest since it was not being used, and probably to eliminate the possibility of me using it as a multi.

This thread was created in retaliation for the thread I made on Scott and I prefer to address his cheating which is the basis for this thread as opposed to shifting my attention to an accusation which I was already cleared of.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:04 pm**

The thread that you linked to (twice) does not pertain to maxs account. I took the time to sift through your post history and can find nothing pertinent to maxs account. Claiming that you were cleared does not qualify as public record of said clearing and I will have to remain skeptical that a clearing ever occurred until proof is provided.

With that said, do you have a reponse for the sections of chat I previously posted?

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:34 pm**

PepperJack wrote:A couple of games of maxs account's are not indicative that Maxatstuy's parents were playing the account at all.

Game 2142657
2008-04-01 21:54:48 - zlotan93: how old are you?
2008-04-01 21:55:15 - maxs account: I am in high school...a sophmore
A sophomore is 15 or 16 if I remember correctly, guess Max's mom was pregnant with him around the age of 1. Or she started the adoption paperwork while in the womb herself if you prefer a less pedophilic impossibility.

Game 2097381
2008-03-25 21:12:55 - maxs account: sorry for delays, I am watching a game with Paddy and Warsteiner
Isn't Paddy the Cat Maxatstuy's online buddy? Would either of his parent's care?

The first quote is pretty damning in my opinion. Even if maxs account has been abandoned there should be a premium strip if the JCKing bust is the baseline.

In those games, while looking at the position which my parents were in, I was logged onto the account at the same time watching on another computer. As I previously posted, I was giving my parents instructions and telling them what to do (or at least general ideas) so that they could learn to play and get a better feel for the game. However, since they were waiting for me to give them advice, they didnt move until I was looking at that game so that they didnt screw it up. As a result, I would chat occasionally, (such as in the second case where I apologized for the delay as it was my fault that everyone was waiting.) My parents were more concerned with playing the game and learning how it worked while I enjoyed talking to the opponents at the same time and didnt bother to change accounts because I didnt see why it mattered. At the point where I got my parents to give Conquer Club a try, I was around corporal so even giving my parents instructions, it didnt give them much of an advantage except a general knowledge of the game which most new recruits dont have. It was still them playing, I was just a talking spectator and there was nothing I did which, to the best of my knowledge, was against the rules.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:03 pm**

this is the part in the other thread which I is pertaining to this one:

Scott-Land wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Not sure about the others, but he's played on this one-- maxs account.

that player is pretty good for being new..... won 15 of his first 20 games.

Problem is- he railed one of my games a;, well he rails all my games. but had said something in chat and I can't find the game. I could' had sword Poo and Rashid were in the game as well. Anyhow, he had made an excuse or something to that affect that he 'was account sitting' or 'his four games were full'. I can't remember exactly what was said nor can I find the blessed game-- it was so long ago.

maxatstuy wrote:The story behind maxs account was already discussed with the mods a long time ago when they accused me of being a multi with my brother- elistuy, maxs account, assassin07, dominic something (who incidentally went into my account and dumped my points into assassins) and some people who I never heard of before. maxs account however was used in order to try to get my parents to learn how to play. Obviously I was telling them what to do, but it wasnt me playing. It never ever worked out though and neither of my parents liked the game, but that is why it has such a high win rate.

oh, and the last I checked, maxs account was in the guest usergroup

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