Conquer Club

Be sure before you accuse someone!

Accused:

xxtig12683xx
ktess920


The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 3284968


Comments:
They have openly admitted to being brothers, although this alone is not enough to evidence convince that they are guilty of secret alliance it should make every one unease to play brothers in a standard freestyle (as every one tends to let friends or family member win rather then other players)

When I learned that they were brothers I was unease but still I played on. what gave them away was in round 11 I set up to kill ktess920, and xxtig12683xx was blocking me with a few troops in middle east, I asked him to move and he instead deployed more troops on middle east to block me from killing his brother. After his brother (ktess) auto attacked me with his remaining troops thus weakening me and weakening him self so that xxtig could kill his brother and get his cards instead of me or silent sailor.

The bottom line is they blocked for each other and gave away cards to each other when it was apparent that one of them was going to be eliminated. this is a typical secret diplomacy tactic for one player to suicide into the others and let his friend or in this case his brother eliminate him and take his cards, giving the "cheater" a obvious advantage over every one.

This is not their first game that they have played together, they are routinely playing doubles and standard games with each other (22 games in total) in my opinion they should at least be blocked from playing each other since they are family members and the urge to help each other is so obvious even if they don't openly help each other I'm sure that they would much rather having one of them win then both of them lose which is what happened in this game. The only reason why they lost is because i had enough troops to weaken both of them thus giving the 4th player (silent sailor) the advantage over them.

Game: 3284968
2008-09-17 17:56:07 - krusher: how do you know his name?
2008-09-17 17:56:20 - xxtig12683xx: hes my brother
2008-09-17 17:56:44 - krusher: thats nice... and when were you gona tell us this?
2008-09-17 17:56:59 - xxtig12683xx: we dont have to tell you were brothers
2008-09-17 17:57:35 - ktess920: yeah f*ck that bullshit

Yep, they're attitude alone shows them to be immature little punks...

Sorry you had to lose to a couple of assholes.

I know xxtig12683xx would cheat, but I didn't know this ktess920 guy would get in on the action as well. Oh well, they'll be busted soon enough. I call for a permaban for both of them including taking xxtig12683xx's premium.

and here we go...


krusher you said move your troops in mid east, obv. implying you were going kill my brother, only i out played you dropped a set and kicked your stacks ass, and killed him. Only problem was that blue also had a set. gg to him. no cheating occoured, and im not replying to any noobs that post in this thread.


cheers.


-tig

krusher wrote:Be sure before you accuse someone!

Accused:

xxtig12683xx
ktess920


The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 3284968


Comments:
They have openly admitted to being brothers, although this alone is not enough to evidence convince that they are guilty of secret alliance it should make every one unease to play brothers in a standard freestyle (as every one tends to let friends or family member win rather then other players)

When I learned that they were brothers I was unease but still I played on. what gave them away was in round 11 I set up to kill ktess920, and xxtig12683xx was blocking me with a few troops in middle east, I asked him to move and he instead deployed more troops on middle east to block me from killing his brother. After his brother (ktess) auto attacked me with his remaining troops thus weakening me and weakening him self so that xxtig could kill his brother and get his cards instead of me or silent sailor.

The bottom line is they blocked for each other and gave away cards to each other when it was apparent that one of them was going to be eliminated. this is a typical secret diplomacy tactic for one player to suicide into the others and let his friend or in this case his brother eliminate him and take his cards, giving the "cheater" a obvious advantage over every one.

This is not their first game that they have played together, they are routinely playing doubles and standard games with each other (22 games in total) in my opinion they should at least be blocked from playing each other since they are family members and the urge to help each other is so obvious even if they don't openly help each other I'm sure that they would much rather having one of them win then both of them lose which is what happened in this game. The only reason why they lost is because i had enough troops to weaken both of them thus giving the 4th player (silent sailor) the advantage over them.

Game: 3284968
2008-09-17 17:56:07 - krusher: how do you know his name?
2008-09-17 17:56:20 - xxtig12683xx: hes my brother
2008-09-17 17:56:44 - krusher: thats nice... and when were you gona tell us this?
2008-09-17 17:56:59 - xxtig12683xx: we dont have to tell you were brothers
2008-09-17 17:57:35 - ktess920: yeah f*ck that bullshit

now that i actually get my accusation straight, i wanna lay what really happened on the line.

you dropped the majority of your troops on s. europe, 37(total) if i remember correct, and the rest in NA, i let you kill green in NA, as when you told me to move mid east it was evident what you were doing(my brother made a rookie fs mistake of playing his turn showing he had 2 pair) i then cashed my 3 card set which you were not expecting and dropped all on mid east(which game me 57), i then killed green in asia...as for the first bold statement, he never attacked you, and didnt have the troops to attack you(so that's a blatant lie), previous rounds you both attacked each other he killed 7 you killed 11 stack(albeit him first)

I hit your 37 in south europe with my 18 i had in north europe(so you would not have the troops to chase) and proceeded to kill my brother in afgh(14 men or 15, i forget) and aussie(8 in siam and 1s), its not my fault your slow and got outplayed. i only lost because blue waited and also had a 3 card set cashed and killed me.

as far as routinely, we have not played a non-team game since june and only 5/22 are non team or non 1/1 games

WRONG, id much rather whoop his pathetic ass than cheat to win.

thats the best part of the post, you were so pissed you wasted your remaining troops to kill me as much as you could, only problem was there was NO, lemme repeat that NO chance you could kill me....blue(ss) watched the whole thing go down and sorry for me he cashed a 3 card set for 40...he needed to kill like 20 troops after your suicide attack however he would have killed me anyways.


cheers.


-tig

Just for the record, I checked if they are multis and they are not. For a secret diplomacy, I can only note this report for the meantime. Since they have been openly exposed in this report as being brothers, people can judge for themselves if they are having a secret alliance in any of their current games they are in together. Blocking them based on this game alone and for being brothers is not enough. We need more games with strong evidence of suspicious moves other than this.

king achilles wrote:Just for the record, I checked if they are multis and they are not. For a secret diplomacy, I can only note this report for the meantime. Since they have been openly exposed in this report as being brothers, people can judge for themselves if they are having a secret alliance in any of their current games they are in together. Blocking them based on this game alone and for being brothers is not enough. We need more games with strong evidence of suspicious moves other than this.

nothing suspicious even took place...i out played that poor sap krusher and he was pissed


thanks though, appreciate the swift response

whump and narki thanks for the comments, your opinions really carried water.


-tig

i just have one question, why should anyone take anything krusher has to say seriously anyways? Its been proved that hes a joke, end of story.

xxtig12683xx wrote:

king achilles wrote:Just for the record, I checked if they are multis and they are not. For a secret diplomacy, I can only note this report for the meantime. Since they have been openly exposed in this report as being brothers, people can judge for themselves if they are having a secret alliance in any of their current games they are in together. Blocking them based on this game alone and for being brothers is not enough. We need more games with strong evidence of suspicious moves other than this.

nothing suspicious even took place...i out played that poor sap krusher and he was pissed


thanks though, appreciate the swift response

whump and narki thanks for the comments, your opinions really carried water.


-tig

He didn't clear you... and instead of bashing people why don't you just reply with your "side" of the story instead of trying to put down the people accusing you with immature name calling like "sap"..... the abscence of evidence is not the same as the evidence of abscence, its just a matter of time before more people realize what you are doign and come forward. as for me I have a life and don't have time to go look up your other games so I will only give testemonial to the game we played together but I'm sure there are more shady games that you are involved in with your brother, its only a matter of time buddy, so make your rude jokes while you can but we both know your cheating habits iwill catch up to you one of these days.

krusher wrote:

xxtig12683xx wrote:

king achilles wrote:Just for the record, I checked if they are multis and they are not. For a secret diplomacy, I can only note this report for the meantime. Since they have been openly exposed in this report as being brothers, people can judge for themselves if they are having a secret alliance in any of their current games they are in together. Blocking them based on this game alone and for being brothers is not enough. We need more games with strong evidence of suspicious moves other than this.

nothing suspicious even took place...i out played that poor sap krusher and he was pissed


thanks though, appreciate the swift response

whump and narki thanks for the comments, your opinions really carried water.


-tig

He didn't clear you... and instead of bashing people why don't you just reply with your "side" of the story instead of trying to put down the people accusing you with immature name calling like "sap"..... the abscence of evidence is not the same as the evidence of abscence, its just a matter of time before more people realize what you are doign and come forward. as for me I have a life and don't have time to go look up your other games so I will only give testemonial to the game we played together but I'm sure there are more shady games that you are involved in with your brother, its only a matter of time buddy, so make your rude jokes while you can but we both know your cheating habits iwill catch up to you one of these days.

hmm you are kinda thick arn't you, my second post in this lame excuse of a thread explains how the whole "cheating" thing went down...

thanks though krush, i always enjoy getting accused, as i know ill be found innocent....as i know i dont need to cheat to win


-tig

Tess, you dirty rotten cheat they got you this time MUHAHAhaha!!!! j/k, anyone who knows tess knows he wants to win I have never seen him do anything cheap to do so and as his rank proves he doesn't win all the time...Tess is scrappy and wouldn't sacrifice a game to his own dieing mother...I do hope he starts sacrificing them to me because I'm sick of the bastard stealing my points...I'd be the freaking conquerer if it weren't for dirty bastards like Tess...krusher, I've not known you as a gripper and am certain that it may have felt as if the brothers were dumping on you but I know tess wouldn't throw a game so his brother could win...I would believe him making a secret alliance to beat his brother but not the other way around...Tess, even though I doubt you cheating I still think your an ugly bastard...

hiddendragon wrote:Tess, you dirty rotten cheat they got you this time MUHAHAhaha!!!! j/k, anyone who knows tess knows he wants to win I have never seen him do anything cheap to do so and as his rank proves he doesn't win all the time...Tess is scrappy and wouldn't sacrifice a game to his own dieing mother...I do hope he starts sacrificing them to me because I'm sick of the bastard stealing my points...I'd be the freaking conquerer if it weren't for dirty bastards like Tess...krusher, I've not known you as a gripper and am certain that it may have felt as if the brothers were dumping on you but I know tess wouldn't throw a game so his brother could win...I would believe him making a secret alliance to beat his brother but not the other way around...Tess, even though I doubt you cheating I still think your an ugly bastard...

i hate my brother having my nickname


-tig

xxxtigxxx just sent me a PM saying he was sure he wouldn't be caught.

wrestler1ump wrote:xxxtigxxx just sent me a PM saying he was sure he wouldn't be caught.

because i know im innocent....lol

"how do you know i would cheat fuckstain? just because i flame you left and right does not mean im a cheat.


but its ok, im positive ill be cleared.


-tig"

that is the exact pm

Ban ban ban! Burn the witches! Conspiracy! How DARE they be related?