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heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 pm
by psb
Accused:The accused are suspected of:- Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Game number(s):Comments: dear administrator:
I found very strange events in my last game. These events lead me to think that a couple of players are cheating, by having a secret alliance, and I would like to report it.
1. A player named heatz had chance to prevent another player, named dennis9572, to gain 5 extra armies for europe and he did not.
2. Next deniss9572 changes cards and gets 15 armies and he eliminates me. With the cards he won, he was abble to obtain 20 more armies and whith these eliminate heatz and he did not.
3. Often that heatz played, dennis9572 played one hour lather.
Thanks sincerely
psb
Re: heatz and dennis9572
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:42 pm
by icicletasty69
doesn't look like much to me...
Re: heatz and dennis9572
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:35 pm
by danodukebb
what a stupid noob
![d'oh! #-o](./images/smilies/eusa_doh.gif)
Re: heatz and dennis9572
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:56 pm
by cisco2001
I'm afraid that there is no evidence of cheating in any form. Your biggest complaint is that he eliminated you and took your cards instead of breaking Heatz's bonus. This is just very basic strategy. The smartest move in an escalating game is to eliminate players AND get their cards; because you can immediately get more armies. At that point in the game, you were the biggest target because you were the weakest target. Remember, it's not very smart to waste a lot of armies trying to break a player's bonus. All that happens is that you weaken both players and you leave yourself open to being eliminated.
In short, Dennis had to choose between losing a bunch of armies by breaking Heatz's bonus or eliminating you and getting a bunch of armies.
Which one would you have chosen?
I can see that you are relatively new to the game and don't have a lot of experience yet. However, cheating is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly. In this particular case, both players played fairly and with sound strategy. I'm sure that an apology would be appreciated and help smooth over any bad feelings.
Re: heatz and dennis9572
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:54 pm
by psb
Dear webmaster:
I feel I owe you an apology, because I may have rushed in to denunciating a series of events that seem suspicious to me. I understand that my exipirience in the game is not that vast to judge the behavior of my fellow opponents. For that reason I went to you right away so a real authority in the game could judge this situation properly.
Sincerely
Psb
Re: heatz and dennis9572
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:23 am
by delboy01
psb wrote:Dear webmaster:
I feel I owe you an apology, because I may have rushed in to denunciating a series of events that seem suspicious to me. I understand that my exipirience in the game is not that vast to judge the behavior of my fellow opponents. For that reason I went to you right away so a real authority in the game could judge this situation properly.
Sincerely
Psb
That's an excellent response. I hope you have pm'ed the players involved as well.
In future. These is a facility call game finder. Type two players names into it and it will list every game played by the two. This is a very usefull tool in searching for suspicious activity.
enjoy the site.
Re: heatz and dennis9572
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:02 am
by Fireside Poet
Suspects:
* heatz
*dennis9572
Verdict: Busted for multiple accounts. heatz busted with billy bacon, scooby doo & james the pup. dennis9572 busted with umbarstronghetz & weepin15
Re: heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:05 am
by delboy01
wow, just goes to show what can happen!!!!
Heatz still has premium by the way.
Re: heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:09 am
by cisco2001
Amazing. That was quite a bust. I didn't see any of the signs.
Re: heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:45 am
by Optimus Prime
delboy01 wrote:wow, just goes to show what can happen!!!!
Heatz still has premium by the way.
That's because he was actually busted several days before this thread was created for other reasons. He then purchased the premium in order to keep the one account.
Re: heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:45 am
by Curmudgeonx
Good eye OP
Shame on the rest of you for rushing to judgment . . .
And you should apologize to Psb for condemning him before the Multi-Hunters could do their jobs
Re: heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:25 pm
by poptartpsycho18
So is he going to be allowed to stick around? Because he is in a tournament of mine, in the games I'm in! and I got PMs from someone who is apparently sitting his account, and playing for him. It a no elimination tournament so should I let him stay or get a replacement since it's the beginning of the tournament?
Re: heatz and dennis9572 [Busted +5]
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Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:21 pm
by delboy01
Curmudgeonx wrote:Good eye OP
Shame on the rest of you for rushing to judgment . . .
And you should apologize to Psb for condemning him before the Multi-Hunters could do their jobs
The thread stated secret diplomacy. The bust was for multi accounts. The people that made a comment did so on the basis of secret diplomacy.
I don't think anyone condemed him just posted that there did not seem to be any evidence of secret diplomacy,