Conquer Club

Accused:

• wicked

The accused are suspected of:

• Other: <Abusing moderator status>

Game number(s):

• Game 2756305
• Game 2752093
• Game 2758601
• Game 2761418
• Game 2766787
• Game 2766788
• Game 2766827
• Game 2822449
• Game 2826340

Comments:
Klobber does not want wicked joining his games, but because she is a moderator he cannot foe her. The reason players cannot put moderators on foe is so that they cannot ignore their forum posts. It was not created so that moderators could jump into a game where they are not wanted. wicked even stated in a discussion that if someone doesn't want to play with her, just PM her and she will drop out of the game. Klobber stated in one of the first games listed above in game chat that he would foe her if he could.

I know that wicked is a moderator, and that klobber is disliked amongst some for his superior skill, but that does not give a mod the priviledge to absue the position. This is clear cut abuse and I think next time she does it a warning should be given, followed by a demotion to non-moderator status.

Thanks the laugh whump. I needed that.

Just in case someone believes any of this, Klobber never asked for me not to join his games. I see nothing in the game chats either.

i was in some of those games with wicked and KLOBBER and he said nothing about not wanting her to join his games..

HAHA

You fail


I actually got reported for this post....

i was also in most of those games and saw nothing like that... he accused us all of being cheaters within the first round though

Wow dude, amazing.

I am officially giving Wicked a warning for this. Next time she will receive a banning of some sort yet to be determined.

thanks

Ya gonna spank me JR?

wicked wrote:Ya gonna spank me JR?

sure, but your still getting punished

wicked wrote::lol: Thanks the laugh whump. I needed that.

Just in case someone believes any of this, Klobber never asked for me not to join his games. I see nothing in the game chats either.

judging by past posts, Klobber is quite aware of how to use the forum. I'm not sure why anyone would need to speak for him. Perhaps he might weigh in here ?

The constant posting of non-problem "cheating and abuse" by some members could be construed as abuse and lead to a ban, I'd think.

wrestler1ump wrote:Accused:

• wicked

The accused are suspected of:

• Other: <Abusing moderator status>

Game number(s):

• Game 2756305
• Game 2752093
• Game 2758601
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• Game 2761418
• Game 2766787
• Game 2766788
• Game 2766827
• Game 2822449
• Game 2826340

Comments:
Klobber does not want wicked joining his games, but because she is a moderator he cannot foe her. The reason players cannot put moderators on foe is so that they cannot ignore their forum posts. It was not created so that moderators could jump into a game where they are not wanted. wicked even stated in a discussion that if someone doesn't want to play with her, just PM her and she will drop out of the game. Klobber stated in one of the first games listed above in game chat that he would foe her if he could.

I know that wicked is a moderator, and that klobber is disliked amongst some for his superior skill, but that does not give a mod the priviledge to absue the position. This is clear cut abuse and I think next time she does it a warning should be given, followed by a demotion to non-moderator status.

Quoted from Wrestlerlump: "and that klobber is disliked amongst some for his superior skill"

Okay Igor, put the torch away and make sure that your master's coffin is covered in dirt before the sun comes up.

When you're done with that; lure some newbies into his lair so can suck some easy points out of them.....

That's one of the craziest things I've heard in a long time....lol

wrestler1ump wrote:I know that [...] and that klobber is disliked amongst some for his superior skill

What a beautiful way to start the morning. A cup of coffee, pulling a few moves, then reading this. My God... I'm speechless.

wrestler you have done it again. When will you simply stop being a dip, and trying to get into everyones business?
I really believe that you are in severe need of another hobby. Perhaps joining a radical movement of some kind, would be more suited to your obvious need for attention.

I doubt a kid trapped in a well for 14 years would need as much attention as this kid.

But more importantly...and the point of my post, in true wrestler style:

" I see no evidence of cheating or abuse of powers. Perhaps the author should spend more time interacting in a positive way, instead of trolling, and attempts to camoflage trolling with doublespeak, foolishness and ridiculous statements. To be treated as an adult, one should act as an adult."

You can add game 2814178 to this list.

Frankly, I do not know enough about the ins and outs of Conquer Club to be able to identify a cheat. Several of my teammates were convinced wicked and her team mates were cheating, that possibly they were the same person, and lodged another complaint elsewhere.

I want to put my two cents in to question Conquer Club management's wisdom in giving people such as wicked admin status.

Our game was a clear mismatch. A group of people ranked captain and higher, one of which was wicked, joined a game four others of us ranked sergeant and lower had started, and proceded to use tactics they had honed over the course of many months mastering their Conquer Club skills (all of which will no doubt carry them far in life).

In chess we call this practice where a master plays a "D" category player for the few rating points he can garner and which he has virtually no chance of losing "bunny thumping". It's a practice that no peer master respects, not only because it is unsportsmanlike, but because it provides such a negative experience for the "bunny" that it turns people (which means revenue) away from chess. Much of a master's income depends on the prize money contributed by such players who are also a master's fans, and to needlessly discourage people from playing is bad sport and just pure economic folly.

Here at Conquer Club I have the feeling that precisely that type of sporting behavior and economic bad thinking is not only implicitly encouraged (one way is by giving a bunny thumper like wicked admin status), it's institutionalized through poorly thought out policies. Through "Bunny thumping" wicked actually gains the respect of her peers, and they all enjoy ganging up in the hunt for bunnies to thump. Conquer Club definitely sends the message they endorse such behavior when they make one of these (namely wicked) an admin. This makes it impossible for regular players to put her on our foe list and escape her. Believe me, many, many of us would very much like to do this. So, thanks a lot, Conquer Club!

One way of overcoming this problem is to give someone of say more than a 400 or 500 points ratings difference zero rating points for a victory, but they lose 100 or 200 if they were to lose the game. To players of wicked's petty mentality, life is all about the Conquer Club rating points. No points, then why bother, they would no doubt figure. Had such a policy been in effect here at Conquer Club I really think wicked and her ilk would not have bothered giving the four of us on my team the very negative experience we took away from that game.

To discourage players of >400 ratings point differences from playing one another would be a good thing in general, I think. The type of behavior Conquer Club rewards by giving rating points to is not a way of playing the game I have any interest in. It rewards people who put the time in to closely observe their games 24 hours a day, and who wait for their opponents to begin their turn (even in a 24-hour game) first so that everything comes down to mouse control and finger exercises regarding who can refresh the quickest. No real strategy or tactical vision is required for such play, and I don't want to play against players who value that mode of play and consider themselves geniuses for figuring it out. Separating us by rating points difference is a great idea!

General Quigley

General Quigley wrote:You can add game 2814178 to this list.

Frankly, I do not know enough about the ins and outs of Conquer Club to be able to identify a cheat. Several of my teammates were convinced wicked and her team mates were cheating, that possibly they were the same person, and lodged another complaint elsewhere.

I want to put my two cents in to question Conquer Club management's wisdom in giving people such as wicked admin status.

Our game was a clear mismatch. A group of people ranked captain and higher, one of which was wicked, joined a game four others of us ranked sergeant and lower had started, and proceded to use tactics they had honed over the course of many months mastering their Conquer Club skills (all of which will no doubt carry them far in life).

In chess we call this practice where a master plays a "D" category player for the few rating points he can garner and which he has virtually no chance of losing "bunny thumping". It's a practice that no peer master respects, not only because it is unsportsmanlike, but because it provides such a negative experience for the "bunny" that it turns people (which means revenue) away from chess. Much of a master's income depends on the prize money contributed by such players who are also a master's fans, and to needlessly discourage people from playing is bad sport and just pure economic folly.

Here at Conquer Club I have the feeling that precisely that type of sporting behavior and economic bad thinking is not only implicitly encouraged (one way is by giving a bunny thumper like wicked admin status), it's institutionalized through poorly thought out policies. Through "Bunny thumping" wicked actually gains the respect of her peers, and they all enjoy ganging up in the hunt for bunnies to thump. Conquer Club definitely sends the message they endorse such behavior when they make one of these (namely wicked) an admin. This makes it impossible for regular players to put her on our foe list and escape her. Believe me, many, many of us would very much like to do this. So, thanks a lot, Conquer Club!

One way of overcoming this problem is to give someone of say more than a 400 or 500 points ratings difference zero rating points for a victory, but they lose 100 or 200 if they were to lose the game. To players of wicked's petty mentality, life is all about the Conquer Club rating points. No points, then why bother, they would no doubt figure. Had such a policy been in effect here at Conquer Club I really think wicked and her ilk would not have bothered giving the four of us on my team the very negative experience we took away from that game.

To discourage players of >400 ratings point differences from playing one another would be a good thing in general, I think. The type of behavior Conquer Club rewards by giving rating points to is not a way of playing the game I have any interest in. It rewards people who put the time in to closely observe their games 24 hours a day, and who wait for their opponents to begin their turn (even in a 24-hour game) first so that everything comes down to mouse control and finger exercises regarding who can refresh the quickest. No real strategy or tactical vision is required for such play, and I don't want to play against players who value that mode of play and consider themselves geniuses for figuring it out. Separating us by rating points difference is a great idea!

General Quigley

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

great idea general quigley... tell that to the 10000 posts complaining that they cant get the higher ranked players to join their games

most high ranked players get bashed for only playing people of their rank, and youre complaining they do play lower ranks

further..im not sure there are many players who care less about their rank then wicked

you have some valid points, but you arent seeing the whole picture..you think you are, but you arent.

Anyone can get points in here if they want them... I went from 1250 to 2100 in three days, and I didnt use any special tricks. Anyone can do that, regardless of dice, with any kind of decent strategy, and better, a few lower ranked friends that will work together to take down the massive points available in triples games out there... some of the teams have a three to one point win ratio, with a 50% win possibility. Any team can take out another team... it just takes teamwork.

And in escalating singles, any single player can rise to the top in 100-200 games. It just takes timing, patience and skill.

Again some of your points are valid, but your main point is completely backwards. Most low ranks lose their points to people of their own rank. The sheer statistics of games out there show this.

This reminds me of xtratabasco and all those out there who foe list ppl for playing freestyle team games at the same time

EDIT: ofc xtra got banned(for something different), but where are the rest of u out there

Hey GC, wrong thread mate, you want this one: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=56161
PM lancehoch and see if he'll re-open it since he was the one to lock it, so that this discussion can continue in there.

p.s... I like bunnies.

lemme get this straight...wickys being accused because she was able to join a game? Oh God, LOCK HER UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY!

I see Wicked and her coterie are flaming me for what I said here. That's all well and good. The substance of what I said remains and I predict will remain unaddressed.

When I first joined this site I was pretty excited about the concept and played a lot of games, recommended it to family and friends. Some joined and have told others, and they joined. I'm sort of embarrassed by that now. I wish I knew then what I knew now (that cliques or gangs have formed and are manipulating the system for their benefit). The cheating charge is under investigation. I believe wicked was clever enough to stay within the lines of the guidelines and will be exonerated. She has said she is certain her admin friends will exonerate her.

It doesn't change the fact that her play was unsportsmanlike, at minimum, and unethical, whether the letter of the cheating law was broken or not. That a moderator could abuse her position like this should be a matter of concern to Conquer Club management. Once people figure out this whole thing is rigged, membership and recommendations will start declining. I'm making noise about it here. Most others will just go silently. I'm seeing the trend already with the first people I recommended this site to, and imagine it's a common occurrence with those not inclined to join the gangs and cliques of ratings-manipulating, foul-mouthed adolescents that tend to form here.

General Quigley wrote:I see Wicked and her coterie are flaming me for what I said here. That's all well and good. The substance of what I said remains and I predict will remain unaddressed.

When I first joined this site I was pretty excited about the concept and played a lot of games, recommended it to family and friends. Some joined and have told others, and they joined. I'm sort of embarrassed by that now. I wish I knew then what I knew now (that cliques or gangs have formed and are manipulating the system for their benefit). The cheating charge is under investigation. I believe wicked was clever enough to stay within the lines of the guidelines and will be exonerated. She has said she is certain her admin friends will exonerate her.

It doesn't change the fact that her play was unsportsmanlike, at minimum, and unethical, whether the letter of the cheating law was broken or not. That a moderator could abuse her position like this should be a matter of concern to Conquer Club management. Once people figure out this whole thing is rigged, membership and recommendations will start declining. I'm making noise about it here. Most others will just go silently. I'm seeing the trend already with the first people I recommended this site to, and imagine it's a common occurrence with those not inclined to join the gangs and cliques of ratings-manipulating, foul-mouthed adolescents that tend to form here.

You are articulate, but misguided, and borderline paranoid. This game (not linked to anything by Hasbro) is unlike chess in that there is a randomness factor that chess does not have. Cooks have beaten officers, and this probably occurs on a daily basis.

My suggestion is that if the forums are going to ruffle your feathers so significantly, then perhaps you enjoy the parts of the site that you can (playing games) and leave the forums to the "manipulating, foul-mouthed adolescents". Many players never participate in the forums. Perhaps the thickness of your skin may require a review of what the same subset of posters may mean to your life.

Your

gcwca_4_life wrote:i was in some of those games with wicked and KLOBBER and he said nothing about not wanting her to join his games..

She deleted the game log chat! Duh! I mean...she's a freakin' MOD...

Can we burn her at the steak and enjoy the BBQ?

clap...clap...clap

General Quigley wrote:I see Wicked and her coterie are flaming me for what I said here. That's all well and good. The substance of what I said remains and I predict will remain unaddressed.

When I first joined this site I was pretty excited about the concept and played a lot of games, recommended it to family and friends. Some joined and have told others, and they joined. I'm sort of embarrassed by that now. I wish I knew then what I knew now (that cliques or gangs have formed and are manipulating the system for their benefit). The cheating charge is under investigation. I believe wicked was clever enough to stay within the lines of the guidelines and will be exonerated. She has said she is certain her admin friends will exonerate her.

It doesn't change the fact that her play was unsportsmanlike, at minimum, and unethical, whether the letter of the cheating law was broken or not. That a moderator could abuse her position like this should be a matter of concern to Conquer Club management. Once people figure out this whole thing is rigged, membership and recommendations will start declining. I'm making noise about it here. Most others will just go silently. I'm seeing the trend already with the first people I recommended this site to, and imagine it's a common occurrence with those not inclined to join the gangs and cliques of ratings-manipulating, foul-mouthed adolescents that tend to form here.

i honestly cant grasp what your trying to say because of so much falcities... if wicked is a cheater in the above games, then i must be do because i was in most of them
and blemishes on my record are not wished
what happened above is (since apparently you dont know the story) klobber (the player wrestler is talking about) joins games to play brand new players and noone else so he can demolish them for easy points, he is the bad guy in this, wicked and others joined some of his games to try and break him of this trend, so as far as i am seeing, based on what your saying, with the anti-high ranks play low ranks aditude, wicked is the hero of this story?