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omegateam & fuzzyhead multis [busted]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:27 pm
by leonidas1
Accused:


The accused are suspected of:


Comments:
I went on all the games he plays and its clear to me that is a multis

Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:31 am
by cisco2001
[*]fuzzyhead
[*]omegahead



The accused are suspected of:
[list]
[*]Being Multis



Game number(s):
[list]
[*]Game 2705195

There are many more of their 1 vs 1 games.


Comments:

Wow, Fuzzy and Omega almost had me fooled. However, I got a little curious and took a closer look at their games. The first thing that jumped out at me was that in their 1 vs 1 games together, Fuzzy always wins. The other thing that caught my eye is that they have played a number of 3 player games and, of course, one of the two always wins.

In looking at one of their 1 vs 1 games ,Game 2705195, I found some very interesting strategy that I have copied and pasted below:

2008-06-23 11:26:18 - omegateam receives 12 armies for 37 territories
2008-06-23 11:26:45 - omegateam deployed 12 armies on India
2008-06-23 11:26:48 - omegateam attacked Nepal from India and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-23 11:27:02 - omegateam attacked Pakistan from India and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-23 11:28:26 - omegateam attacked Yukon from Nunavut and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-23 11:28:44 - omegateam attacked New England from Lower Canada and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-23 11:29:55 - omegateam attacked Argentina from Parana and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-23 11:31:07 - omegateam attacked Colombia from Panama and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-23 11:34:13 - omegateam gets a card

Note: Fuzzyhead, easily, won this game

Now, I don't claim to be a West Point strategist but I'm pretty sure that eliminating every neutral on the board is not going to win you a lot of games. Naturally they take back to back turns, are from the same country and even type exactly the same. I think that it's important to mention that they play a lot of freestyle games and their turns overlap. However, that's an easy feat for a multi-cheater. It's easy to open the same game from two different search engines, from the same computer and play simultaneously.

As I mentioned earlier, they have played some three player games that they always win. This is relevant because Omega's strategy, suddenly, improves dramatically in a game with a third, unsuspecting, player. The two work together to easily eliminate the "victim" that had the misfortune of joining their game.

In the past few weeks we've seen some pretty slick and sophisticated cheaters get busted. This guy is your average, run of the mill multi.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:02 am
by fuzzyhead
to all who read this
also look at the topic
"harassment of Leonidas1"

just because, I'm not going to say the same things on 2 topic
I'm doing that already in 1 topic :p

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:49 am
by Bruceswar
Maybe not mutlis per say, but surely someone is tossing games.

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:32 am
by cisco2001
There is something going on. Fuzzhead's pathetic explanations are pretty incriminating.

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:11 pm
by fuzzyhead
cisco2001 wrote:There is something going on. Fuzzhead's pathetic explanations are pretty incriminating.


Dude, you're crossing the line with "pathetic" and bit with "incriminating"
I've no problem that you don't believe me, but don't get rude

It's seems that you're determent to take everyone, that is accused of cheating, down.
No matter what they say
i mean you only seem to see one side of the story. And you don't even bother to look at the other side of the story

i know my story ain't so believeble, I wish I had a better story
But It's impossible that you can be for 100% sure that I'm making this up

and you take every explanation as a sign of guilt. and if I would said nothing, you would probably see it also as a sign of guilt.
well, how I'm I suppose to defend my self, If everything that I do is a sign of guilt

I don't know
but to be a little open-minded wouldn't hurt, I think

I hope that you understand what I'm trying to say here
I'm not mad or something,
It's just that when you're wrongfully accused, you would do everything to clear your name

ps: I hope you won't see this as a pafethic attemt to save my but, because then you still don't get it

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:33 pm
by Frop
Half a page and you've gave the exact same 'I'm not a crook' speech in every of the seven 'paragraphs'. The facts do have something to say though - you've won 10 out of 10 two player games against omegateam and he has almost exclusively attacked neutrals in all those games.

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:45 pm
by fuzzyhead
Frop wrote:Half a page and you've gave the exact same 'I'm not a crook' speech in every of the seven 'paragraphs'. The facts do have something to say though - you've won 10 out of 10 two player games against omegateam and he has almost exclusively attacked neutrals in all those games.


did you see: "harassment of Leonidas1"

oh, yeah I'm repeating my self, Im fully aware of that
wouldn't you do the same

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:16 pm
by cisco2001
Ok-

What's your defense? Also, does Omegateam know how to type? Maybe he/she can offer an explanation? Do you play from the same computer?

Also, you mentioned that Omega was a "caveman." After more than 12 games has he not figured out that attacking neutrals is not helping him? One would think that after a while he would get "it."

However, he does not have a problem with strategy in three player games. Why is that? Do you make his moves for him?

You're right. You AND Omega have the right to defend yourselves. This looks very much like cheating but I could be wrong.

I'm looking forward to your and Omega's explanation. I'm really looking forward to Omega's.

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:21 pm
by fuzzyhead
oeeeeh, that's going to be a problem
omega is on vacation for several weeks, I'll give him a call when he's back
(man, that's probably the worst explenation of all the one's I did, hahaha :D)

correction, it was actually 7 games after he got, that holding a lot of territories won't let you win the game
and they were' all played with great speed. i think we did 3-4 on 1 day
so yes, I don't think it's so unbelieveble that he was bad in these manny first games
after these games, I actually feld pitty and I started to gave him advice

it was in the game of global warming
Game 2710655
and age of realms that he almost got it,
(Game 2713586, here you have 1 country at the start so you need to attack neutral first)

and after that we played three-player games
Game 2726184
Game 2744212
Game 2732979
Game 2711291 ( we did even lost)
none of these games he avoid attacking me

I think that's the last explenation I'm going to give
i'm getting tired of it
i just don't understand why it's so hard to believe that were not the same player
and that we're not having a secret alliance
(because If omega keeps losing, It wouldn't be a great benifit for him)

BAH!!!

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:28 pm
by delboy01
I think it will be a simple matter to check IP's so if he is a multi it will be very easy to find out. The game play does look a bit suspitious as well.

I have to say if I had been in that game I would have raised it in here as well.

You can plead innocence as much as you like guys but the admins will look into it and will make a the decission.

Re: Fuzzyhead & Omegateam

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:43 am
by king achilles
Upon checking, omegateam and fuzzyhead have already been busted.