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RapeDemon Seriously offensive name
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:19 pm
by Soloman
RapeDemon
Grossly Offensive and inappropriate name
[*]Other: Came Across this guy in a recent game and the name is just overtly offensive, to Label yourself a rapist and to actually be proud of it is beyond word and just utterly reprehensible.
I have Family members whom were Traumatized by rapes in there lives and this name makes me sick to my stomach It may as well be a racist name as it is just as bad towards women and all rape victims
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:22 pm
by Curmudgeonx
Sol . . . you may be as big of an attentionwhore as Whump.
Um, can I say whore? Maybe someone in your family suffered and traumatized from whores . . .
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:25 pm
by Anarkistsdream
There are far more offensive names than that. How do you deal with people in the Real World if you can't deal with this?
I find your name offensive, because King Soloman pillaged and destroyed my ancestors homes...
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:34 pm
by Soloman
Anarkistsdream wrote:There are far more offensive names than that. How do you deal with people in the Real World if you can't deal with this?
I find your name offensive, because King Soloman pillaged and destroyed my ancestors homes...
I am named Soloman not Solomon and as far as I know there was no king Soloman just a king solomon. My name could and should be construed as a word play on Solo and man like Spider Man And Bat Man which are both presented as Spiderman and Batman. His name is very offensive you may as well just open the door to ChildMolester, NiggerLyncher or InjunKiller, as I have children and am both Black and Native American and would find those equally offensive. To attempt and trivialize and glorify such a heinous and life destroying crime as rape is deplorable and a true sign of a detestable character not only of the individual that had the audacity to use the name but for those who would defend it.
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:36 pm
by GabonX
Agreed.
Abolish freedom of speech! Where are the thought police when you need them?!
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:37 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Soloman wrote:Anarkistsdream wrote:There are far more offensive names than that. How do you deal with people in the Real World if you can't deal with this?
I find your name offensive, because King Soloman pillaged and destroyed my ancestors homes...
I am named Soloman not Solomon and as far as I know there was no king Soloman just a king solomon. My name could and should be construed as a word play on Solo and man like Spider Man And Bat Man which are both presented as Spiderman and Batman. His name is very offensive you may as well just open the door to ChildMolester, NiggerLyncher or InjunKiller, as I have children and am both Black and Native American and would find those equally offensive. To attempt and trivialize and glorify such a heinous and life destroying crime as rape is deplorable and a true sign of a detestable character not only of the individual that had the audacity to use the name but for those who would defend it.
It's an internet screenname...
Get a life.
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:38 pm
by GabonX
Also, about the whole solo man thing.. Doesn't really make sense on account of your record of teaming with your brother!
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:42 pm
by Anarkistsdream
GabonX wrote:Also, about the whole solo man thing.. Doesn't really make sense on account of your record of teaming with your brother!
hahahahaha
ZING!
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:50 pm
by Soloman
GabonX wrote:Agreed.
Abolish freedom of speech! Where are the thought police when you need them?!
If I recall you were 1 of the defenders of the name white Pride yet another racist name and again equally offensive so your credibility is already established with you continued stances for immoral and despicable names and actions. Not that I needed any further measure of your person as your posts say it all. So Gabon, Anarkist and the other guy please continue to troll and flame as you have proven how good you are at doing so...
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:55 pm
by GabonX
I didn't defend the name. I argued that if the name whitepride isn't allowed that blackpride, indianpride etc shouldn't be allowed either. There should be a standard that applies to all races because anything else is racism.
Also, I think that bringing up topics that have been dead for months qualifies as trolling in and of itself. Thats twice I've seen you do it!
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:25 pm
by Twill
Guys. Flaming here is not on, even if you don't agree with the OP.
I'll PM the user and see if they are interested in changing their name.
Twill
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:34 pm
by Yvgni
Lots of websites have perfectly reasonable restrictions on names you can pick. Just because we have people here with the emotional and intellectural maturity of 9-13 year olds is no reason to allow naming conventions which offend against the general public.
It would be nice think that the people who run this website can instruct the moderators to exercise their own judgment effectively in preventing certain names from being used. I would imagine also, that the name selector could fairly easily be set up to exclude certain letters or combinations within them.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:25 am
by Soloman
I would hope that more then asking him if he would like to change would be done to have this users name removed from data base. I am really disheartened that the name is not being taken seriously by admin and moderators. Like my previous examples it is a portrayal of a evil mindstate where people victimize others just like racism but in this case it would fall closer to sexism although rape can be perpetuated against men also, It just shows the depths of depravity thoughtlessness involved with this crime which has caused so much harm & Pain to so many victims since the dawn of humanity.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:03 am
by cisco2001
What does this sentence mean?
"I would hope that more then asking him if he would like would be done to have this users name removed from data base."
Seriously, I have absolutely no idea of what you are trying to say. The lack of punctuation is bad enough but the lack of context makes it completely incoherent.
All personal feelings aside for Soloman, I've been thinking about this thread and I have mixed emotions. I think that all of the points that have been brought up are very legitimate. If somebody is offended by a name then they are offended by it; period. What's offensive to me may not be offensive to anybody else and vice versa. Regardless, there are some names that fall into the special category of being publicly recognized as being offensive to everyone. e.g. the n word; which everyone agrees, falls into the blatant category.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of words that could be offensive to any individual based on many unique factors such as culture, religion, language, etc. I would never have noticed the name "Rapedemon" as being offensive because I would have taken it under the context of "rape and pillage" which is a phrase commonly used in war books and stories. However, I do see why Soloman thinks that it's offensive; especially if you look at it as describing female or male rape.
If you agree that any given name can be offensive to any given player on any given day, then you must accept that the possibility exists that very few names will be universally non-offensive. Realistically, there is no way to make everybody happy when it comes to issues such as this one. Unless we're all open to changing our names or avatars every time somebody complains.
Occasionally we must accept what GabonX pointed out in this thread; which is freedom of speech. After all there is a very big difference between the name "RapeDemon" and the name "childmolester."
It's just a matter of keeping everything in perspective and fighting the battles that make sense.
Have a nice day.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:24 am
by Soloman
cisco2001 wrote:What does this sentence mean?
"I would hope that more then asking him if he would like would be done to have this users name removed from data base."
Seriously, I have absolutely no idea of what you are trying to say. The lack of punctuation is bad enough but the lack of context makes it completely incoherent.
All personal feelings aside for Soloman, I've been thinking about this thread and I have mixed emotions. I think that all of the points that have been brought up are very legitimate. If somebody is offended by a name then they are offended by it; period. What's offensive to me may not be offensive to anybody else and vice versa. Regardless, there are some names that fall into the special category of being publicly recognized as being offensive to everyone. e.g. the n word; which everyone agrees, falls into the blatant category.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of words that could be offensive to any individual based on many unique factors such as culture, religion, language, etc. I would never have noticed the name "Rapedemon" as being offensive because I would have taken it under the context of "rape and pillage" which is a phrase commonly used in war books and stories. However, I do see why Soloman thinks that it's offensive; especially if you look at it as describing female or male rape.
If you agree that any given name can be offensive to any given player on any given day, then you must accept that the possibility exists that very few names will be universally non-offensive. Realistically, there is no way to make everybody happy when it comes to issues such as this one. Unless we're all open to changing our names or avatars every time somebody complains.
Occasionally we must accept what GabonX pointed out in this thread; which is freedom of speech. After all there is a very big difference between the name "RapeDemon" and the name "childmolester."
It's just a matter of keeping everything in perspective and fighting the battles that make sense.
Have a nice day.
I love your antagonistic way of entering things. Lets take this in perspective Rape and pillage is still talking about rape so if you generalize that point then you already are starting off with a bias that rape is a OK thing. Honestly when you wrote that or read these "war books" what do you think rape meant? TO rationalize on that basis is absurd and kills your credibility as does the forewords that lead into it as you only chose to post to make yet another personal attack against me. Now if I place all of that aside and break down your argument further I can give you another example which because of peoples feelings as you say is generally offensive and a no no.
The word Nigger is a term that originally was used for a niggardly person. For the uneducated that means a ignorant person. With that said and under your rationale the name Niggerkiller should no problem as it would mean ignorance killer right? Before you attempt to respond to what you know is a rhetorical question we all know the answer no it is offensive and it is common knowledge as to why. Again Casting aside the fact that I know your post was only taken as your own niggardly swipe at me I press that the blatant illogical ignorance of it from just a generalized stance.
Rape is an evil act against individuals designed to violate and still innocence. Furthermore unlike the word Nigger there has never been a different application for rape as you attempted to imply. Rape has was and will always be a crime that causes irreparable damage as it demoralizes and decimates people and there family's due to the perpetrators sadistic self gratification. Your attempts to justify it has shown me how truly low your character is more then I ever thought before...
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:39 am
by Anarkistsdream
Ahhh... You want to argue that point, eh SOLO-MAN who always plays with his brother???
Very well...
1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3. statutory rape.
4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
–verb (used with object)
6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.
–verb (used without object)
9. to commit rape.
Looks to me that out of 9 meanings, only 4 have to do with intercourse of any kind...
You lose.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:02 pm
by Sentinel XIV
Soloman wrote:GabonX wrote:Agreed.
Abolish freedom of speech! Where are the thought police when you need them?!
If I recall you were 1 of the defenders of the name white Pride yet another racist name and again equally offensive so your credibility is already established with you continued stances for immoral and despicable names and actions. Not that I needed any further measure of your person as your posts say it all. So Gabon, Anarkist and the other guy please continue to troll and flame as you have proven how good you are at doing so...
I was reading the whole thread until here. I just have a quick question:
How is White Pride any more racist than someone calling themselves Brown Pride, or Black Pride? Would you, Soloman, have raised such a ruckus over those two names? I highly doubt it.
To keep on topic, I don't believe the name to be that offensive. It's like saying I don't like Anarkistsdream's screen name because I disagree with the idea of anarchy.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:06 pm
by nmhunate
Soloman wrote:The word Nigger is a term that originally was used for a niggardly person. For the uneducated that means a ignorant person. With that said and under your rationale the name Niggerkiller should no problem as it would mean ignorance killer right? Before you attempt to respond to what you know is a rhetorical question we all know the answer no it is offensive and it is common knowledge as to why. Again Casting aside the fact that I know your post was only taken as your own niggardly swipe at me I press that the blatant illogical ignorance of it from just a generalized stance.
I think you're mistaken here Soloman... If I recall correctly the etymology of nigger comes from either the Spanish or Portuguese negro and before that the Latin Nigro all meaning black. So nigger stems from a word meaning black.
The word niggardly, however has a different etymology. Niggard comes from the Norwegian word nigle meaning stingy. Other than the fact that the two words sound alike, nigger and niggard have nothing in common. English is a truly interesting language with all of its homophones... Its sad and silly that people can be offended at niggardly when it has no racial meaning.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:19 pm
by jiminski
who you calling a homophone!?
and yes the analysis above is correct... (You could perhaps throw in Nigeria, or the Niger but not Niggardly)
but i think we know where Soli is coming from with his reasoning (even though the detail of his argument is not correct) he is dispelling the the arguments of camouflaged semantics.
the real point is: is the Username overtly offensive?
To be honest, not for me personally. I would have to look for a long time to find real, firsthand offense in it and not offense constructed from over sensitivity... As was said earlier we all have very different influences and crosses to bear!
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:25 pm
by nmhunate
True, I didn't address the OP... It is one of my pet peeves when people confuse niggardly with nigger.
I do not find the user name rapedemon to be offensive. There are many stories in the world that address that very idea. A succubus for example is a demon that rapes people. And even past that there are stories where the God Zeus rapes mortal women.
If one were to ban the user name rapedemon where do we stop? It is a slippery slope. Using my example couldn't we also ban the user name Zeus because of all the bad things that he did? Or even further... To me wicked's avatar looks like a succubus, I say we ban that picture because it promotes demon rape.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:26 pm
by nmhunate
double post
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:27 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
the vote of "No" has a nice lead.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:35 pm
by SFC_J11
If you don't like the name, then put him on the ignore list and move on.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:35 pm
by Frop
Not to mention 'to rape' in the context of playing games is something completely different as well. Yawn.
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Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:36 pm
by albertq
the fellow has a hobby, leave him alone soloman