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icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:21 am
by KLOBBER
Accused:


The accused are suspected of:
  • Being Multis


Game number(s):


Comments:
In game # 2505751, these two screen names almost always played within a couple of minutes of each other, which leads me to suspect that AwsParty is icedagger's newly-created multi account. This multi-account member made an effort to cover his tracks in the first round only, but after that, he played these two accounts consecutively, within very short amounts of time in each and every round. The game is still active, and so if he sees this post, he will most likely attempt to cover his tracks by spreading out his playing times in future rounds.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:04 am
by Joodoo
It's really hard to tell. Personally, I don't think icedagger is a noob, so he won't be cheating just to gain points (and he has a lot of points already). Also, I've done what icedagger has done several times. This is because sometimes when I go online I see the player playing and when they end their turn, I immediately begin my turn because I'm quite eager to play. And to me, one game doesn't seem to prove much.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:29 am
by KLOBBER
Joodoo wrote:It's really hard to tell. Personally, I don't think icedagger is a noob, so he won't be cheating just to gain points (and he has a lot of points already). Also, I've done what icedagger has done several times. This is because sometimes when I go online I see the player playing and when they end their turn, I immediately begin my turn because I'm quite eager to play. And to me, one game doesn't seem to prove much.


All good points, and it may well be that these are two players who aren't cheating; I just don't know yet. Still, I don't know what tests the multi-hunters use to catch cheaters, and they may be able to tell better than you and I.

I have valid reasons for my suspicions.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:32 am
by nagerous
Pretty sure icedagger isn't a cheat, he's probably on CC a lot as he is active in mafia and the forums. I think he'll be cleared to be fair.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:03 am
by KLOBBER
nagerous wrote:Pretty sure icedagger isn't a cheat, he's probably on CC a lot as he is active in mafia and the forums. I think he'll be cleared to be fair.


Oh, you're pretty sure, huh? You think he'll be cleared? That's great! Thank you for this very useful set of opinions.

I think the multi-hunters will be very grateful to you for helping in the investigation; after all, if you're "pretty sure," that should be enough to clear him.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:01 pm
by lancehoch
KLOBBER, I doubt whether you will take the time to push a button and read this, but I looked at the game in question and I highly doubt that these two are multis or in a secret alliance. Just because a ranked player decided to defend a new recruit in game chat, does not mean that they are one person.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:18 pm
by n00blet
roflmao KLOBBER you sound like maddox.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:13 pm
by KLOBBER
lancehoch wrote:KLOBBER, I doubt whether you will take the time to push a button and read this, but I looked at the game in question and I highly doubt that these two are multis or in a secret alliance. Just because a ranked player decided to defend a new recruit in game chat, does not mean that they are one person.


That's not my reason for reporting, and that's not what happened in the game either.

Mind your own business.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:37 pm
by lancehoch
KLOBBER wrote:That's not my reason for reporting, and that's not what happened in the game either.

Mind your own business.

If the game was not your reason for reporting, then why was it included in the report on the first post? Also, I make a habit of reading every thread in C&A so it kinda is my business. I like to know who to avoid, but if these people are not multis I would hope that their name gets cleared.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:56 pm
by KLOBBER
lancehoch wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:That's not my reason for reporting, and that's not what happened in the game either.

Mind your own business.

If the game was not your reason for reporting, then why was it included in the report on the first post? Also, I make a habit of reading every thread in C&A so it kinda is my business. I like to know who to avoid, but if these people are not multis I would hope that their name gets cleared.


You say that the game was not my reason for reporting. What gave you this bizarre idea? It's not what I said at all.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:19 pm
by lancehoch
KLOBBER wrote:
lancehoch wrote:If the game was not your reason for reporting, then why was it included in the report on the first post? Also, I make a habit of reading every thread in C&A so it kinda is my business. I like to know who to avoid, but if these people are not multis I would hope that their name gets cleared.


You say that the game was not my reason for reporting. What gave you this bizarre idea? It's not what I said at all.

No, I said that the game was your reason for reporting these accounts, but I also said that I see no evidence from this game as to why you would make the claim.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:30 am
by Fireside Poet
Suspects:
* icedagger
* AwsParty

Verdict: Cleared of multiple accounts.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:33 am
by KLOBBER
lancehoch wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:
lancehoch wrote:If the game was not your reason for reporting, then why was it included in the report on the first post? Also, I make a habit of reading every thread in C&A so it kinda is my business. I like to know who to avoid, but if these people are not multis I would hope that their name gets cleared.


You say that the game was not my reason for reporting. What gave you this bizarre idea? It's not what I said at all.

No, I said that the game was your reason for reporting these accounts, but I also said that I see no evidence from this game as to why you would make the claim.


Then neither of us said that the game wasn't my reason for reporting. Your bringing up the idea in that case is looney.

Dude, whatever. I saw suspicious behavior, so I reported it. Get over it.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:54 pm
by t-o-m
i played a game with this guy, never again.

he broke an allaince/truce :|

that was on my other account, ages ago.
and if someone does do an IP chekc on me now, please note that im babysitting for utafar - and for proof, who would play a crossword map!!! :lol:

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:07 pm
by icedagger
I'll admit I'm not the best at this game, but it would be pretty piss-poor strategy even for me to lose points to my multi ;)

As for the mystery of my quickly taken turns, I work on my computer a lot of the time, and get an email from CC whenever my turn comes up.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:42 pm
by icedagger
t-o-m wrote:i played a game with this guy, never again.

he broke an allaince/truce :|

that was on my other account, ages ago.
and if someone does do an IP chekc on me now, please note that im babysitting for utafar - and for proof, who would play a crossword map!!! :lol:


Me? What was the name of your old account, I didn't think I'd ever done that :S

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:02 pm
by KLOBBER
Dear Icedagger,

Sorry for my mistake. It just looked suspicious to me, so I did what the site recommends: report it.

You're cleared.

No hard feelings?

Klobber

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:31 pm
by nagerous
:roll: you cannot join game 2634391 because you are KLOBBER's foe]#

Klobber why the hell am I your foe, I've never played you or had anything to do with you....


I think what you do with your games is a gross misjustice of the rules and potentially should be banned..... Please admins comment on this.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:38 pm
by *manimal
KLOBBER wrote:Dear Icedagger,

Sorry for my mistake. It just looked suspicious to me, so I did what the site recommends: report it.

You're cleared.

No hard feelings?

Klobber

except he is going to foe you since you didnt deadbeat his game.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:47 pm
by nagerous
Klobber foeing anyone above a new recruit that joins his game or comments about him in the forum should be seen as gross abuse of the game.. Please andydufresne comment on this. I think what he does to gain a higher rank is screwed up and should be dealt with.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:58 pm
by *manimal
nagerous wrote:Klobber foeing anyone above a new recruit that joins his game or comments about him in the forum should be seen as gross abuse of the game.. Please andydufresne comment on this. I think what he does to gain a higher rank is screwed up and should be dealt with.

excatly.

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:00 am
by KLOBBER
nagerous wrote:you cannot join game 2634391 because you are KLOBBER's foe]#

Klobber why the hell am I your foe, I've never played you or had anything to do with you....


Dear nagerous,

Please accept my apologies. I can see that you're deeply upset, and I do feel appropriately concerned for you with your hurt feelings and all. Indeed, your plight is mildly pitiful. :-({|=

However, at this time, this website does not require any of its members to divulge any of their specific reasons for putting you on their various foes lists, your hurt feelings notwithstanding. Accordingly, you may find that none of the members who have placed you on their foes lists will be posting any of their various reasons for doing so in this thread or any other, at this time.

The list of possible reasons that members have for placing you on their foes lists is so great that thorough enumeration would be difficult. However, please review the following partial list of common possible reasons why members have decided to place you on their various foes lists:

- You're a "jerk"
- You're an unintelligent, unskilled player
- Your rank is too low
- Members suspect you of cheating with multi-accounts and/or having secret alliances

Although it may be that none of the above reasons apply to you, it may be helpful to you in the future to try to develop characteristics opposite to those in this list.

I'm concerned that you're feeling so frustrated and hurt because it is not possible for you to join any games with any of the various members who have found reasons to place you on their foes lists, at this time. However, there is still a light at the end of your foes list tunnel:

You may be able to join a game with a member who does not yet have you on his foes list, if any such member still exists.

If you're upset about your rank being lower than mine at this time, nagerous, please click on the following link for some friendly game-playing advice:

Click here for standard information about upping your rank.

I'm deeply concerned to hear that you are feeling so hurt, frustrated, and upset about your problems and difficulties with this website's foes list feature; good mental health is much more important than many people realize.

If it's any consolation, I do wish you "good luck" in your search to somehow find another member somewhere on the site who may still be willing to play with you. ](*,)

Until that time, keep your chin up, buckaroo!

Yours truly,

Klobber

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:18 am
by *manimal
KLOBBER wrote:
nagerous wrote::roll: you cannot join game 2634391 because you are KLOBBER's foe]#

Klobber why the hell am I your foe, I've never played you or had anything to do with you....


Dear nagerous,

I'm sorry, but this website does not require its members to give you their reasons for putting you on their foes lists, and so you will find none of the members who have you on their foes lists will be posting any specific reason in this thread or any other.

Even though you're frustrated because it is not possible for you to join games with any of the members who have you on their foes lists at this time, there is still a light at the end of the foes list tunnel: You can still play games with any member who may not yet have you on his foes list, if there is any such member left.

If you're unhappy with your low rank, nagerous, please click on the following link for some friendly game-playing advice:

Click here for standard information about upping your rank.

I wish you all the best in your search to find another member to play with.

Yours truly,

Klobber



Actually klobber you suck really the only reason you win at all is b/c of deadbeats if you had any skill you would be a man you have the skill level of a cook really

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:56 am
by t-o-m
icedagger wrote:
t-o-m wrote:i played a game with this guy, never again.

he broke an allaince/truce :|

that was on my other account, ages ago.
and if someone does do an IP chekc on me now, please note that im babysitting for utafar - and for proof, who would play a crossword map!!! :lol:


Me? What was the name of your old account, I didn't think I'd ever done that :S

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1617955

Re: icedagger and AwsParty: Multi Account [Cleared]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:03 am
by *manimal
t-o-m wrote:
icedagger wrote:
t-o-m wrote:i played a game with this guy, never again.

he broke an allaince/truce :|

that was on my other account, ages ago.
and if someone does do an IP chekc on me now, please note that im babysitting for utafar - and for proof, who would play a crossword map!!! :lol:


Me? What was the name of your old account, I didn't think I'd ever done that :S

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1617955

stupid multi ;)