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Conan the King and Breech [cleared but noted]

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:32 pm
by Lexitonia5
Accused:


The accused are suspected of:
  • Being Multis
  • Having a secret alliance


Game number(s):


Comments:
The above game was a 4-player game in BeNeLux. Its clear that these two players where clearly helping each other until the end of the game. What clued me in was, Breech (blue) missed 2 turns, didn't even acknowledge it or apologize which tells me he did it on purpose. On his third turn, he received two deployments. He deployed, took one from Badmoon (green) then fortified by putting 27 armies in one territory. This one territory was contiguous to the area occupied by Conan The King (red). It was worth 6 bonus armies (white territory). On his next turn, with 27 armies against a very thinly defended white territory occupied by Conan, Breech decides to let Conan keep his bonus and moves south and thins me out to almost nothing. Then red goes and eliminates me, big suprize. Now I wasn't surprised about being eliminated since I wasn't having a great game but I was suprised that with 27 armies, Breech didn't at least take Conan's bonus.

So I decided to check them out, see if they've played together alot. Exluding private games, they have played 37 games together. Not one double. Always separate. Litterally in every game where one of them actually won, the tactic was the same; work together to clean the board then one or the other claims the win, usually Conan.

I also noted that in chat in some of the games, other players asked about their obvious unwillingness to attack each other. Also, at least once, Conan referred to Breech as "Keith" telling me that they might know each other (duh). I don't have a problem with players playing hundreds of games together or knowing each other or living together or whatever, but they are playing like they're in doubles games but their not. Definitely looks like a secret alliance to me.

Re: Conan the King and Breech

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:09 pm
by cisco2001
You're right. The whole thing smells bad. I looked at those 37 games and they have won 19 of them with King taking the lion's share. Together, their combined win percentage in games together is 50%. They don't have anything close to that in their individual win percentage record. The numbers don't match up which sets off an alarm. At the very least, they are certainly working together.

I looked at their profiles and they joined one day apart. Coincidence? I don't think so. I'm going to take a close look at these two.

Cisco2001

Re: Conan the King and Breech

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:05 pm
by cisco2001
bump...need to take a look at this

Re: Conan the King and Breech

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:25 am
by king achilles
Conan the King and breech are cleared of being multis with each other. Coming from some of their games, they have called each other by their names, so obviously, they know each other in real life. If you can show some more games where they appear to have a secret diplomacy and/or made turns to benefit the other, then we will look into this further. For now, this is noted.