Conquer Club

Accused:

• King Conan
• hammertime65
• BrutalMaggot

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Having a secret alliance




Game number(s):

Game 2205471





Comments:
This is the first time I've ever accused anyone of this. I first started to notice something when King Conan posted very strange messages.

2008-04-28 16:13:47 - King Conan: Well red, I want peace with you but you have not moved from russia...perhaps a bit of incentive? I didn't give Moskova and expect nothing in return, sorry
2008-04-28 16:14:40 - King Conan: DOH, I'm not OJ in this game, lmfao!! ok, ok, putting the crack-pipe down now, lol
2008-04-28 16:14:59 - King Conan: The good new is this pot my cousin got me is GREAT stuff, lol
2008-04-28 16:15:28 - King Conan: ummm, OJ, don't let red walk on you like that, hahaha
2008-04-28 16:15:50 - King Conan: <---ignore the drunken barbarian
2008-04-28 16:17:31 - King Conan: Silver...round 17 I assume, very well then, but let me know if you change your mind up there

If you check the game chat, It was hammertime65 that stated they were giving me Moskova, and now King Conan is stating this. I get the impression he/she slipped up and posted from the wrong account. I then began checking the game log and found at times that all 3 players start their turns immediately after one another. I do realize BrutalMaggot and hammertime65 are paid members so I'm not sure if it would be possible for them to be a multi or not, but something seems really odd here. I may be way off and will totally apologize if so. Any comments on this from anyone in the community would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

They aren't apart of:
http://conquerclub.com/

Interfacer PH wrote:They aren't apart of:
http://conquerclub.com/

???
yes they are players

King Conan does not exist, presumably he's been banned areayd. I think he's the only one

I noticed alot of times the mods won't even post in the room they will just slap them with the old ban stick and move on.

Kemmler wrote:King Conan does not exist, presumably he's been banned areayd. I think he's the only one

Well, I'm playing with him right now and I also can see his profile so he must exist.

His profile has just reappread.

Hmmm, BM and hammertime do play a lot of games together and they seem to win a high percentage of games they are in together. Will await the admin views with interest.

delboy01 wrote:Hmmm, BM and hammertime do play a lot of games together and they seem to win a high percentage of games they are in together. Will await the admin views with interest.

Well, adobus (green) has also been in quite a few games with hammertime (orange), so that could be something or nothing.

Why bother no one cares, just play the game- they are both in a few games im in, I also have a few games im in that I know people are cheating and I play my strategy that way.
Doing an e ticket gets you not to far and posting in this forum gets you just as far.
I still think nothing will come of this.
But if you really think your good look at the games the 3 names on top play together but also look at all the new players who start a game then drop out leaving only 3 players or 4 in an 8 player game.
Also you are missing at least 1 or 2 names on your multi list (it's not mine) but I have played with them in the last few games im in right now.
Easy to spot the games if you look close.
Good luck

Its always worth reporting multi's!!!

The OP is a new player that is getting wiped out in the game in question and so is whining there and now here. Pathetic. Any alliances in the game have been annnounced by all players including the one he made, no secrets there at ALL. I also do not know any of the other players any better then I know the OP. I am in multiple games with many other players at the same time as we appear to have all been looking for games at the same time. Players such as Michigan Navy, Verbatim666, Wooddruff, etc. It's not a conspiracy, it's coincidence. I have informed the game you are in OP about your claims here so likely a lot of veteran players will now come here to coment no your sad attempt at revenge for a game loss...like I said, pathetic.

hammertime65 wrote:The OP is a new player that is getting wiped out in the game in question and so is whining there and now here. Pathetic. Any alliances in the game have been annnounced by all players including the one he made, no secrets there at ALL. I also do not know any of the other players any better then I know the OP. I am in multiple games with many other players at the same time as we appear to have all been looking for games at the same time. Players such as Michigan Navy, Verbatim666, Wooddruff, etc. It's not a conspiracy, it's coincidence. I have informed the game you are in OP about your claims here so likely a lot of veteran players will now come here to coment no your sad attempt at revenge for a game loss...like I said, pathetic.

I can take a loss. The issue is the strange comments King Conan made when he was talking like he was you. There have been some announced treaties, including one between you and I (which you have broken by the way). However, something still seems odd. If I'm wrong, I will definately apologize for tarnishing all of your reputations. I don't mean to do this maliciously.

I've always "enjoyed" how BrutalMaggot abuses the feedback system. He will leave a negative before the other person (when he knows one is incoming) and then respond to the feedback left on his profile as being "retaliatory".

What a tool.

There may be some validity to this thread...

I was in the same game and very early on, BrutalMaggot had control of Oceania and hammertime65 had control of the Far East (right next to each other).

At one point BrutalMaggot had I believe 7 armies (a good number at that point) immediately next to Taiwan (hammertime65's) with 1 army on it. BrutalMaggot did NOT attack the 1 army on Taiwan to keep hammertime65 from receiving his bonus for the Far East.

I called BrutalMaggot out on this in chat, and hammertime65 stuck up for BrutalMaggot's actions. (which I found to be rather odd) There were no alliances posted regarding them at this point. But after pointing this out they very quickly announced an alliance.

Some may figure that it was just an oversight on BrutalMaggot's part, however I believe someone ranked as a Captain doesn't make those elementary oversights very often.

They will try (and did in chat) that I was upset because I got attacked by BrutalMaggot...however that is not the case. At one point I had most of North America and had no problem being attacked, as it was the right move to make. However this was not even the same round as the proposed possible secret alliance tactics explained earlier.

I am still new here, and am not planning on leaving neg feedback, as I am unsure if it is warranted...however I did want to put some clarity to this issue.

Bones2484 wrote:I've always "enjoyed" how BrutalMaggot abuses the feedback system. He will leave a negative before the other person (when he knows one is incoming) and then respond to the feedback left on his profile as being "retaliatory".

What a tool.

The only tool here is the one Ahole who has to get off topic about something he knows nothing about. I am glad you enjoy my use of the feedback as your statement is more full of shit then you are. Keep to doing rimjobs at family reunions douchebag and stay off the forums.

chakon wrote:There may be some validity to this thread...

I was in the same game and very early on, BrutalMaggot had control of Oceania and hammertime65 had control of the Far East (right next to each other).

At one point BrutalMaggot had I believe 7 armies (a good number at that point) immediately next to Taiwan (hammertime65's) with 1 army on it. BrutalMaggot did NOT attack the 1 army on Taiwan to keep hammertime65 from receiving his bonus for the Far East.

I called BrutalMaggot out on this in chat, and hammertime65 stuck up for BrutalMaggot's actions. (which I found to be rather odd) There were no alliances posted regarding them at this point. But after pointing this out they very quickly announced an alliance.

Some may figure that it was just an oversight on BrutalMaggot's part, however I believe someone ranked as a Captain doesn't make those elementary oversights very often.

They will try (and did in chat) that I was upset because I got attacked by BrutalMaggot...however that is not the case. At one point I had most of North America and had no problem being attacked, as it was the right move to make. However this was not even the same round as the proposed possible secret alliance tactics explained earlier.

I am still new here, and am not planning on leaving neg feedback, as I am unsure if it is warranted...however I did want to put some clarity to this issue.

As you stated, you were the one I attacked as you had all of NA and were moving to expand unmolested. Hammer had a 4 bonus piece of land and was my buffer against 2 other players. You DID have the entire bonus in hand already when I struck. As a Captain I took the best strategic move open to me, crippling you.

You then started whining and crying about it in chat and Hammer said "sshhhh" He didn't "stick up" for me in any way. It was another player who pointed out the obvious to you and then he offered you an alliance. I then felt it prudent to offer my own aliiance before I was the victim of a gangbang.

If you are seeking true clarity re-read the chat. You and the OP and both just poor sports that cry when you lose. You're pathetic. Take the loss like a man and move on. It's a game for Christ's sake kid.

In Game 2154187, hammertime65 posted this:

hammertime65: I agree with red, the enemy of my enemy and all that, lol. Deal green
hammertime65: eerrr, yellow, I'm green doh

Yellow is King Conan. These two seem to mistake their colors often.

It's lookin like I might've jumped the gun on BrutalMaggot and thrown him under the bus with the other two. Either way, he has been kickin some tail in the game.

LycanWarrior wrote:In Game 2154187, hammertime65 posted this:

hammertime65: I agree with red, the enemy of my enemy and all that, lol. Deal green
hammertime65: eerrr, yellow, I'm green doh

Yellow is King Conan. These two seem to mistake their colors often.

Lycan,
Being new perhaps you do not consider that those of us with paid accounts can play an unlimited number of games on CC. Each game, unless you host them all, you are a different color.
I have misdropped, miscalculated and generally screwed up many a turn because I went from one game to another without switching colors in my head.
At times I get carried away and join 50 games in one day, while I still have 30-40 active. I then end up with not enough time to make moves and rush through them.
My typo does not mean I had a secret alliance or anything else other then a typo. Coming here and posting I am a cheat is an insult and immature to the extreme. The other lame comments are obviously from board trolls and nothing else needs to be said about those poor bastards.

LycanWarrior wrote:

delboy01 wrote:Hmmm, BM and hammertime do play a lot of games together and they seem to win a high percentage of games they are in together. Will await the admin views with interest.

Well, adobus (green) has also been in quite a few games with hammertime (orange), so that could be something or nothing.

I do not know them and am a bit sick of this whole scene at this point. It appears there are a lot of sore sports here on CC and to see it come to the forums and be slandered for 100's of people to see is more then a bit nuts for a game, lol. Perhaps you should play the game instead of trolling the boards and making ASSumptions Delboy. I can make my own assumption that of your 162 posts 159 of them are troll replys

I have nothing to fear and neither should you if you are innocent. The admins will check things out and will report back. It's the way things are done. Unfortunately far too many people get turned on by winning by any means than actually playing the game and improving.

I raised a valid point re. your games which I will now investigate further to confirm, or otherwise, what I found from a brief scan. I will come back with some stats. If my initial thoughts were incorrect then I will apologise.

As for trolling the forums, As a paid up member of the site I'm entitled to post my opinion. I was the first person to post for a reprieve for someone that had been busted on the basis that it was harshly dealt with. Based on my statement others looked at it and agreed. Both parties in that case got their premium back.

OK heres my stats backing up my statement.

Of the 11 completed games containing Brutalmaggot and Hammertime.

Brutalmaggot won 9 out of the 11.
Hammertime won 1 out of the 11.
Both lost just once.

Thats a win percentage of 91% for the two players. Believable if they were 3 players games but they were not.

3 player one game.
4 player two games
5 player three games
6 player 1 game
8 player 4 games ( 3 wins and 1 loss)

I say again, Hmmmm!!! And before you start complaining Hammertime. You re-raised the issue by questioning my original comment.

I think that now makes 160 out of 168 troll posts.

this is like the millionith complaint about brutal maggot, why hasnt this guy been banned yet?

jalen45 wrote:this is like the millionith complaint about brutal maggot, why hasnt this guy been banned yet?

Actually is the 2nd time in over 500 games in 6+ months that someone who was losing whined here. This was not even about me to start. The OP was talking about two other players until morons like yourself and the board troll brought me in to it.

Jalen45 is just a plain assmunch that cried when I butchered him like a little girl as he couldn't beat me even with his mult account running suicide missions. Jalen, you're pathetic. Get a job and move out of your mother's basement already before your 600# frame is unable to fit through the doorjam!