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Oggiss -- Cheater? [pending]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:03 am
by KLOBBER
These are suspected Multis:

Suspect users:

oggiss (the original account), NySportsRule, HG Shanks13, kmoney247, monomonkey, Sardonic, Avon Barksdale, tapout9, Pengwinnking, jterza1, Mika-ela, wessa5, JORD018, hillbilly800, that_kidd_j, dseed6

Game numbers:

http://conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1945456, http://conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1940792, http://conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1945458

Comments:

Bryguy makes a very good point:

“I joined 3 games with oggiss, cause i wanted to do some 8 player circus maximus, so i joined the first 3 that i found, and then when they started noted how almost all the people who joined, joined on the exact same day. Also, when the game starts, the new people play at roughly the same time. There is an exception for some of these who do not play at the same time, but i do still think that oggiss is a multi”

Here are statistics of just a few of the many brand-new accounts found to be playing multiple games with Oggiss:

Game 1:

Avon Barksdale - US, no games played, Joined March 9th, 08
Tapout9 - US, no games played, Joined March 9th, 08
Penguinking - US, no games played, Joined March (let me check, 9th, 08 )
Sardonic - US, no games played, joined March (take a wild guess, 9th, 08 )
Jterza - US, no games played, joined... (same as above)

Game 2:

NySportsRule, no games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
HG Shanks13: No games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
Kmoney247: No games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
monomonkey: No games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
Sardonic (already confirmed in game 1 – see above)

Game 3:

Mika-ela: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (Finland)
wessa5: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (UK)
JORD018: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (UK)
hillbilly800: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (United States)
that_kidd_j: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (United States)
dseed6: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (United States)

See how many people he plays with that are new and joined the same day?

KoE_Sirius wrote:

“I dont like Orgiss either,but I'm inclined to agree.He can't be the multi.”

...unless he just started cheating in March, and all those are indeed his multi accounts. I would not put it past him -- he stated to me that this very method could be used to cheat, not more than two weeks ago.

See Oggiss's exact quote below:

The quote in question is from a thread in which Oggiss is discussing and gathering research on a method of cheating whereby it is possible to log in to the site from multiple computer connections, and fake the IP addresses so that his multis appear to be from various countries. This is the same method that he is now accused of using!

Since he was already thinking about and researching this exact cheating method even before this accusation, I think that the accusation is most likely valid. (Again, his exact quote is below, in red).

Don't play with this cheat if you value your honestly earned points!

TheTrust wrote:Your saying all these accounts from different countries could be generated by him?


Less than two weeks ago, Oggiss was asking about the name of a program to download in order to generate accounts from different countries.

That gives him plenty of time to download the program, install it, and start implementing his fully researched cheating method on this site by March 9, which is the very date on which he is accused of starting to utilize this cheating method.

Here is Oggiss's exact quote: "What is the name of that program that allows you to use a different computer but you are at your own?.... If he uses it then he could use a whole damn library..."

Do you value the points that you gained by honest methods? If you do, then don't play any games with this cheater, "Oggiss." He will be banned from the site soon, but in the meantime, you should definitely avoid him.

KLOBBER

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:14 am
by greenoaks
the title of this thread is misleading.

it should say 'Klobber -- dickhead ?'

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:18 am
by KLOBBER
greenoaks wrote:the title of this thread is misleading.

it should say 'Klobber -- ******** ?'


Dude, calm down. I'm just posting suspected multis. There's no need for you to present yourself as such an angry jerk, totally out of the blue like that.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:04 pm
by greenoaks
KLOBBER wrote:
greenoaks wrote:the title of this thread is misleading.

it should say 'Klobber -- dickhead ?'


Dude, calm down. I'm just posting suspected multis. There's no need for you to present yourself as such an angry jerk, totally out of the blue like that.

it had already been posted. you know that because you contributed to the other thread. now you are just spamming.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:22 pm
by KLOBBER
I understand that it feels bad to be unable to control your anger. It doesn't mean you're a bad person, though. It just means that you're immature.

The last thread was hijacked by a lowlife, by the way, and so I simply decided to move to a better neighborhood.

I didn't begin the last Oggiss thread -- it looks like a lot of people suspect him of cheating. In fact, my above posts are brand-new, and have never been posted anywhere else. It would seem that your uncontrolled anger is clouding your ability to perceive and/or tell the truth.

I hear that anger management courses can sometimes make individuals like you feel better. You should look into it.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:03 pm
by bryguy
yea i just remember that before someone reported oggiss for something else... dont know what tho

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:52 pm
by KLOBBER
oggiss wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:I have played a few games with Oggiss, and his fishy actions there and in this forum made me also suspect that he is a cheater. I suggest you avoid playing games with him.


You gotta be kidding me, you have been in the exact same situation and been cleared and I have made an official apology and you still think I cheat based on the same reasons you were cleared.


The reason I was cleared is that I was not cheating.

That has nothing to do with the fact that a number of CC members besides me suspect that you are cheating.

Oggiss is being investigated on reasonable suspicion of cheating. Everyone should avoid playing games with him.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:15 pm
by oggiss
It should say - KLOBBER - the guy without a brain

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:17 pm
by TheTrust
Oggiss is being attacked based on a combo of a few people from different countries who joined at the same day. I dont know how he can be held accountable for that.

Maybe and I strongly suspect that these new players may be multis but I have a fundamental issue with dishing off this blame to a player from a completely different country, who joined at a much more previous date.

Again, please put up some specific proof that links OGGISS to these multi accusations and explain why these other accounts should not be tried seperately.

I am personally surprised oggiss isnt complaining about seperate sets of multi potential in his games. However maybe he just feels that he can win against them and wants to wait until they play to bring his concerns to the forum. I dont think Oggiss is flying oversees to take turns in his games.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:17 pm
by greenoaks
KLOBBER wrote:
oggiss wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:I have played a few games with Oggiss, and his fishy actions there and in this forum made me also suspect that he is a cheater. I suggest you avoid playing games with him.


You gotta be kidding me, you have been in the exact same situation and been cleared and I have made an official apology and you still think I cheat based on the same reasons you were cleared.


The reason I was cleared is that I was not cheating.

That has nothing to do with the fact that a number of CC members besides me suspect that you are cheating.

Oggiss is being investigated on reasonable suspicion of cheating. Everyone should avoid playing games with him.

you were not cleared because you were not cheating.

you were cleared because so far they have been unable to prove you are a cheat.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:17 pm
by oggiss
KLOBBER wrote:I understand that it feels bad to be unable to control your anger. It doesn't mean you're a bad person, though. It just means that you're immature.

The last thread was hijacked by a lowlife, by the way, and so I simply decided to move to a better neighborhood.

I didn't begin the last Oggiss thread -- it looks like a lot of people suspect him of cheating. In fact, my above posts are brand-new, and have never been posted anywhere else. It would seem that your uncontrolled anger is clouding your ability to perceive and/or tell the truth.

I hear that anger management courses can sometimes make individuals like you feel better. You should look into it.



You should go to a brain-activity course were they might be able to get your iq above squirrels.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:34 pm
by KLOBBER
greenoaks wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:
oggiss wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:I have played a few games with Oggiss, and his fishy actions there and in this forum made me also suspect that he is a cheater. I suggest you avoid playing games with him.


You gotta be kidding me, you have been in the exact same situation and been cleared and I have made an official apology and you still think I cheat based on the same reasons you were cleared.


The reason I was cleared is that I was not cheating.

That has nothing to do with the fact that a number of CC members besides me suspect that you are cheating.

Oggiss is being investigated on reasonable suspicion of cheating. Everyone should avoid playing games with him.

you were not cleared because you were not cheating.

you were cleared because so far they have been unable to prove you are a cheat.


That's brilliant. The same goes for everyone on the site, whether they have or have not been investigated yet -- except those proven guilty, which I have not. It also applies to you.

Maybe you'd be better suited for a witch-hunt, as your above-stated mentality matches witch-hunt "logic" cent percent.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:07 am
by KLOBBER
oggiss wrote:You should go to a brain-activity course were they might be able to get your iq above squirrels.


That's pretty much your own personal aspiration, pickle-smooch.