Conquer Club

Subject line: the joker and lostfanatic


These are suspected Secret Alliance

Suspect users: the joker and lostfanatic

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1856213

Comments: These two targeted myself and ClockworK the entire time. Even when they were both holding a bonus, neither of them tried to break the other's bonus. Both had plenty of armies to do so, and neither made a move at the other. These two are admitted friends that I don't think should be allowed to play singles games.


FiveThreeEight

I agree. This was blatent multi-accounting at its best.

If yo ulook at how the game played out.its obvious. We also asked them in game if this was happenening..and neither player said a word. Then green allowed red to win.

delete these multis.

Also...if you look at their game history...they seem to play several singles games together. Check out these games:

1856213
1169544
1028313
1646091
1013663
836944
832846
881918

Negative THIS GUY IS TRUMPETMAN328 AS WELL AS THE JOKER ON CC SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS DO NOT PLAY WITH THIS GUY/GIRL WHATEVER!!
lostfanatatic's response: ummm... actually the joker is my bf and trumpetman is a friend. we go to the same college and like to play games together. sorry we chose to invite you to our game ill remember not to next time. (832846 - And he likes to make up stories about them being friends, lovers...etc....pure bullshit!)


TOO Coincidental!!!

geese!! at least make an effort to make it look normal!!

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1856213 Your suspected game

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1155867 More accusations of them working together

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1646091 Secret alliance allegation in feedback

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1013663 More allegations

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=832846 Allegations in chat and feedback.

It seems like there are plenty of instances where people suspect these two of a secret alliance. Whether it is intended or not, it doesn't seem like they are able to treat each other in an unbiased manner.

the joker and lostfanatic are blocked from playing together on suspicion of secret alliance.

sully800 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1856213 Your suspected game

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1155867 More accusations of them working together

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1646091 Secret alliance allegation in feedback

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1013663 More allegations

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=832846 Allegations in chat and feedback.

It seems like there are plenty of instances where people suspect these two of a secret alliance. Whether it is intended or not, it doesn't seem like they are able to treat each other in an unbiased manner.

the joker and lostfanatic are blocked from playing together on suspicion of secret alliance.

Thank you, sully800.

First of all, I am not a multi account. Second of all, in the game referenced, I didn't attack the joker for a while because of his placement on the board. I did how ever, attack a rather large troop pile of his down in the gray territory while yellow was still alive. I allowed yellow to keep their bonus.
As for the game conversation between yellow and blue... I didn't even read it once because I was playing poker and studying. I would have spoken up for myself if I had seen what they were saying.

Yes, I do know the joker, and yes, we do like to play games together, but that is just because we are competitive. I absolutely do not like when he wins. I can not help that he usually beats me. I play the best game that I can no matter what. If that requires taking out another player before him, then I do it if I think it will help me.

I have to say, I am very disappointed in Conquer Club, and I will not be renewing my premium membership when the time comes. I feel it is completely unfair to ban us from playing eachother.

I know its just a game, but I've never been called a cheater before in my entire life. I find it very annoying especially since I know that I am not one. To be called out in a forum and publically punished is ridiculous.
Don't we even get a trial?? Doesn't anyone care what we have to say??

Furthermore, I will not be refering anymore of my friends to this site. I wouldn't want them to start playing games together and then be called cheaters.

- "Lostfanatatic"

I find this decision to be ridiculous and completely erroneous. I have played in 207 games with Lostfanatatic. This is because she is a friend here at school. We are extremely competitive in everything we do such as pool or poker. Neither one of us gets any enjoyment out of seeing the other win. There is no way we are multi-accounts. If we were multi accounts why wouldn't one of us have way more points than we do.

Now in 207 games played with any person there will be a few games here and there where things don't seem quite on the level because of starting placement and strategy. No one seems to acknowledge the fact that the games mentioned here are evenly split between the two of us. Also no one is taking into consideration the almost 200 games we have played together where there are no accusations of anything unfair.

I've played in almost 1200 games on here and too be honest I don't usually read the game chat but I have noticed that due to placement and strategies there are accusations of multi's and secret alliances in roughly 5-10% of the games on here. This is often times due more to the situation and sore losers.

Also once the suggestion of unfair play has been made, for instance in feedback, then people will tend to be paranoid and a lot of times the power of suggestion is more powerful than logic. Sore losers will not observe strategy and decide that things must not be on the level.

There is no way I can remember all the games I have played on here but in the accused game I know that my strategy didn't not allow me to attack lostfanatatic because we were on opposites sides of the philippines map and I didn't hold any naval points to attack her with, but I did take away one of her bonuses at least 3 times while we were all in the game. I also felt, as I usually do on Philippines that the best strategy is to come down from the north, where blue currently was, and I wass trying to get myself to that point. Yellow then weakened himself by moving into the north losing many troops against myself and blue. At this point green (Lostfanatatic) took yellow out for the cards. I then saw blue, from yellow's invasion of the north, was also weakened to the point where I could take him out and then use his cards against the much hobbled green, from the take out of yellow, to put myself in a winning position. I think what we have here is more a case of a couple of sore losers who are not particularly good players, look at there rank.

As just one of many games of evidence against any secret alliances I offer up game 1855152 that was played on the same night. Here on the Malta map I felt my best chances were to move north and pretty much killed myself against Lostfanatatic causing us both to lose the game. In this game I could have been accused of being in an alliance with yellow because I never attacked him as his strength grew because I felt my best strategy was to go north.

I play with the same strategy regardless of who I am playing with. I feel this investigation is founded around a relatively small bit of evidence based on the number of games we have played and on the testimony of relatively sore losers. Also it may have helped the decision if the investigation also involved playing a game with the two of us in it. I feel that these allegations are false and our side of the story should be taken in consideration. We should not have to sacrafice our strategies to kill each other just because we have previously been accused of multis or alliances. Part of the fun of this site is being able to play against friends and the truth be told I usually want to beat my friends more than anyone else for the sake of bragging rights.

the joker wrote:I find this decision to be ridiculous and completely erroneous. I have played in 207 games with Lostfanatatic. This is because she is a friend here at school. We are extremely competitive in everything we do such as pool or poker. Neither one of us gets any enjoyment out of seeing the other win. There is no way we are multi-accounts. If we were multi accounts why wouldn't one of us have way more points than we do.

Now in 207 games played with any person there will be a few games here and there where things don't seem quite on the level because of starting placement and strategy. No one seems to acknowledge the fact that the games mentioned here are evenly split between the two of us. Also no one is taking into consideration the almost 200 games we have played together where there are no accusations of anything unfair.

I've played in almost 1200 games on here and too be honest I don't usually read the game chat but I have noticed that due to placement and strategies there are accusations of multi's and secret alliances in roughly 5-10% of the games on here. This is often times due more to the situation and sore losers.

Also once the suggestion of unfair play has been made, for instance in feedback, then people will tend to be paranoid and a lot of times the power of suggestion is more powerful than logic. Sore losers will not observe strategy and decide that things must not be on the level.

There is no way I can remember all the games I have played on here but in the accused game I know that my strategy didn't not allow me to attack lostfanatatic because we were on opposites sides of the philippines map and I didn't hold any naval points to attack her with, but I did take away one of her bonuses at least 3 times while we were all in the game. I also felt, as I usually do on Philippines that the best strategy is to come down from the north, where blue currently was, and I wass trying to get myself to that point. Yellow then weakened himself by moving into the north losing many troops against myself and blue. At this point green (Lostfanatatic) took yellow out for the cards. I then saw blue, from yellow's invasion of the north, was also weakened to the point where I could take him out and then use his cards against the much hobbled green, from the take out of yellow, to put myself in a winning position. I think what we have here is more a case of a couple of sore losers who are not particularly good players, look at there rank.

As just one of many games of evidence against any secret alliances I offer up game 1855152 that was played on the same night. Here on the Malta map I felt my best chances were to move north and pretty much killed myself against Lostfanatatic causing us both to lose the game. In this game I could have been accused of being in an alliance with yellow because I never attacked him as his strength grew because I felt my best strategy was to go north.

I play with the same strategy regardless of who I am playing with. I feel this investigation is founded around a relatively small bit of evidence based on the number of games we have played and on the testimony of relatively sore losers. Also it may have helped the decision if the investigation also involved playing a game with the two of us in it. I feel that these allegations are false and our side of the story should be taken in consideration. We should not have to sacrafice our strategies to kill each other just because we have previously been accused of multis or alliances. Part of the fun of this site is being able to play against friends and the truth be told I usually want to beat my friends more than anyone else for the sake of bragging rights.

Listen. I've lost plenty of games. Too many to be considered a sore loser. And don't play the rank card. I've had my rank higher than what yours is right now. Everyone has their bad streaks.

I have played two games with you, and both times the same thing happened. Therefore, I am justified in making this claim. What sully800 does with it is his choice.

well..i find it funny that you guys claimed to be boyfriend and girlfriend in response to one of your negative feedbacks.......and now you are just "competitive friends"

you are a joker, and she definitely is lost.

Clock